Is Wilson going to kill the retailers ?

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Mr float
Mr float
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4 Dec 2010 1:27pm
bjw said...

Cheaper kites cannot kill the industry.
Windsurfing killed itself when it got expensive as hell.


and there wasn't the internet
stabber
stabber
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4 Dec 2010 2:34pm
Get some cheap kites on Alibaba
jarvo
jarvo
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5 Dec 2010 9:11am
As I said I was just wondering ,I know if I were a retailer I prob wouldnt be real stoked about it , but on the other hand I dont reckon their prices can stay anywhere near that bracket for long
bjw
bjw
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bjw bjw
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5 Dec 2010 10:53am
The sport is too expensive that is why a "Grom" in Kiting is someone under 30.
stabber
stabber
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5 Dec 2010 12:33pm
bjw said...

The sport is too expensive that is why a "Grom" in Kiting is someone under 30.


12 is under 30... so is 6....

I think you meant....

The sport is too expensive that is why a "Grom" in Kiting is someone over 30.
dirtyharry
dirtyharry
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5 Dec 2010 10:48am
stabber said...

12 is under 30... so is 6....



And so is 29.5... which I think was his point. Most other sports would consider something way less (like <16) a grom.


chadster
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5 Dec 2010 1:49pm
Well I am not complaining, I just bought a 6 and a 8m and one bar for $1900,
sweet deal!!!!!
Poida
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5 Dec 2010 5:37pm
BWS is a retailer, so is that the problem or is it because it's an online sale?
most kite retailers use online sales, and any other method to do business
You get a good kite at a good price, with backup via dhl couriers.
theres two bar types and 4 kites to choose so spares shouldnt be a biggy
japie
japie
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5 Dec 2010 9:40pm
How can anyone claim that it is an expensive sport to get into?

Try getting into golf for under $2k a year, or buy a motor bike. A decent pushy is going to cost you at leat $1k and then you have club fees etc..

Anyway, if you have your head screwed on you can buy second hand from the pratts who have too much cash and feel the need to display the latest model kite to take the edge off their lack of ability.
chard
chard
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6 Dec 2010 8:15am
people that call others kooks have distorted memorys of their early days of kiteing ,, yes i remember the first time i flew a star was born ,,,i love myself forever and those lesser than me who havent payed the ultimate price$$$$$ for stardom can only be deemed kooks ,,, get over yourself ,,, its a great sport with 2 distinct disciplines kiteboarding and kitesurfing and who cares which one your into just enjoy ,, most of us are very happy friendly people (our sport gives us that) and good on you ben willson and griffinkites (just love my argo) ,,, im Australian AND VERY PROUD OF It ,,,headline AUSTRALIAN RETAILERS WORRY ABOUT AUSY BRANDS ENTERING MARKET sad ,,
chadster
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6 Dec 2010 3:36pm
Just saw that Harvey Norman is about launch an online business and so Meyer department stores to remain competitive, they plan on delivery direct so compete with online store like catch of the day. Seems like BWS is in good company with their strategy.
toddws
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6 Dec 2010 10:09pm
chadster said...

Just saw that Harvey Norman is about launch an online business and so Meyer department stores to remain competitive, they plan on delivery direct so compete with online store like catch of the day. Seems like BWS is in good company with their strategy.


Ingrish!! do they speak ingrish in What mutherfunker!
AndreC
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7 Dec 2010 12:05am
shutup
AKSonline
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7 Dec 2010 12:41pm
AndreC said...

shutup


Don't get so upset Andre, I think you'll find Todds is quoting a line from Pulp Fiction.

Life - No one gets out alive!

Cheers,

DM
professor
professor
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7 Dec 2010 4:25pm
I don't think he would or is going to kill the Retailers. But if he did. Going out on a limb to say ("It would help "sails").

Though he would need some Ninja Skills, that I don't think he has!

Surely he would have to have roof jumping skills nunchuck skill and lots of other skill's that are part of being a arseassin.
Dawso
Dawso
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31 Jan 2011 9:25pm
bjw said...

Cheaper kites cannot kill the industry.
Windsurfing killed itself when it got expensive as hell.


Windsurfing? ........ Is that that ancient sport my grandfather told me about?
the gibbo
the gibbo
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31 Jan 2011 6:35pm
very expensive
very dangerous
very well do sumfink else please, me local is to packed out with cashed up nutters
dafunk
dafunk
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31 Jan 2011 9:10pm
i think all retailers in what ever industry should be worried .
shopping online has never been easier ,
its up to the government to help aussie retailers be more competitive in the globel market .
they should reduce the taxes that force retailers prices up .
good on bw for cutting out the middle man [aka the tax man]
ashton
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31 Jan 2011 9:55pm
I and many other price conscious existing kiters (who aren't a retailer) would welcome a price war on kites. The cost of living in Australia is expensive and no matter what you're purchasing...reality is alot of us like to shop around for the best deal... Or... at least a fair deal, that hasn't got an over inflated margin attached to it. Unless there's no other choice. If only we knew the true cost of goods.
If 'Person A' buys a Video Camera from Harvey Norman for $1200 ... and 'Person B' buys the exact same one on line for $750. Who's the more intelligent person? derrr.
I'm sure Jerry Harvey's a cool dude... but I don't want to support his lifestyle with an extra 20 - 60% if I don't have too.

