Just Wrong said...

agree, think it might be best to delete.

No way - don't delete it. It happened and it was a terrific story - the best ever read on the forum, by far. Journalism as we know it is dying and the story published today is testament to this fact.

Forget it, it's already being used to wrap tonight's fish and chips.

Let's stay out of the press for a bit hey?

If we quietly carry on doing our silly stuff without any press attention there's a much better chance we'll be left well alone.

When is Max Wells going to do something about regulating the jerkski tossers who endanger others. [}:)]

Bnaccas said...

Cosy said...

When is Max Wells going to do something about regulating the jerkski tossers who endanger others. [}:)]

Jetski's don't really fall under the Surfing Vic banner.
Either do SUP's on the bay but he has been doing what he can.

If there are more meetings to discuss the future of recreational SUP (on the PP Bay) then
I hope more of us will be able to support Max and give the sport a better presence/voice.

If SUP doesn't fall under Surfing Victoria's banner, then why are we expecting Max Wells to represent us? I don't know this bloke from Adam, but judging by his comments in this article (which admittedly are quite feasibly misrepresentative, taken out of context or not even his words!!!) however at face value, he doesn't appear overly sympathetic to SUP. Does anyone know whether he's for us or agin us?

Hey Woody,

I think Max's comments got the same treatment as the miss quote attributed to you.

He has also invited the VICSUP titles to fall under Surf Vic again this year without his support it simply would not happen.

He takes input from local crew like lummers etc and always gives a fair hearing from what I have experienced.

I know for fact that he has been working with Marine Safety since approx Mar 2009 to keep self regulation in place as this came up in our OG 13 meetings.

That was also why the OG 13 Event had to have formal hazard managment, water support on hand, fully drafted emergency plan, local consultation with community groups, land managers and retailers etc.

Until we dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's he would not allow it to go ahead and rightly so. As we had 9 retailers involved + volunteer groups no one company could cover insurance for the event.

Max worked with us and the underwriters to get it through Surf Vic. He even gave up his time for the day to come to supervise the event so we did not have to employ staff as he covered off 3 major roles required by the undewriters.

He really didnt have to help us out at all!

PTWoody said...

FFS. I'm clearly not brady.

You're upset!?! What about me! I missed my chance to shine in a quality, well-balanced, tabloid beat up!

PTWoody said...

If SUP doesn't fall under Surfing Victoria's banner, then why are we expecting Max Wells to represent us? I don't know this bloke from Adam, but judging by his comments in this article (which admittedly are quite feasibly misrepresentative, taken out of context or not even his words!!!) however at face value, he doesn't appear overly sympathetic to SUP. Does anyone know whether he's for us or agin us?

Pretty sure I met Max supping in Inverloch. (is it the same one I'm thinking about?)

Hey Woody,

When it comes to DW on PPB maybe he isnt, his interests would be purely surf as thats what he deals with. My point is Max isnt against SUP by a long stretch.

I was told last year that canoe associations were looking at annexing DW type activites in Vicco.

Maybe they will.

PTWoody said...

Cool, thanks Phil. Sounds like Max is our man.

And shocked and stunned that the alleged journalist responsible appears to have made yet another Media Watch worthy entry in this one article.

mikeman said...

What still worries me here is that some of these guys are still not prepared to admit that what they tried was stupid and badly prepared. Thanks to this group we might all have to cop it with regulation from the authorities.

I would suggest that you read the post "Safety Recommendations for Downwind Paddles" and actually start adopting some of these recommendations.

DJ has already given positive feedback so this is really good news. This means that we are getting somewhere.

You all got lucky this time. Don't disrespect the sea as next time you might not get away with it.

Mikeman, I'm sure everyone appreciates your well considered and constructive thread regarding safety measures. I know for certain that I do. However I don't understand what your point is in the above post. You admit that DJ has acknowledged your thread with positive feedback. So what more do you need? If you're expecting or even demanding the other participants in the ill-fated bay crossing to acknowledge your thread with the requisite humility implied, then I suggest you may have slipped a little from your initial purpose.

5 - 10 years ago while working with music festivals, we started to get approached by building unions etc about OHS on the site. Our response was to formulate our own OHS guidelines, that were specific to what we did - ie set up and break down a site. It took a number of years, but I think it's a whole lot better in the long run as we are not being dictated to by unions that really don't understand what it is we do.

The point I'm trying to make is that maybe the SUP clubs should start to formulate their own policies/rules/codes for these type of activities - that way, when other associations attempt to blanket us with some form of regulations, that may not be relevant to what we do, we are in a better position to deflect them by arguing that we already have our own code of practice in place.

I'm far from being an expert on these things, but mikeman has made some excellent suggestions and I personally think that formulating some guidelines on the SUPvic website, for example, on downwinders as being proactive step. Similar has been posted on this page: www.supvic.com/buysell/

Hi guys,
What a pickle.
I've got an outdoors column in a new Melbourne magazine. I would like to do a story on SUP.
Angle will be SUP to burn calories and strengthen core. Rest of the story will list how to get into the sport
Give me a call.
Most of you know me and know that a story i write usually comes out how it is intended.
send me an email [email protected]
Ideal person would be someone who sups with a personal training or health background.
Ideal time for me is Friday morning.

cheers
George

oliver said...

5 - 10 years ago while working with music festivals, we started to get approached by building unions etc about OHS on the site. Our response was to formulate our own OHS guidelines, that were specific to what we did - ie set up and break down a site. It took a number of years, but I think it's a whole lot better in the long run as we are not being dictated to by unions that really don't understand what it is we do.

The point I'm trying to make is that maybe the SUP clubs should start to formulate their own policies/rules/codes for these type of activities - that way, when other associations attempt to blanket us with some form of regulations, that may not be relevant to what we do, we are in a better position to deflect them by arguing that we already have our own code of practice in place.

I'm far from being an expert on these things, but mikeman has made some excellent suggestions and I personally think that formulating some guidelines on the SUPvic website, for example, on downwinders as being proactive step. Similar has been posted on this page: www.supvic.com/buysell/

Totally agree.