18ft Skiff second hand sails

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nick0
nick0
NSW
510 posts
NSW, 510 posts
11 Jul 2010 1:46pm
y not just get a formula windsurfer.. i sail on a 15ft skiff and a 16ft hobie cat . for srry to break it to every one but formula windsurfing just owns harder
mofo
mofo
QLD
91 posts
QLD, 91 posts
11 Jul 2010 9:00pm
nick0 said...

y not just get a formula windsurfer.. i sail on a 15ft skiff and a 16ft hobie cat . for srry to break it to every one but formula windsurfing just owns harder


wtf formula board hard ,,,try sailing a pre 2000 skiff moth 12 inchs wide on the waterline ,,,what are you comparing to,,, a vs and a h16 .....2 of probly the easiest boats to sail on the water in the skiff / multi catagory,,
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3585 posts
NSW, 3585 posts
20 Jul 2010 9:44am
oceans15 said...

hoop - your a bumhole
sexy - dunno when foiler post got started but i saw one in action yesterday - it was an 'assasin' brand boat - brand new. boat is a mammoth task to rig and launch etc as it's T foils dont lift - has to be capsized in deep water and swum/carried to bank to retrieve! An A class cat (comparable as it also only has 1 sail) would destroy that (and most others) around a race course and is much easier to handle for the rest of its owner's time. Sailing does not have to be hard work & a pain in whatever to participate contrary to bumholes posts. Only 2nd hand 'A's are cheaper than a new 'assasin' though. I am not suggesting that all dinghy racing should be stopped but would like to see more kids exposed to multihull sailing - not just what their parents used to sail...


The foiler Moths have wiped very good A Class cat fleets on several occasions, including the Sydney Brass Monkey a season or two back. Yes, an A is a lot quicker in the light stuff when the Moth isn't foiling, but to say that an A Class would destroy a good foiler Moth is just complete rubbish.

If you want kids exposed to cat sailing, what about stop acting like an arrogant and unimaginative person (which is how you come across when you abuse monos) and start working harder on getting kids into sailing junior cats.

Okay, we know that you have a personal preference for cats. That's fine. But to instantly abuse monos as you do is the sort of stuff that gives cat sailors a really bad name. Luckily, very few of them are really like you.

Yes, mono sailors know that cat are often quicker (although downwind or in light wind the Skiffs are pretty damn quick, and that's from someone who sails cats faster than yours and does it okay) but who cares? A tinny with a 15hp on the back is quicker than an A Class, a speed windsurfer is quicker than a Tornado, my grandmother would be quicker than Lance Armstrong or Cadel Evans on a bike, and I go faster in a Boeing than Mark Webber does in a F1 car. BFD, it's not all about speed.

PS - for many people, the fact that a mono is hard to keep up is part of the enjoyment. Not everyone likes it being easy to keep upright most the time. Yes, of course there is skill in cat sailing, but there are different types of skill and many people like the sort of skills that you need more of in a mono.
Drewm
Drewm
VIC
159 posts
VIC, 159 posts
24 Jul 2010 12:50am
To answer the original post, get in contact with the 18' league and get woody or simon, they'll be your best bet.

In regards to the bitching about what's best between mono's and skiffs? Those of you who are fighting for one side or another, wake up and smell the bull**** you've been posting.

It's like comparing F1 and V8 supercars. They're a different beast and require a different skill set with the same base components. You have to be a good sailor to win at either, but a good skiff sailor may not be a great multi sailor. If you want to simply go fast, can take novices for a burn now and again and have an easy to rig/derig boat, then yeah sure multi's might be your favourite. I like doing 20-25 downhill on the 18', getting airborn and being completely on the edge of control, but that's just me.

Whoever posted that 18's are a bitch to rig? How many times did you do it? With the same 3 crew each weekend it took us 35 minutes from trailer to water, and 25 minutes water to trailer. I know people who take longer to get on the water in cat's mate, nothing personal, but in my opinion what you said is crap
Drewm
Drewm
VIC
159 posts
VIC, 159 posts
24 Jul 2010 12:52am
also, just to back up the fact i'm not bias, i completely support for tornado's to be reinstated as an olympic class and if the rumours are true that there will be no multi's at the Perth isaf worlds, then i have lost what little faith i had left in ISAF to make their decisions on the good of the sport as a whole.
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