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Buying a boat - Pittwater

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Created by TheFrenchy 2 months ago, 4 Sep 2017
TheFrenchy
NSW, 34 posts
4 Sep 2017 4:08PM
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Hi guys,

I am new to Sydney and I miss my sailing boat so much back in the UK.

I am on the edge of buying a sailing boat with a swing mooring in Pittwater. The issue here is that I have no idea what is the regulation in NSW. I have a French Boat licence for use vessels from 10 knots or more.

I am unsure of the regulation. I believe that I would need to swap my french boat licence to NSW one for getting the mooring to my name. I would need to insure the boat. What else should I consider?

Thanks in advance!

lauriel
NSW, 4 posts
4 Sep 2017 5:13PM
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Information is available from "Services NSW". Previously known as Roads and Maritime Services. Info also from the volunteer organisation, Marine Rescue who run courses I have found generally excellent including VHF radio licence which is required if you have a VHF radio. Power boaters have more onerous rquirements compared to sailors. Enjoy your sailing Down Under.

FelixdeCat
NSW, 105 posts
4 Sep 2017 5:26PM
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No license needed to own, register etc a boat or mooring.

If it's a private mooring check there is no waiting list or else the next person on the list gets the mooring not you. They cannot be sold or directly transferred from one person to another as far as I know

TheFrenchy
NSW, 34 posts
4 Sep 2017 5:56PM
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Thanks guys for the quick reply.

There are quite a lot of boat with sold with mooring. I am quite confused if it is legal to sell a boat with mooring?

Cheers

twodogs1969
NSW, 659 posts
4 Sep 2017 6:32PM
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It is legal to sell the mooring tackle not the space. Could be a smart move if you are not buying another boat sell the tackle then it becomes the purchases responsible for the removal if no space available. But as said previously if no waiting list for that area you will be ok. Maybe check with the local maritime officer.

FelixdeCat
NSW, 105 posts
5 Sep 2017 8:25AM
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Yeah plenty of people will claim to be selling it with the mooring but it's outside of their control I think. If you get the zone code from the RMS website then give them a call or pop into a service NSW branch they can tell you if there is a waiting list.

heres the link to the mooring zone map. They will need to know the code of the area to check waiting lists.

www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/moorings/mooring-maps.html

Yara
NSW, 666 posts
5 Sep 2017 9:31AM
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FelixdeCat said..
Yeah plenty of people will claim to be selling it with the mooring but it's outside of their control I think. If you get the zone code from the RMS website then give them a call or pop into a service NSW branch they can tell you if there is a waiting list.

heres the link to the mooring zone map. They will need to know the code of the area to check waiting lists.

www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/moorings/mooring-maps.html


And here is the link to the waiting lists. www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/moorings/priority-waiting-lists/hawkesbury-river-broken-bay-region.html

If the wait list is zero in the area where the mooring is, you can apply to take it over. Alternatively you can get a mooring licence in an area where the waitlist is zero, and have the apparatus moved to your spot.

UncleBob
NSW, 191 posts
5 Sep 2017 9:47AM
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TheFrenchy said..
Hi guys,

I am new to Sydney and I miss my sailing boat so much back in the UK.

I am on the edge of buying a sailing boat with a swing mooring in Pittwater. The issue here is that I have no idea what is the regulation in NSW. I have a French Boat licence for use vessels from 10 knots or more.

I am unsure of the regulation. I believe that I would need to swap my french boat licence to NSW one for getting the mooring to my name. I would need to insure the boat. What else should I consider?

Thanks in advance!


Hi, firstly if you are looking at a sailing boat there is no licence required to own and/or operate one in NSW (other states vary) and secondly as others have said, check with RMS regarding the existing mooring. I have found the RMS boating officers pleasant and easy to deal with.
Cheers, Bob.

TheFrenchy
NSW, 34 posts
5 Sep 2017 12:08PM
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Cheers for the help!
I will apply for license for Maccarrs Creek and then see what is the best solution for getting a contractor
I may go for renting a mooring for now - Colin Beashel Marine quoted me $168/month with tenders facilities.

MichaelR
NSW, 665 posts
5 Sep 2017 12:55PM
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Don't be disuaded if there is a short waiting list. Often people put their names down but when a spot becomes available, they're not ready to take it up. So the next person on the list is contacted.

