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Created by theselkie > 9 months ago, 21 Nov 2018
LandofNod
VIC, 27 posts
29 Jun 2019 11:22PM
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ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?

Ramona
NSW, 5220 posts
30 Jun 2019 8:15AM
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ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?


I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.

Donk107
TAS, 2268 posts
30 Jun 2019 9:35AM
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I am probably going to cop some flak suggesting this but I often look at boats like this and think I could live with that for myself and my wife
We are not looking to cross oceans but just something comfortable for a few weeks away cruising southern Tassie
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/beneteau-oceanis-clipper-343/233544

Regards Don

All@Sea
TAS, 112 posts
30 Jun 2019 9:46AM
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LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?





I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.




One of my favourite Richard Bennett photos from "Ocean Classics" is of a Carter 30 with just one man on deck...

Sorry about the crappy photo quality. the caption says: Bob Lawler's Carter 30 'Firetel' off the New South Wales coast. "It shows the endless wastes and loneliness of the ocean; little boat and lust one the one man to be seen, at the wheel."

LandofNod
VIC, 27 posts
30 Jun 2019 12:13PM
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Ramona said..

LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?



I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.


Yeah got ya. So would Be looking at adjusting the main or getting new I one made up, setting up reefing system and getting a dodger fitted, oh and also a proper bow roller.
Thoughts on loose footed mains?

LandofNod
VIC, 27 posts
30 Jun 2019 12:34PM
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Ramona said..




LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?






I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.





One of my favourite Richard Bennett photos from "Ocean Classics" is of a Carter 30 with just one man on deck...

Sorry about the crappy photo quality. the caption says: Bob Lawler's Carter 30 'Firetel' off the New South Wales coast. "It shows the endless wastes and loneliness of the ocean; little boat and lust one the one man to be seen, at the wheel."


That's is a fantastic photo. So the Carter 30, when handled well, have no problem in a blow then.
my sailing waters are far western Victoria, so when I get out from behind the break wall im straight into the southern ocean, the shelf is about 5 mile out.
Ive been surfing for over 20 year so I can read weather pretty well. I remember when we had jump on our pushies down to the milk bar and leaf through the local paper to get the three days Synoptics.
Anyways looking for a half toner or the like, can be handled well single handed and will get me back home should the weather turn hard. I do love a full keel but I don't really need a slug that will cross an ocean at the moment. Got 30k.
Ive looked at a couple of h28's but they seem a bit too Over kill for me.
I like currawongs, had a compass 28 already, more of a traditional lines kinda guy. Can anyone's push me in the right direction? It gets a bit over whelming with options.

lydia
943 posts
30 Jun 2019 10:35AM
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Firetel was a 33
wheel barrow was the 30
why wheelbarrow you ask
bwcause as their t shirt said
" is is a dick carter design"

from 1981

LandofNod
VIC, 27 posts
30 Jun 2019 12:39PM
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LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?



I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.


Yeah with wheel and traveler in the cock pit, there isn't much room for or anyone else hey or to stretch out behind a dodger.

All@Sea
TAS, 112 posts
30 Jun 2019 12:43PM
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lydia said..
Firetel was a 33
wheel barrow was the 30
why wheelbarrow you ask
bwcause as their t shirt said
" is is a dick carter design"

from 1981


Wealth of knowledge! You'll have to get Richard to edit his book ??

LandofNod
VIC, 27 posts
30 Jun 2019 12:48PM
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Your going to have to explain the wheelbarrow reference I don't get it.
I don't see it as a compliment, though I am partial to a nice 'barra'.... but it's usually full of ****.

www.buyaboat.com.au/buyaboat/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/currawong-30/231660

Ide like your personal opinion on this one Ramona

shaggybaxter
QLD, 1826 posts
30 Jun 2019 12:50PM
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Thoughts on loose footed mains?




Can't collect rainwater?
Other than that, I prefer a loose foot. I find it easier to live with, lashing reef lines around the boom, getting battened sails on off, and general mucking around. And you get a nice clean camber for outhaul trimming.

LandofNod
VIC, 27 posts
30 Jun 2019 1:11PM
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Thoughts on loose footed mains?





