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manlykiter
manlykiter
NSW
66 posts
NSW, 66 posts
5 Feb 2015 8:48pm
Has anyone tried one of these new light wind beast's?
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
5 Feb 2015 9:19pm
... wait for it...
Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
1100 posts
NSW, 1100 posts
5 Feb 2015 11:11pm
...any second now...
Subculture
Subculture
443 posts
443 posts
5 Feb 2015 8:42pm
… drum roll...
manlykiter
manlykiter
NSW
66 posts
NSW, 66 posts
6 Feb 2015 12:45am
<insert Switch kite bashing here>

manlykiter
manlykiter
NSW
66 posts
NSW, 66 posts
6 Feb 2015 12:47am
Seriously though, I'd really like to hear from anyone who has flown one!
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
5 Feb 2015 10:21pm
I doubt you will get to hear/see anything here mate, try some of the other kite forums.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
5 Feb 2015 11:14pm
Delete
loftsofwind
loftsofwind
QLD
226 posts
QLD, 226 posts
6 Feb 2015 8:21am
does this kite use helium air?
skywalker3d
skywalker3d
VIC
228 posts
VIC, 228 posts
6 Feb 2015 9:22am
They look good but after riding my mates Nitro i don't think i would bother.
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
6 Feb 2015 12:49pm
this thread needs a shop guy lamenting the rise of the direct sales method, and the demise of the local kite store at the expense of the whole community, plus a plug for the superior brand that only they carry. Only then can this thread be locked.
laurie
laurie
QLD
3902 posts
QLD, 3902 posts
6 Feb 2015 12:15pm



tightlines said..
I doubt you will get to hear/see anything here mate, try some of the other kite forums.




Indeed.

Switch chose "cash for comment" as a marketting model, and, unfortunately, they've worn out their welcome here with too much spam from over zealous team riders chasing their commision.

Sorry.

They have their own forum, which is probably your best bet.




Subculture
Subculture
443 posts
443 posts
6 Feb 2015 10:18am
bennie said..
this thread needs a shop guy lamenting the rise of the direct sales method, and the demise of the local kite store at the expense of the whole community, plus a plug for the superior brand that only they carry. Only then can this thread be locked.


Precisely! Or removed without trace..

tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
6 Feb 2015 11:36am
laurie said...



tightlines said..
I doubt you will get to hear/see anything here mate, try some of the other kite forums.




Indeed.

Switch chose "cash for comment" as a marketting model, and, unfortunately, they've worn out their welcome here with too much spam from over zealous team riders chasing their commision.

Sorry.

They have their own forum, which is probably your best bet.







Yep I still love my S kites but disagree with their reward for comments move so can understand where you are coming from for sure Laurie.

Also it has been mentioned before that some Switch riders have multiple logins and start a lot of threads, for the record I only have the one log in and don't think I have started a thread about Switch (Or if I ever have it would have been years ago before they started their team rider rewards program).

I have simply answered questions and given advice where asked and occasionally corrected or questioned someone when they have given false info to discredit Switch.




tomme
tomme
VIC
475 posts
VIC, 475 posts
6 Feb 2015 3:25pm
Top thread, would read again.
NSW, 4382 posts
7 Feb 2015 5:27pm
bennie said..
this thread needs a shop guy lamenting the rise of the direct sales method, and the demise of the local kite store at the expense of the whole community, plus a plug for the superior brand that only they carry. Only then can this thread be locked.



god damn direct sales, gonna have to sell the Porsche now. we are now serving by appointment only, if you want the lights on in the shop its an extra $5 per min.
nigelw2
nigelw2
VIC
237 posts
VIC, 237 posts
7 Feb 2015 6:34pm
Kitepower Australia said...
bennie said..
this thread needs a shop guy lamenting the rise of the direct sales method, and the demise of the local kite store at the expense of the whole community, plus a plug for the superior brand that only they carry. Only then can this thread be locked.



god damn direct sales, gonna have to sell the Porsche now. we are now serving by appointment only, if you want the lights on in the shop its an extra $5 per min.


As long as theres no extra charge for your A grade Internet / postal service
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
8 Feb 2015 1:58pm
Kitepower Australia said..

bennie said..
this thread needs a shop guy lamenting the rise of the direct sales method, and the demise of the local kite store at the expense of the whole community, plus a plug for the superior brand that only they carry. Only then can this thread be locked.




god damn direct sales, gonna have to sell the Porsche now. we are now serving by appointment only, if you want the lights on in the shop its an extra $5 per min.


You should try being nicer to walk-ins then...
NSW, 4382 posts
8 Feb 2015 3:51pm
Kamikuza said..

