Should I buy this Northshore 27?

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Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
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12 Sep 2016 11:28am
Hi all,
I think I want a cruiser/racer and I am limited to the size I can put on my mooring.
This is the best I have found but looks overpriced.
Do you agree?

http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/private/used/SSE-AD-4237646/1982-NORTHSHORE-27?cr=0&psq=%28%28%28Make%3DNORTHSHORE%26Model%3D27%29%26%28%28%28SiloType%3DDealer%20used%20boats%7CSiloType%3DDealer%20new%20boats%29%7CSiloType%3DPrivate%20used%20boats%29%7CSiloType%3DDemo%20and%20near%20new%20boats%29%29%26Service%3DBoatsales%29&pso=0&pss=Premium
twodogs1969
twodogs1969
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
12 Sep 2016 12:00pm
The link hasn't worked.
Is this to race at Cronulla or somewhere else?
What are the limitations you have?
what about a ross830 or young 88 both a bit faster

http://www.boatsales.com.au/boats-for-sale/dealer/used/OAG-AD-7574226/1983-YOUNG-88?cr=2&psq=%28%28%28Service%3D%5BBoatsales%5D%26%28%28%28SiloType%3D%5BDealer%20used%20boats%5D%7CSiloType%3D%5BDealer%20new%20boats%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BPrivate%20used%20boats%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20and%20near%20new%20boats%5D%29%29%26BoatAll%3Dkeyword%5Byoung%5D%29%26Make%3D%5BYOUNG%5D%29&pso=0&pss=Premium

www.boatsales.com.au/boats-for-sale/private/used/SSE-AD-3279642/1989-ROSS-830?cr=4&psq=%28%28%28Service%3D%5BBoatsales%5D%26%28%28%28SiloType%3D%5BDealer%20used%20boats%5D%7CSiloType%3D%5BDealer%20new%20boats%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BPrivate%20used%20boats%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20and%20near%20new%20boats%5D%29%29%26BoatType%3D%5BSail%5D%29%26BoatAll%3Dkeyword%5Bross%5D%29&pso=0&pss=Premium
Jode5
Jode5
QLD
853 posts
QLD, 853 posts
12 Sep 2016 12:39pm
Both the Ross and Young are great boats. Just pick the boat that you think is best value for money.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
12 Sep 2016 1:39pm
Thank you for both foryour comments.
I have looked at them and it was an opener.
I will keep you informed of my progress
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
12 Sep 2016 11:47am
It is a buyer"s market, make a very low offer and see what comes back from there, you may be surprised.
Use strategy: get your friend to make an offer very very low and then top it Worked for me
keensailor
keensailor
NSW
702 posts
NSW, 702 posts
12 Sep 2016 3:24pm
Great boat, we have a 1984 one.
I think it looks pretty good, has some nice gear. I would just get motor properly assessed as this would be about 5-6k for a fully reconed Bukh.
Also what condition is the rigging in.
twodogs1969
twodogs1969
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
13 Sep 2016 5:43pm
Not as good as the Ross id your thinking about the sanata have a look at an Adams 8
Donk107
Donk107
TAS
2446 posts
TAS, 2446 posts
13 Sep 2016 6:39pm
Hi Bundeenboy

In the original post you said you are limited in the size of boat you can put on your mooring which makes me think you might prefer a larger boat

Is there any possibility of upping the length allowed on your mooring because here in Tassie if there is room around the mooring for a larger boat MAST who regulate the moorings will change the length of the mooring to suit a longer boat

Regards Don
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
2681 posts
QLD, 2681 posts
13 Sep 2016 7:54pm
And if you're happy with the 8mtr bracket, I would humbly suggest a Ross 780? Great crossover boats.
lydia
lydia
1944 posts
1944 posts
13 Sep 2016 6:36pm
Quick question are you taking the bride sailing if so there are only two option in that range, north shore 27 and cav 28.
Why?
Each has a proper enclosed stand up head With a proper door.
Sorry.
Girls don't camp! (Not for long anyway)
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Sep 2016 10:26am
Hi all,
I am limited to 26 feet at the moment although the msb may allow a bigger boat later.
I have not found a Ross or Young that looks good in NSW.
I am inspecting a S&S S80 on Monday. Where do you rate them?
zilla
zilla
145 posts
145 posts
14 Sep 2016 9:16am
felixdcat said..
Use strategy: get your friend to make an offer very very low and then top it Worked for me


This is very bad advice. It is dishonest. How would you like that approach used on you if you were selling a boat ?

Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Sep 2016 11:37am
Hi Twodogs,
I did look at it but I thought the one in Tasmania was much better value?
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Sep 2016 12:59pm
Thanks Twodogs,
I am looking at the adams on the weekend.
twodogs1969
twodogs1969
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
14 Sep 2016 1:14pm
Bundeenaboy said...
Please tell me what you think is wrong with this one.
http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/private/used/SSE-AD-3943460/1985-Swarbrick-Swarbrick-S80


Nothing wrong with it just as bare as the adams for cruising but the adams is half the price. I am pretty sure the adams is much faster also.
I raced on an adams 8 for about 6 seasons they even use to do the short offshore races but I would not like to be offshore in a decent blow in one.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Sep 2016 1:36pm
I agree with everything you said.
I will try and estimate what it will cost to make it good again, and do I have the time.
The S&S looks in great condition. I am viewing that on Monday.
lydia
lydia
1944 posts
1944 posts
14 Sep 2016 11:37am
S 80, great boat let down by a cast iron keel unless it is one of the last built with lead keel.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Sep 2016 1:45pm
So I have to ask the question. Why let down? Rust?
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve
QLD
2195 posts
QLD, 2195 posts
14 Sep 2016 7:22pm
zilla said...
felixdcat said..
Use strategy: get your friend to make an offer very very low and then top it Worked for me


This is very bad advice. It is dishonest. How would you like that approach used on you if you were selling a boat ?

This ****s me also and is why I hate ebay



felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
15 Sep 2016 8:44am
Sectorsteve said..


zilla said...


felixdcat said..
Use strategy: get your friend to make an offer very very low and then top it Worked for me




This is very bad advice. It is dishonest. How would you like that approach used on you if you were selling a boat ?

This ****s me also and is why I hate ebay






Not at all it is making good use of a buyers market, had it done to me when I sold my Farr that what gave me the idea, the guy that did it was not that clever..... he use the same phone number .
Was not in a rush selling so I did not fall in the trap!
Ebay is different some peeps get family and friends to bid to up the price and when you make an offer it is a binding contract. That is dishonest in my book.
Prefer dealing with peeps doing strategy than time wasters that come to have a look and pick every little scratches to offer a ridiculous price, most of the time they don't have any intention to buy the boat, or want to go for a sea trial. I ask for a $100 deposit to go not refundable if the deal is not done except if the boat has a big fault not mentioned at first inspection (leaking water, dead engine.....)
lydia
lydia
1944 posts
1944 posts
15 Sep 2016 8:01pm
Lack of stability, when it could have been great from the get go.
shoodbegood
shoodbegood
VIC
873 posts
VIC, 873 posts
16 Sep 2016 9:26pm
Look at all the rest Bundee, but the Northshore 27 is a beautiful little boat.
Dad had one with a furling heady, sailed it single handed no worries, club raced, had a ball with a couple of his mates.
Best boat he had.


Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
19 Sep 2016 1:44pm
I looked at the Adams 8 and the Swarbrick s80 on the weekend.
Still looking.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
26 Sep 2016 8:08am
I have looked at the Adams 8, and the Swarbrick SJ8 which both require considerable work. My feelings are I would rather pay more and get a better boat but I really enjoyed the speed of them in very light winds.
I have not been able to contact the owner of Boss Ross. If anyone can help me here it would be good.
Planeray
Planeray
NSW
221 posts
NSW, 221 posts
26 Sep 2016 5:34pm
What sort of work was required on the Adams? Looks interesting to me if some changes go the way I hope workwise.

(And, of course, I get permission from the dept of war and finance)
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
30 Sep 2016 3:04pm
http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/private/used/SSE-AD-3943460/1985-Swarbrick-Swarbrick-S80 via @boatsalescomau

I finally bought the boat I wanted.
I had two inspections and a sail
I picked it up this morning and put it on its new home.
I am relieved and happy.
Its a light weight racer/cruiser.
I would like to give a big thanks to all those who offered me help in this decision.


Ringle
Ringle
NSW
196 posts
NSW, 196 posts
30 Sep 2016 3:55pm
Congratulations, good buy. Better than the Northshore 27.

Don't buy expensive electronics, just the minimum.

spend your $ on good sails if you are going to race.
Lenn
Lenn
NSW
174 posts
NSW, 174 posts
1 Oct 2016 3:56am
I thought the northshore was nice....been following your adventure. Enjoy the new ride. Will look for it next tine i am surfing mainbar..
Jode5
Jode5
QLD
853 posts
QLD, 853 posts
1 Oct 2016 12:27pm
Congratulations you are now a PBO (poor bloody owner) The S80 is great boat, my brother have one for a numbers of years and never had a problem. If I remember correctly the rig is the same as an Etchel, so if you want sails you should be able to get quality second hand ones as these guys usually get new sails well before their use by date.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
2 Oct 2016 7:05am
My new purchase is berthed at C4 @ CYCA until the new year.
Anyone interested is welcome to look at it.
A name change is on the cards, and I am guessing I just do that when I register it in my name.
As the servey is three years old I expect it will have to come out of the water to be inspected before any company will insure it?
I am having another look at it today and will start to make plans as to the work that 'needs to be done'.
Initially I am having the rigging checked, and will go from there.
I have benefited greatly from all the advice so far. Please feel free to continue.
HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
2 Oct 2016 9:38am
For a name change you need to buy a very large bottle of Rum first drink it and then row around your boat three times sprouting out her new name.
Denaming proces below
goodoldboat.com/renaming-a-boat-how-bad-could-that-be/


and then
www.goodoldboat.com/reader_services/articles/naming.php
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