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oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
13 May 2010 8:14pm
www.theage.com.au/environment/conservation/two-face-charges-over-alleged-removal-of-whale-bones-20100513-uzfz.html

This whale has fascinated me. I still see people surfing out from Cyrils. The water must have a right baity taste too it now. When I first saw it washed up - maybe a month ago - it looked much more impressive. At the time I had a thought of bringing a chainsaw down and getting a memento - maybe a big fat blue whale tooth. Had no idea it was highly illegal - that's the nanny state for ya.
PTWoody
PTWoody
VIC
3982 posts
VIC, 3982 posts
13 May 2010 10:29pm
I personally wouldn't go near for simple health reasons but I also don't quite understand what the problem is with anyone who chooses to interfere with this dead lump of flesh and bones. Not like touching it is going to make it dead-er. And especially as these clowns won't get off their collective arses to remove it to make the beach safe for families. And if the museum wants to experiment on the bones, why aren't they down there cutting it up?
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
13 May 2010 11:25pm
Wow - I would have imagined it was fair game as it was already dead but I guess not:

www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/vic/consol_act/wa197593/s47.html

A person must not buy, sell, acquire, receive, dispose of, keep, possess,
control, breed, process, display, take samples from or experiment on other
protected wildlife.
oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
13 May 2010 10:11pm
I also learnt this today: www.theage.com.au/national/rat-lungworm-fear-after-slugeating-dare-20100513-uzpj.html

Lot's of interesting learning today.
PTWoody
PTWoody
VIC
3982 posts
VIC, 3982 posts
14 May 2010 12:11am
GalahOnTheBay said...

Wow - I would have imagined it was fair game as it was already dead but I guess not:

www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/vic/consol_act/wa197593/s47.html

A person must not buy, sell, acquire, receive, dispose of, keep, possess,
control, breed, process, display, take samples from or experiment on other
protected wildlife.



So if a B-Double collects a 'roo out on the highway, the driver isn't allowed to pull the carcass from the grill and dispose of it? What, he has to let it decompose wrapped around the bull bar? Madness.
aussiefreebs
aussiefreebs
VIC
228 posts
VIC, 228 posts
14 May 2010 9:06am
Oh wow, this is angered me this morning. What a croc of faecal matter. I have never been a fan of anyone who sits on their high horse barking orders and rules at those below them, but this is ridiculous. How can it be that it is illegal to take anything, but it is fine for it to lay there rotting for what could be months. PTWoody you summed it up perfectly, where the hell are these 'authorities', why aren't they down there collecting the remains.

I wonder if there was a shark attack OR an outbreak of some sort of infection in the local community, if those same alleged 'authorities' would claim any sort of responsibility?
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
14 May 2010 12:23pm
Someone should point that out to the Japs.....
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
14 May 2010 11:32am
PTWoody said...

GalahOnTheBay said...

Wow - I would have imagined it was fair game as it was already dead but I guess not:

www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/vic/consol_act/wa197593/s47.html

A person must not buy, sell, acquire, receive, dispose of, keep, possess,
control, breed, process, display, take samples from or experiment on other
protected wildlife.



So if a B-Double collects a 'roo out on the highway, the driver isn't allowed to pull the carcass from the grill and dispose of it? What, he has to let it decompose wrapped around the bull bar? Madness.


Roos arnt protected I dont think.
rez
rez
WA
354 posts
rez rez
WA, 354 posts
14 May 2010 12:01pm

It isn't every day a blue whale washes up dead. I would say it is a rare opportunity for researchers to take samples. This one looks small- a calf? Probably trying to figure out why it died.

Also if they do plan to keep the skeleton I would say they are figuring out the logistics. Things like- How and where would we clean bones covered in decomposing flesh of that size? How do we transport a rotting carcass? Do we chop it up? Can we get a dump truck on the beach? What do we do with the 100's of kg of flesh? Is it better to let nature help us decompose most of it before we move it?

Then there is the government red tape- all the paperwork that need to be signed off on.

There have been a lot of whale calf's turning up dead over here. Once sampling is done they are usually buried under the beach. I helped a friend and dolphin research scientist put a dolphin in the freeze and that was an ordeal...let alone a whale.



aussiefreebs
aussiefreebs
VIC
228 posts
VIC, 228 posts
14 May 2010 2:56pm
Just my opinion, but I was really peeved when I read about the charges.

The authorities shouldn't be able to just leave this one on the beach. Many of us have joked about this for some time, since we first saw it. If authorities are going to be able to charge someone with taking bones, they should wear some responsibility aswell, for letting it sit there. Its sitting on a well used beach, it's not cordoned off, there are houses at the top of the hill, and during high tide parts of it enter the water.

I would imagine that the locals and regulars to Flinders would be more annoyed than I.
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