Can't collect rainwater?
Other than that, I prefer a loose foot. I find it easier to live with, lashing reef lines around the boom, getting battened sails on off, and general mucking around. And you get a nice clean camber for outhaul trimming.

Very true, would be much easier for reefing as you can just lash where ever. So if you could shimmy a reef line along the boom I guess you could use a single line to reef the clew and just change eyes as you shake or reef. But I guess you kinda don't want to be trying to re run a reefing line when your putting in a third reef?

Ramona
NSW, 5220 posts
30 Jun 2019 5:51PM
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Your going to have to explain the wheelbarrow reference I don't get it.
I don't see it as a compliment, though I am partial to a nice 'barra'.... but it's usually full of ****.

www.buyaboat.com.au/buyaboat/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/currawong-30/231660

Ide like your personal opinion on this one Ramona


Nice looking boat. Different interior to mine. I like the forward stowage area, mine has a V berth that is too short to sleep on. Cabin top winches and jammers are out of reach to the cockpit and the reefing lines are missing. No one needs to leave the cockpit to reef in a small boat! Slightly over priced.
If you don't mind wheel steering I would suggest Duncanson 34's. Much better accommodation than a Currawong with that added length.
These will go for 30 grand I'm guessing.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/duncanson-34/226735

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/duncanson-34/217038

If your tastes run to quality ocean racers you should have bought that Ohlson 38 that sold in Tasmania last week. The Ohlson 35 in Queensland has been for sale for ages and would be open to offers.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/ohlson-35/198727

Ramona
NSW, 5220 posts
30 Jun 2019 5:58PM
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I am probably going to cop some flak suggesting this but I often look at boats like this and think I could live with that for myself and my wife
We are not looking to cross oceans but just something comfortable for a few weeks away cruising southern Tassie
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/beneteau-oceanis-clipper-343/233544

Regards Don


There are three SS39's for sale at the moment. This one would suit you.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/234710

I would prefer the cheap one for myself. yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

Donk107
TAS, 2268 posts
30 Jun 2019 7:12PM
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Donk107 said..
I am probably going to cop some flak suggesting this but I often look at boats like this and think I could live with that for myself and my wife
We are not looking to cross oceans but just something comfortable for a few weeks away cruising southern Tassie
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/beneteau-oceanis-clipper-343/233544

Regards Don



There are three SS39's for sale at the moment. This one would suit you.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/234710

I would prefer the cheap one for myself. yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425


Hi Ramona

A mate of mine down here who is an experienced sailor sailed his SS39 across from WA a couple of years ago with his wife told me he felt the 39 was a bit big to handle sail wise especially if things turned to crap in the middle of the night and said he believed his ideal boat would be a SS34

I tend to think that the 34 to 36 foot mark is a good compromise

Regards Don

Chris 249
NSW, 1889 posts
30 Jun 2019 7:24PM
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Ramona said..




LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?






I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.





One of my favourite Richard Bennett photos from "Ocean Classics" is of a Carter 30 with just one man on deck...

Sorry about the crappy photo quality. the caption says: Bob Lawler's Carter 30 'Firetel' off the New South Wales coast. "It shows the endless wastes and loneliness of the ocean; little boat and lust one the one man to be seen, at the wheel."


Firetel is a 33. If I have the right year I may have been just out of the shot!

Chris 249
NSW, 1889 posts
30 Jun 2019 7:27PM
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lydia said..
Firetel was a 33
wheel barrow was the 30
why wheelbarrow you ask
bwcause as their t shirt said
" is is a dick carter design"

from 1981


Beat me to it. That was the worlds ugliest half tonner t shirt. It made "get off your bum and sail the Plum" seem classy

Chris 249
NSW, 1889 posts
30 Jun 2019 7:29PM
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LandofNod said..
Your going to have to explain the wheelbarrow reference I don't get it.
I don't see it as a compliment, though I am partial to a nice 'barra'.... but it's usually full of ****.

www.buyaboat.com.au/buyaboat/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/currawong-30/231660

Ide like your personal opinion on this one Ramona


The t shirt had a man with an enormous (can't put it on a family friendly website) in front of him in a wheelbarrow

Ramona
NSW, 5220 posts
1 Jul 2019 8:31AM
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Hi Ramona