Sorry I don't care... I'm over paying too much for things and where possible I'll buy something I believe is more reasonably priced or has more value for money. In Perth it'll cost you about an average of 32 bucks for a steak. That works out to be $106 per kg for your 300g piece of beef with ur 40cents of chips n salad.... good venue, sht venue, entertainment or not... then there's your beer for 10 bucks.
Who's sick of paying 10 bucks for a beer in Perth? Are we paying too much and getting ripped off? Are we paying for someone elses fortune?
Bigwavedave
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1 Feb 2011 12:02am
ashton said...

I and many other price conscious existing kiters (who aren't a retailer) would welcome a price war on kites. The cost of living in Australia is expensive and no matter what you're purchasing...reality is alot of us like to shop around for the best deal... Or... at least a fair deal, that hasn't got an over inflated margin attached to it. Unless there's no other choice. If only we knew the true cost of goods.
If 'Person A' buys a Video Camera from Harvey Norman for $1200 ... and 'Person B' buys the exact same one on line for $750. Who's the more intelligent person? derrr.
I'm sure Jerry Harvey's a cool dude... but I don't want to support his lifestyle with an extra 60% if I don't have too.

Sorry I don't care... I'm over paying too much for things and where possible I'll buy something I believe is more reasonably priced or has more value for money. In Perth it'll cost you about an average of 32 bucks for a steak. That works out to be $106 per kg for your 300g piece of beef with ur 40cents of chips n salad.... good venue, sht venue, entertainment or not... then there's your beer for 10 bucks.
Who's sick of paying 10 bucks for a beer in Perth? Are we paying too much and getting ripped off? Are we paying for someone elses fortune?



you are keeping people employed.

It's made round to go round.

Keeps you in a job too.
TenBerri
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31 Jan 2011 10:34pm
Killing the retailers would definitely be a negative turn in the kiteboarding industry. How would anyone demo new gear? I'm definitely a 'try before I buy kitesurfer', and I never trust sales hype when it comes to kites.

Yea short term everyone could save a few bucks cutting out retailers, but how many Kitesurfing shops are schools as well. We would be killing the safest way a newbie can get into this sport. This means the sport will stop growing, and kite brands cut back on the development of new kites

As well as after sales service, and warranties?????? Who wants to be emailing some company in another country, who doesn't care, with your complaint. At least with retailers you can go and talk to them in person.

BWS may have a small short-term impact in Australia with cheap online sales, but I reckon he's gonna need retailers, to have a long-term impact as well as a chunk of the international market.
Pugwash
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31 Jan 2011 10:58pm
bjw said...

Cheaper kites cannot kill the industry.
Windsurfing killed itself when it got expensive as hell.


Windsurfing is not dead It's just sleeping
ashton
ashton
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31 Jan 2011 11:24pm
BigwaveDave


you are keeping people employed.

It's made round to go round.

Keeps you in a job too.


Response....


I know almost everybodies employed in sales.

Where possible, I'm not going pay 2k for a kite.
bjw
bjw
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1 Feb 2011 8:01am
If you buy at a retailer the end dollar goes in a Peter Cabrhina's Rich fat American pocket.

If you buy a BWS it makes Ben Wilson get rich and fat.

The difference is he's Australian. He'll spend his money on making the rest of us rich and fat too.
chadster
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1 Feb 2011 8:17am
So are you guys saying that BWS should put the price up so that the retailer can make a hit???
NSW, 4382 posts
1 Feb 2011 10:06am
Have a think about the bigger picture.


Kites are cheap, they have not gone up in price since they came out, there are too many models and brands and the market is not growing that much people are wisin up, kitin is not for the average joe, they prefer to shop.
bjw
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1 Feb 2011 9:37am
Are you hinting that Kitepower is the Woolworths of kite shops?

NSW, 4382 posts
1 Feb 2011 10:57am
bjw said...

Are you hinting that Kitepower is the Woolworths of kite shops?




Are you actually a complete idiot?
sunsetsea
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1 Feb 2011 8:13am
Kitepower Australia said...

Have a think about the bigger picture.


Kites are cheap, they have not gone up in price since they came out, there are too many models and brands and the market is not growing that much people are wisin up, kitin is not for the average joe, they prefer to shop.


I was in the process of making "The Beast File: Kitepower (Hungry Beast)" movie

kitepower is taking over aus and we need to stop it... NOW
NSW, 4382 posts
1 Feb 2011 11:42am
^^^ There's another one!!
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