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What's your ideal volume ratio?

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Created by benjl 4 months ago, 12 Mar 2018
hilly
WA, 4219 posts
1 Jul 2018 6:18PM
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MattBailey said..
well I'm 97Kg, when i was 100-102 rode my Fanatic Prowave at 104L. Fortnight ago i thought i'd see how far i could push it and bought a cheap-ie JP pro 7'4 X 27 @90 litres. Whilst i cant really wait around out the back all day (if I cannot see something immediately when getting out the back, I just sit down on the board and wait), I rarely miss a wave when they come through. BUT MAN does it surf....

So board is 6Kg (with fins, tail pad, wax and leggy - not bad), I'd be say 98 wet plus paddle on 90l, puts me around 0.87 factor.

Its certainly not easy, but its certainly not impossible. Back to the topic at hand - its all about what you want from your surfing... I think there's so much talk about weight Plus 'X' (like no less than 1.2) that a lot of people don't think its possible and therefore don't show the lower volume the patience they need to actually get used to it... because it certainly takes some time, you just need the desire to see it through.


Done 0.9 a few times. Constant paddling got me down. On the wave brilliant, paddling no probs. Stopped not good, sit then hard to quickly stand. If I was younger very doable I think.

Frothn
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1 Jul 2018 10:18PM
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MattBailey said..
well I'm 97Kg, when i was 100-102 rode my Fanatic Prowave at 104L. Fortnight ago i thought i'd see how far i could push it and bought a cheap-ie JP pro 7'4 X 27 @90 litres. Whilst i cant really wait around out the back all day (if I cannot see something immediately when getting out the back, I just sit down on the board and wait), I rarely miss a wave when they come through. BUT MAN does it surf....

So board is 6Kg (with fins, tail pad, wax and leggy - not bad), I'd be say 98 wet plus paddle on 90l, puts me around 0.87 factor.

Its certainly not easy, but its certainly not impossible. Back to the topic at hand - its all about what you want from your surfing... I think there's so much talk about weight Plus 'X' (like no less than 1.2) that a lot of people don't think its possible and therefore don't show the lower volume the patience they need to actually get used to it... because it certainly takes some time, you just need the desire to see it through.


Matt how tall are you ??

colas
2585 posts
2 Jul 2018 1:40PM
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On the other hand, yesterday I took my small wave board (6'10" x 31" x 125 liters), as the buoys were showing weak conditions: 1'-2', 7s period. But the sets quickly became quite powerful, a good head high with at least 10s period, and the peak was focusing efficiently the swell.

My board had too much width and volume for the conditions. Normally I would be on my 7'3" x 29.5" x 105 board for my 100kg. But I was lazy, didn't feel like taking the long walk on the sand to the van, so I stayed on my too voluminous board. And after some technique adjustments (akin to riding a twin fin), I actually had a blast! Volume has advantages, the added speed on open face surfing and carving can be exhilarating. Rail turns especially: with the volume, the rail does not dig very deep, so with the proper gear (well shaped rail + big twin fins so that the rail does not move sideways and lose speed) and technique (try to use a longer length of the rail), you actually can do rail turns with a wetted surface smaller than a foil, with the feeling of being on rollercoaster rails with no drag. The speed on fast sections was intoxicating.

Of course, I would have been better on a smaller board, and able to engage more easily and safer in turns. There is no question. But some volume is not all bad, it has also some advantages.

MattBailey
NSW, 22 posts
2 Jul 2018 4:52PM
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Frothn said..

MattBailey said..
well I'm 97Kg, when i was 100-102 rode my Fanatic Prowave at 104L. Fortnight ago i thought i'd see how far i could push it and bought a cheap-ie JP pro 7'4 X 27 @90 litres. Whilst i cant really wait around out the back all day (if I cannot see something immediately when getting out the back, I just sit down on the board and wait), I rarely miss a wave when they come through. BUT MAN does it surf....

So board is 6Kg (with fins, tail pad, wax and leggy - not bad), I'd be say 98 wet plus paddle on 90l, puts me around 0.87 factor.

Its certainly not easy, but its certainly not impossible. Back to the topic at hand - its all about what you want from your surfing... I think there's so much talk about weight Plus 'X' (like no less than 1.2) that a lot of people don't think its possible and therefore don't show the lower volume the patience they need to actually get used to it... because it certainly takes some time, you just need the desire to see it through.



Matt how tall are you ??


179cm - Captain average LOL

Kami
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2 Jul 2018 8:43PM
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MattBailey said..

Frothn said..


MattBailey said..
well I'm 97Kg, when i was 100-102 rode my Fanatic Prowave at 104L. Fortnight ago i thought i'd see how far i could push it and bought a cheap-ie JP pro 7'4 X 27 @90 litres. Whilst i cant really wait around out the back all day (if I cannot see something immediately when getting out the back, I just sit down on the board and wait), I rarely miss a wave when they come through. BUT MAN does it surf....

So board is 6Kg (with fins, tail pad, wax and leggy - not bad), I'd be say 98 wet plus paddle on 90l, puts me around 0.87 factor.

Its certainly not easy, but its certainly not impossible. Back to the topic at hand - its all about what you want from your surfing... I think there's so much talk about weight Plus 'X' (like no less than 1.2) that a lot of people don't think its possible and therefore don't show the lower volume the patience they need to actually get used to it... because it certainly takes some time, you just need the desire to see it through.




Matt how tall are you ??



179cm - Captain average LOL


MattBailey, you are showing the good way here...thank you.



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