YACHT PRICES ARE GOING TO Plummet As Economy Falls To Pieces.

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SeaSneeze
SeaSneeze
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
12 Mar 2020 6:47pm
SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..


SandS said..



Magpieuser said..




TKNick said..
China has COVD 19 under control with only 20 new cases a day and the majority of those infected now well. I wouldn't be surprised if China trade is not not back to normal in 2 or 3 months time.






I'd be disappointed if it wasn't back to normal in weeks.

But yeah surely in 2 to 3 months China will be powering along again worst case scenario.





glad you think so . nice to here some happy thoughts . but i dont think we have ever heard the truth about this situation .




On the news tonight, the Chief Medical Officer for NSW said 1.5 million people are expected to catch the virus in our state.
If one percent of these die, that's 1500 people in NSW.
Am I right?



how many people died in the spanish flue pandemic ?


Estimated 20 - 50 mill

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r13
r13
NSW
1721 posts
r13 r13
NSW, 1721 posts
12 Mar 2020 10:05pm
Thought this was a sailing site.
Madmouse
Madmouse
435 posts
435 posts
12 Mar 2020 7:40pm
1% of 1.5mil is 15,000 people.

But the death rate is more like 3%..
Toph
Toph
WA
1890 posts
WA, 1890 posts
12 Mar 2020 10:15pm
r13 said..
Thought this was a sailing site.


Guys, whilst no forum rules have been broken here in this thread, please help prevent a repeat of the Climate Change thread debacle (where more than one valued member hasn't returned) and keep this post on topic. There are more than enough Covid-19 topics in both the General forum and Heavy Weather...
UncleBob
UncleBob
NSW
1314 posts
NSW, 1314 posts
13 Mar 2020 10:19am
Sadly I'm not sure which is going to be worse, covid or the panic that seems to be fueled by it.
If the panic takes hold then yacht prices may actually rise.
Karsten
Karsten
NSW
331 posts
NSW, 331 posts
13 Mar 2020 12:56pm
Looking for a positive side - perhaps the value of my sailboat will hold up better than, currently, the value of my shares...
Yara
Yara
NSW
1322 posts
NSW, 1322 posts
13 Mar 2020 1:17pm
Karsten said..
Looking for a positive side - perhaps the value of my sailboat will hold up better than, currently, the value of my shares...


It seems that the average age of sailors on this forum is towards umm, the later years. Many of us might even be retirees. A stock market crash might make keeping a boat difficult on a reduced pension. The only solution I can see for that is get out of the high cost cities and into the lower cost areas where mooring, slipping, etc is a bit cheaper. Keep the boat.
UncleBob
UncleBob
NSW
1314 posts
NSW, 1314 posts
13 Mar 2020 2:01pm
Yara said..

Karsten said..
Looking for a positive side - perhaps the value of my sailboat will hold up better than, currently, the value of my shares...



It seems that the average age of sailors on this forum is towards umm, the later years. Many of us might even be retirees. A stock market crash might make keeping a boat difficult on a reduced pension. The only solution I can see for that is get out of the high cost cities and into the lower cost areas where mooring, slipping, etc is a bit cheaper. Keep the boat.


At least the slump in share value is only a paper slump if you don't have to sell. Shares fluctuate in value every day, just that now the fluctuation has become a slippery slide but I am sure that it will return soon enough. All should be OK if you don't have to sell.
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve
QLD
2195 posts
QLD, 2195 posts
14 Mar 2020 2:03pm
id rather be on my yacht than living in some city reliant on supermarkets etc atm. my boats worth more to me now than ever.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Mar 2020 3:59pm
SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..


SandS said..



Magpieuser said..




TKNick said..
China has COVD 19 under control with only 20 new cases a day and the majority of those infected now well. I wouldn't be surprised if China trade is not not back to normal in 2 or 3 months time.






I'd be disappointed if it wasn't back to normal in weeks.

But yeah surely in 2 to 3 months China will be powering along again worst case scenario.





glad you think so . nice to here some happy thoughts . but i dont think we have ever heard the truth about this situation .




On the news tonight, the Chief Medical Officer for NSW said 1.5 million people are expected to catch the virus in our state.
If one percent of these die, that's 1500 people in NSW.
Am I right?



how many people died in the spanish flue pandemic ?


20 to 50 million when the world's population was 550 million in 1919
garymalmgren
garymalmgren
1396 posts
1396 posts
14 Mar 2020 1:05pm
The only solution I can see for that is get out of the high cost cities and into the lower cost areas where mooring, slipping, etc is a bit cheaper. Keep the boat.

There is another solution Yara, and you can keep that boat.
Reduce all costs and labor by sharing a boat.
Might not be perfect , but much less radical than getting out of high cost cities.

gary
woko
woko
NSW
1802 posts
NSW, 1802 posts
14 Mar 2020 8:55pm
Gee Gary, sharing a boat, well it's a bit like sharing a significant other, I'm not sure I'd approve of someone else exercising shared authority with my vessel
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3586 posts
NSW, 3586 posts
15 Mar 2020 6:10pm
We live on a country acreage already, but we've been thinking that if we have to self isolate, we may move down to the boat at Port Stephens. Imagine having to sit on the boat, go sailing, windsurfing, etc for weeks on end with only the occasional midnight trip to the supermarket. Oh, the horror......
oldboyracer
oldboyracer
NSW
292 posts
NSW, 292 posts
15 Mar 2020 7:15pm
Well I paid 24k about 8 years ago , it's now worth 40k ,I don't see a problem , next week it's worth 45k . My boat was stocked for a 3 month trip . I have toilet paper,rice and pasta on board . You just have to take the boat with the sale ??. Seriously you buy a boat cause you want one , not cause you think it's way of accruing an asset. If you live on it and rent your house out ,it sort of becomes an asset.
SunsetSailer
SunsetSailer
TAS
36 posts
TAS, 36 posts
15 Mar 2020 7:44pm
Not much difference between boats and cars in the matter of depreciation. Buy a new car and it won't be long before it's worth half what you paid. Buy a 20 yo car and if it's a good one, you won't lose much capital over quite a few years.

In both cases, buy an old bomb and you will end up spending more than it is worth
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3586 posts
NSW, 3586 posts
16 Mar 2020 12:32pm
The thing about boats is that if you buy a good older one and maintain it well, you've still got a good boat at the end of the time. If you buy a good older car and maintain it will, it will still normally run out of life.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
17 Mar 2020 6:02am
Chris 249 said..
The thing about boats is that if you buy a good older one and maintain it well, you've still got a good boat at the end of the time. If you buy a good older car and maintain it will, it will still normally run out of life.



Some positive news for me and maybe everyone with a boat.
In the last six months I have sold my Southern Cross 23 for $1000 less than I paid for it six years ago.
I have sold three shares my Swarbrick 26 to lovely partners for the asking price.
And the money is in the bank yesterday for my quarter share in Sanity (Jeanneau 35) for slightly more than I paid.
Maybe I had good fortune.

We plan to race the Swarbrick 26 in the winter (very doubtful), and I plan to cruise my Swanson 28 in the future (hopeful).
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