OMG, Now you get the greese out oliver? You were just telling LSD he was a bush mechanic and a hobby bulider, Now you want to demo one.

I think you may just like what ever you can sponge off someone cheap.

You can think off me as anything you like, I just cant stand your dribble when it makes no sense .

Why do you keep editing your posts oliver?? You trying to dig yourself out the crap

Hey Olie....I was about to apoint you as a pro rider for my boards......
my feelings are so hurt....."a bush mechanic" i may even take you off my chrissi card list

LOL

BP doesnt even wash i mean own a SUP.

Love your passion LSD
Would buy one of your boards over any production any day of the week for no other reason than thy are made with love.

LSD said...

Hey Olie....I was about to apoint you as a pro rider for my boards......

Now that would be good to see - a line up of bald, fat over 40 team riders with go pro attachments. Forget Piros and his bevy of beauties. Let's give those US shareholders something that will really make them fondle their worry beads.

I would also consider wathing hemroids, Not being funny but they are a bugger of a thing to have and can be brung on by straining the same as hernia.

Hi Ronnie,
Thanks for your input.
Hope to see you @ PRK on a good day soon
Cheers
Dean

robdog said...

Come on guys. Lighten up. You take things so seriously. Get out there and have a wave for me will ya. And be careful lifting heavy objects or you may end up on the beach like me, watching Brooko and mates rip it up, getting over the hernia op, which this thread was asking about in the first place.

Robdog I reckon you got yours lifting that big old Kalama to the back of the yard to make room for your quiver of psh boards

oliver said...

LSD said...

Hey Olie....I was about to apoint you as a pro rider for my boards......

Now that would be good to see - a line up of bald, fat over 40 team riders with go pro attachments. Forget Piros and his bevy of beauties. Let's give those US shareholders something that will really make them fondle their worry beads.

It's not so absurd. When you are aiming products at the general public then it's better to know what they think than the opinions of a few pampered pros.

I got several cheap and free kites from three manufacturers by giving them useful feedback that they weren't getting from their pro riders.

As a general public kind of rider, I want sub-10kg SUP in the bigger sizes.

The current crop of short boards from Naish and PSH are all plenty light enough to chuck under my arm and toddle off to the beach.

The 10-11' plus boards are heavy enough to cause me a sore shoulder after the 800 metre walk to the beach and it's enough of a discouragement to make me think twice about hauling the SUP out of the overhead rack.

The solution is to make the big boards lighter, and/or make the short boards stable enough that I can comfortably handle standing on them in chop waiting for wind-blown sets.

I think both solutions are doable. If you look at the JP web site a sailboard of similar volume to my Starboard weighs around 9kg.

hilly said...

Gorgo I think you are after 2 different things there, a heavy 9 2 will be better in wind chop. Sits below the surface and water on top makes it more stable. At 105kg+ rode one the other day in 15 knots+ and it was ok. Light board will bounce more.

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Are you talking about bounce when riding or bounce when standing around waiting for sets?

I've tried the Naish 9'6", PSH 9'6" Wide AA and 10' AA and they are light enough to carry around but not at all stable standing around in chop.

I'm not too fussed about length. I just want a SUP that it light enough to handle comfortably and be able to carry it the 800m to the beach without stuffing my shoulder in the process.

I don't understand why you think heavier is better - how does that work? Isn't it more about volume vrs weight of the rider. Weight of the board may have some advantages over durability but I don't think it has any other advantages.

If a board feels corky then you are too light for the volume of the board you are on.

If you have two identical boards, one with normal deck grip and one with a lead deck grip I'm sure the lighter one would perform much better in any conditions.

Hey Olie...I think you might develop a hernia trying to keep up with DJ's new down wind weapon....[}:)]
Hows your newie going, what size have you ordered?

LouD said...

I say thank goodness for some of the so called "self appointed experts". I'd much rather get advice from someone who has spent a great deal of his life in the ocean in one boardsport or another(eg. Hilly), than some of the kooks here that have all of 2-3 seasons under the belt in one watersport and now refer to themselves as watermen!(hilarious posting a while back. Pity it was deleted or edited!)

PS. No offence to SUP kooks. I am one myself!

And I

LSD said...

It appears that not many Hernias are caused buy standup paddling, (or lifting of heavy SUB's......a joke guy's)

I would even suggest SUP would tend to do the opposite, it may help prevent Hernia by strengthening core?

So......MYTH BUSTED?

Agreed.. Busted.. .. It does strengthen your core muscles.. I find that I can push harder now doing number twos........... Just kidding..

DJ