A mate of mine down here who is an experienced sailor sailed his SS39 across from WA a couple of years ago with his wife told me he felt the 39 was a bit big to handle sail wise especially if things turned to crap in the middle of the night and said he believed his ideal boat would be a SS34

I tend to think that the 34 to 36 foot mark is a good compromise

Regards Don


There was an interesting interview with Jon Sanders in the "Afloat" magazine a few months ago where he stated he always sailed with the first reef in the main. Looking at photos that clearly was not the case but if Jon who is planning another circumnavigation at 80 shortly can handle it then we could too! thewest.com.au/sport/sailing/jon-sanders-to-circumnavigate-the-globe-in-his-yacht-for-the-11th-time-ng-b881231020z
If I was to suddenly come into some money the cheap SS39 is on top of my list. Toss the wheel steering and dodger. Cheap Aries off eBay. Install winches at the cabin top rear with jammers. Electric halyard winch, lazyjacks, stackpack and sail plan similar to what "Mark Twain" used in the Sydney Hobart. Would be easier to handle than that Beneteau with the cast iron keel in your link.

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 650 posts
2 Jul 2019 6:38AM
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LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?


It appears to have been looked after well.
Appealing.

Ramona
NSW, 5220 posts
5 Jul 2019 9:07AM
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Madman's Woodyard is for sale again. Good value. I guess you have to lie down to use the HF radio!

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-31ft-6-performance-cruiser-club-racer-great-cond/235054

lydia
943 posts
5 Jul 2019 7:25AM
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My first timber boat reno.
The was a sliding nav table under the cockpit so navigator was always on the high side of the yacht.
Decided bed was better use and the hf only got used for race skeds twice a year.
Never got wet there through and it was close to antenna base.
Still the original top side paint job from 1995 btw

Insomniac
NSW, 19 posts
5 Jul 2019 12:52PM
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Madman's Woodyard is for sale again. Good value. I guess you have to lie down to use the HF radio!

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-31ft-6-performance-cruiser-club-racer-great-cond/235054


Excuse my ignorance..but what is the rationale for those "stepthru"bulkheads.? Is to strengthen the hull or something to do with stopping water flooding in? Thanks

Ramona
NSW, 5220 posts
5 Jul 2019 5:18PM
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lydia said..
My first timber boat reno.
The was a sliding nav table under the cockpit so navigator was always on the high side of the yacht.
Decided bed was better use and the hf only got used for race skeds twice a year.
Never got wet there through and it was close to antenna base.
Still the original top side paint job from 1995 btw


That's a very nice piece of work!

lydia
943 posts
5 Jul 2019 3:38PM
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Ramona said..
Madman's Woodyard is for sale again. Good value. I guess you have to lie down to use the HF radio!

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-31ft-6-performance-cruiser-club-racer-great-cond/235054



Excuse my ignorance..but what is the rationale for those "stepthru"bulkheads.? Is to strengthen the hull or something to do with stopping water flooding in? Thanks


not sure what you call step thru bulkheads?
if it is the fwd bulkhead in main cabin that was an add on after me.

lydia
943 posts
5 Jul 2019 3:46PM
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Coffs race about 1997 I think!!


Scotty Cav (ex Class 40 Round the World winner and mintransat) in the pit and Joshy Walker (sometime superyacht and big boat Hobart crew) trimming.
Both probarly 16 or 17 at the time.
Sold it in 1999.
Should have kept the Wooduck, would have saved me doing up Defiance.

Same mainsail as the picture in the Ad btw

lydia
943 posts
6 Jul 2019 6:23AM
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Stupid thing is I could not take the kids offshore now as deemed too young!

twodogs1969
NSW, 923 posts
6 Jul 2019 8:31AM
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lydia said..
My first timber boat reno.
The was a sliding nav table under the cockpit so navigator was always on the high side of the yacht.
Decided bed was better use and the hf only got used for race skeds twice a year.
Never got wet there through and it was close to antenna base.
Still the original top side paint job from 1995 btw


I did a Hobart on madman

lydia
943 posts
6 Jul 2019 9:45AM
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It is a hell of a list of people who have done ocean races on the wooduck
cheers to you
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