When I got my mooring approved in Careel Bay, I was 8th on the list and there were three available. 5 of the previous applicants didn't have boats ready to go on. I was offered a spot near the weed bank, with less than 10cm clearance at low tide. So I asked if there was a deeper place. As it turned out, there was one with tackle already there. I contacted the previous owner and he gave me the tackle, which I promptly had serviced.

It pays to visit the RMS boating service officer at Bayview. Have a chat to them and see what is coming up. Their details are on this page. www.thequaysmarina.com.au/marine-centre.html

TheFrenchy
NSW, 34 posts
5 Sep 2017 1:24PM
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Thanks Michael,

I'll have a look and definitely ring them. It is just the unknown of not having a space and the waiting list that scares me. So that is why i'd maybe opt out for renting one for short term.


Cheers

MichaelR
NSW, 665 posts
5 Sep 2017 1:52PM
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TheFrenchy said..
Thanks Michael,

I'll have a look and definitely ring them. It is just the unknown of not having a space and the waiting list that scares me. So that is why i'd maybe opt out for renting one for short term.


Cheers


No worries. If you want, try Careel Bay Marina. They do swing moorings as well, and because they're a bit further up, it's an easier access to Broken Bay and outside. They have full marine services, and a 7 day tender service, that you can still use when you get your own mooring (for a small fee). From memory, their moorings are a little cheaper than those in the southern end of Pittwater. In my opinion, it's a nicer bay than Church Point and McCarr's Creek.

TheFrenchy
NSW, 34 posts
5 Sep 2017 2:52PM
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MichaelR said..


TheFrenchy said..
Thanks Michael,

I'll have a look and definitely ring them. It is just the unknown of not having a space and the waiting list that scares me. So that is why i'd maybe opt out for renting one for short term.


Cheers




No worries. If you want, try Careel Bay Marina. They do swing moorings as well, and because they're a bit further up, it's an easier access to Broken Bay and outside. They have full marine services, and a 7 day tender service, that you can still use when you get your own mooring (for a small fee). From memory, their moorings are a little cheaper than those in the southern end of Pittwater. In my opinion, it's a nicer bay than Church Point and McCarr's Creek.



Awesome advice! Cheers Micheal - I'll definitely have a look.

TheFrenchy
NSW, 34 posts
5 Sep 2017 3:01PM
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Silly question Micheal but does Careel Bay Marina have work wharf for washing the boat, do chords with pump-out facility, water, electricity ...

MichaelR
NSW, 665 posts
5 Sep 2017 5:06PM
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TheFrenchy said..
Silly question Micheal but does Careel Bay Marina have work wharf for washing the boat, do chords with pump-out facility, water, electricity ...


They do have a wharf, but washing the boat with soap is frowned upon. Not sure if their Workplace Safety regulations allow "do it yourself" work on their wharf. They have fresh water. There is a pump out station on the public section of the wharf.

Go up and visit, ask for Bluey.

FelixdeCat
NSW, 105 posts
7 Sep 2017 10:43AM
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Yeah they have a DIY area of the wharf for hire with 240v, gurney etc

Muzz65
NSW, 51 posts
8 Sep 2017 10:44AM
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I only had to wait a few months on the waiting list for my McCarrs creek mooring.
The reason I went for McCarrs creek was it's very sheltered, never any chop and hardly any wash.

samsturdy
NSW, 971 posts
8 Sep 2017 10:50AM
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Muzz65 said..
I only had to wait a few months on the waiting list for my McCarrs creek mooring.
The reason I went for McCarrs creek was it's very sheltered, never any chop and hardly any wash.


I'm in McCarrs Creek Muzz. Looks like we'll catch up sometime.

samuel22
1 posts
13 Sep 2017 10:49PM
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Drifting off topic a bit but have somebody noticed that boat quality in Italy is going downhill? Keep bumping into many interesting articles (www.superyachtnews.com/business/italy-superyacht-industry-suppliers-subcontractors-italian-superyacht-forum-) and reviews (sanlorenzo-sucks.com/true-facts/) . Even read about one super yacht sinking within 2 minutes after they put it into the water.

HG02
VIC, 5790 posts
15 Sep 2017 3:00PM
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samuel22 said..
Drifting off topic a bit but have somebody noticed that boat quality in Italy is going downhill? Keep bumping into many interesting articles (www.superyachtnews.com/business/italy-superyacht-industry-suppliers-subcontractors-italian-superyacht-forum-) and reviews (sanlorenzo-sucks.com/true-facts/) . Even read about one super yacht sinking within 2 minutes after they put it into the water.


There probably only have concrete warranty



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