Kitepower Australia said..


bennie said..
this thread needs a shop guy lamenting the rise of the direct sales method, and the demise of the local kite store at the expense of the whole community, plus a plug for the superior brand that only they carry. Only then can this thread be locked.





god damn direct sales, gonna have to sell the Porsche now. we are now serving by appointment only, if you want the lights on in the shop its an extra $5 per min.



You should try being nicer to walk-ins then...


"whoosh..."
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
8 Feb 2015 9:07pm
Oh sorry, over your head was it?

If you're nicer to walk-in customers, you'll get more repeat business. See? Easy. Give it a try, then you might make some money and won't need the sarcastic butt-hurt comments about people's perceptions about your business.
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
8 Feb 2015 11:16pm
^^^ Dude, get over your beef with Steve. He runs a quality business that gives solid service.
NSW, 4382 posts
9 Feb 2015 11:07am
Kamikuza said..
Oh sorry, over your head was it?

If you're nicer to walk-in customers, you'll get more repeat business. See? Easy. Give it a try, then you might make some money and won't need the sarcastic butt-hurt comments about people's perceptions about your business.



*double whoosh*

We love serving customers, it's the only reason why we are in business. However if we do need some advice, it definitely wont be from some grumpy bloke behind a computer screen somewhere in Japan...


edit: apologies to thread starter, completely derailed now thanks to lack of humour/sarcasm detection.
manlykiter
manlykiter
NSW
66 posts
NSW, 66 posts
9 Feb 2015 1:41pm
No dramas guys, didn't realise what a controversial subject this was - my bad.

If we cant keep this somewhat on topic, feel free to close/lock this thread admin
norcom
norcom
61 posts
61 posts
9 Feb 2015 3:33pm
I would also like to hear some real reviews of the kite. Always on the lookout to add to my light wind quiver: 14m Rally, 16m Switchblade, 17m TS, 18m Zero.

I'm guessing this kite would have a better lower end than the TS but I doubt it would have a better low end than the Zero. The real question is how low can you go upwind with it or just if it's much better than the Zero?

It's quite cheap for a new kite that size. But I'm still on the limb if I want the Edge 19, the Chrono 18 or maybe even Flysurfer 21. Though I'm not keen on the Flysurfer as I believe the Chrono 18 has better low end?




Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
9 Feb 2015 11:48pm
Kitepower Australia said..



Kamikuza said..
Oh sorry, over your head was it?

If you're nicer to walk-in customers, you'll get more repeat business. See? Easy. Give it a try, then you might make some money and won't need the sarcastic butt-hurt comments about people's perceptions about your business.






*double whoosh*

We love serving customers, it's the only reason why we are in business. However if we do need some advice, it definitely wont be from some grumpy bloke behind a computer screen somewhere in Japan...


edit: apologies to thread starter, completely derailed now thanks to lack of humour/sarcasm detection.




Hell of a walk from here... I said "walk-ins" which means actual people who went into your physical store. Literally. The only whooshing here is business going past your store.

S'alright, the competition enjoyed their custom.
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
9 Feb 2015 11:54pm
norcom said..
I would also like to hear some real reviews of the kite. Always on the lookout to add to my light wind quiver: 14m Rally, 16m Switchblade, 17m TS, 18m Zero.

I'm guessing this kite would have a better lower end than the TS but I doubt it would have a better low end than the Zero. The real question is how low can you go upwind with it or just if it's much better than the Zero?

It's quite cheap for a new kite that size. But I'm still on the limb if I want the Edge 19, the Chrono 18 or maybe even Flysurfer 21. Though I'm not keen on the Flysurfer as I believe the Chrono 18 has better low end?


The Chrono will have the better low end. its a race kite so its a little more twitchy than the other big foil... good clean wind and solid kite skills are what you want to drive that. Check kiteforum for details from people who've ridden the Chrono and th Speed.

A lot of overlap in your quiver there, no?
norcom
norcom
61 posts
61 posts
9 Feb 2015 11:25pm
Kamikuza said..

norcom said..
I would also like to hear some real reviews of the kite. Always on the lookout to add to my light wind quiver: 14m Rally, 16m Switchblade, 17m TS, 18m Zero.

I'm guessing this kite would have a better lower end than the TS but I doubt it would have a better low end than the Zero. The real question is how low can you go upwind with it or just if it's much better than the Zero?

It's quite cheap for a new kite that size. But I'm still on the limb if I want the Edge 19, the Chrono 18 or maybe even Flysurfer 21. Though I'm not keen on the Flysurfer as I believe the Chrono 18 has better low end?



The Chrono will have the better low end. its a race kite so its a little more twitchy than the other big foil... good clean wind and solid kite skills are what you want to drive that. Check kiteforum for details from people who've ridden the Chrono and th Speed.

A lot of overlap in your quiver there, no?


Yeah that's what I read about the Chrono but unless I put some hours on a kite over a few different conditions I really can never tell how much I'll like it or hate it. I've had the most awesome and the worst sessions on each one of my kites. Really takes time and different conditions to learn all the ins and outs of these things; at least to me.

There's overlap but the biggest problem is deciding what to bring to the beach as everything wont fit in the jeep. :D The 16m Switchblade isn't being used as often right now but I'm keeping it around in case I trash one of the other kites. I usually bring 9/11/14/17/18 with me. The 18 is only used if it's blowing 12mph and under. Don't ask how many boards I have LOL those definitely don't all fit in the jeep. :(
NSW, 4382 posts
10 Feb 2015 9:18am
Kamikuza said..

Kitepower Australia said..




Kamikuza said..
Oh sorry, over your head was it?

If you're nicer to walk-in customers, you'll get more repeat business. See? Easy. Give it a try, then you might make some money and won't need the sarcastic butt-hurt comments about people's perceptions about your business.







*double whoosh*

We love serving customers, it's the only reason why we are in business. However if we do need some advice, it definitely wont be from some grumpy bloke behind a computer screen somewhere in Japan...


edit: apologies to thread starter, completely derailed now thanks to lack of humour/sarcasm detection.





Hell of a walk from here... I said "walk-ins" which means actual people who went into your physical store. Literally. The only whooshing here is business going past your store.

S'alright, the competition enjoyed their custom.


...wow

you need a hug
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
10 Feb 2015 2:55pm
norcom said..


Kamikuza said..



norcom said..
I would also like to hear some real reviews of the kite. Always on the lookout to add to my light wind quiver: 14m Rally, 16m Switchblade, 17m TS, 18m Zero.

I'm guessing this kite would have a better lower end than the TS but I doubt it would have a better low end than the Zero. The real question is how low can you go upwind with it or just if it's much better than the Zero?

It's quite cheap for a new kite that size. But I'm still on the limb if I want the Edge 19, the Chrono 18 or maybe even Flysurfer 21. Though I'm not keen on the Flysurfer as I believe the Chrono 18 has better low end?





The Chrono will have the better low end. its a race kite so its a little more twitchy than the other big foil... good clean wind and solid kite skills are what you want to drive that. Check kiteforum for details from people who've ridden the Chrono and th Speed.

A lot of overlap in your quiver there, no?




Yeah that's what I read about the Chrono but unless I put some hours on a kite over a few different conditions I really can never tell how much I'll like it or hate it. I've had the most awesome and the worst sessions on each one of my kites. Really takes time and different conditions to learn all the ins and outs of these things; at least to me.

There's overlap but the biggest problem is deciding what to bring to the beach as everything wont fit in the jeep. :D The 16m Switchblade isn't being used as often right now but I'm keeping it around in case I trash one of the other kites. I usually bring 9/11/14/17/18 with me. The 18 is only used if it's blowing 12mph and under. Don't ask how many boards I have LOL those definitely don't all fit in the jeep. :(



Ain't that the truth! I tend to avoid my foils in winter with the NW gusty wind, but they rule smooth summer wind. Last time we had decent wind, it was 12 to 20 knots with gusts to 35...! Not fun on a foil...

If youve had foils before, you'll adapt quickly i think - ask plummet - but even seasoned foil riders have said they can be a bigger PITA than the lesser performing FSers.

I've got 16/13/10/7 and 21/15/12 in the car, and have my birds stashed at the lake... I'll take 3 with me if I travel though, I chose this car based on how much gear abd people I can get in :D
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
10 Feb 2015 2:57pm
Kitepower Australia said..

Kamikuza said..


Kitepower Australia said..





Kamikuza said..
Oh sorry, over your head was it?

If you're nicer to walk-in customers, you'll get more repeat business. See? Easy. Give it a try, then you might make some money and won't need the sarcastic butt-hurt comments about people's perceptions about your business.








*double whoosh*

We love serving customers, it's the only reason why we are in business. However if we do need some advice, it definitely wont be from some grumpy bloke behind a computer screen somewhere in Japan...


edit: apologies to thread starter, completely derailed now thanks to lack of humour/sarcasm detection.






Hell of a walk from here... I said "walk-ins" which means actual people who went into your physical store. Literally. The only whooshing here is business going past your store.

S'alright, the competition enjoyed their custom.



...wow

you need a hug


If you're offering, I'll pass.
NSW, 4382 posts
10 Feb 2015 4:32pm
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