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Souwester
Souwester
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15 Mar 2010 9:43am
Everytime I score good waves on my F/B something bad happens. I have been more careful than ever before not to do anything silly with it of late (late take-offs, nosedives etc....) but no matter what I do it always seems to happen.

After I headbutted the board a few weeks ago I learnt my lesson, pick the right wave and have a bit of patience. Rocked up to the beach this morning and it was smoking. Head high sets and a really good bank, good tide and next to no wind.

As I paddled out I was watching the big sets roll in and wind down the bank and thinking this is the perfect time to try out the patience thing. And thats what I did, picked off the good shaped sets, had a couple of fudged takeoffs but nothing dramatic. I had a few long lefts to the beach and then I ended up chasing the rights that were a little faster but with a good end section.

Managed a few and got a couple of really good clean floaters of the end, rode them out and paddled out without incident, was totally stoked with how it was all going. Decided to paddle in to get to work on time and thats when I discovered a previous crease which I was advised was not strucural had flexed again and cracked along the crease and the rail where it had been originally fixed up. Not sure what to do will take it to the shop to get an opinion and go from there, devo though cos the waves are gonna be good and I now have to jump on the shorterboard and struggle all over again
obct
obct
NSW
3487 posts
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15 Mar 2010 1:23pm
What a rotten run you're having

Your luck is bound to change soon

At least when it's working, it sounds like it's a good'n

The closest I ever come to pulling off a floater is if I eat too much fibre.





62mac
62mac
WA
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15 Mar 2010 11:47am
Your an animal Souwester, bloody floaters in head high stuff
Take the board back and tell them you were told at point of sale
the crease was sound and ask for some compensation
Souwester
Souwester
WA
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15 Mar 2010 12:25pm
Ha ha the floaters were on the smaller sets but were still good fun, it was good to land them and ride the wash out, beats falling off on the way down. Good shaped head high ones were few and far between they were there I was just always in the wrong spot so didnt risk it. Geez landing a head high floater would prob contribute to creasing it but even then is that still in the parameters of what is considered normal force for a board to be able to put up with?

Wont be seeking any compensation as I have been told before that its not a defect just one of those things. Looks like I will just have to wear it. Might email McTavish anyway and ask them what they think. So looks like an epoxy is the way to go now If a f/glass one is gonna do that regardless of wether its considered my fault or not.
62mac
62mac
WA
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15 Mar 2010 1:05pm
Gee, if your surfing head high and smashing floaters go for a triple stringer.
obct
obct
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15 Mar 2010 4:08pm
Have you tried an epoxy like a tuflite?

I love them and won't ride anything else but then I'm not much good and when it boils down, my main reason for liking them is because I can catch waves easier, but there's a lot of people who hate them.

Any chance you could try before you buy?
Souwester
Souwester
WA
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15 Mar 2010 2:07pm
Yeah I like the look of the new epoxys, they are so light and apparently tough as nails. I just put it back in the shop, wasnt to expensive to get it fixed so just have to suck it up.

Just really want to know if its me or the board? McTavish have a big rep as bieng quality boards and wouldnt want to tarnish that but creasing a 9'6 in medium size beachbreak waves sounds a littel odd?

The new Tuflites are supposed to be pretty good for performance especially the southpoint Bonga ones. I have my beginner board which is a NSP epoxy, was good to start on and tough but a little heavy and prob needs better fins in better waves. They have come a lng waysince then though and so has the price

62mac
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WA
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15 Mar 2010 4:20pm
If Billboards out there, he may wish to have a input to this topic
asea
asea
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15 Mar 2010 8:13pm
hi,i had a southpoint bonga model and it surfed great, but after hearing and then doing some research i quickly took my bonga while it was in one piece and had no creases to the local boardshop and traded it.After saying that it is up to you.
billboard
billboard
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15 Mar 2010 8:35pm
Hmmm just came across this very interesting topic !!! Firstly I think whomever told you a crease was not structural may have been making a big call. How the hell can any impact on the glass or core not be structural ??
Secondly - I am a huge tuflite fan but be warned - I have seen many more tuflites break than I have seen pu boards (by a long shot) they are very very tough and stand up to minor dings and depressions but I do not believe that they are going to stand up to everyday wipeouts any better. Also the southpoint bongas are not tuflite - they are a different construction altogether and if you don't want to break boards then DO NOT buy southpoint bongas. Dont get me wrong they are great surfing boards but I have personally seen more bongas creased and snapped than any other board - short or long.
If you love Mctavishs and you like to surf hard then you should talk to the boys at McT and think very seriously about either a razar triple stringer or even a F4 or UFO.(I'd go razar triple) Tell the boys the board is gunna get flogged and it has to stand up - they will accomodate you for sure. If you ring McT on a thurs/fri talk to Greg T - he is the high performance guy that you need to talk to there for no b/s advice about the best board to suit your needs.

Sorry if I dribbled on a bit.
62mac
62mac
WA
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15 Mar 2010 7:08pm
Great stuff Billboard, good advice re the triple stringer


Sample of x team rider going nuts on a triple stringer

Agree with everything Billboard said and no I am not p-ssing
in ya pocket BB
Souwester
Souwester
WA
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15 Mar 2010 11:06pm
Great advice guys, triple stringer sounds good. Until I can afford a new board will stick with the F/B it does surf really well just seems prone to damage (most self inflicted )

Til I get it back have to try my hardest on the mini mal, should help my paddling if anything

Just read the specs on the Razar, sounds really full on!

62mac
62mac
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16 Mar 2010 7:42am
And sharp as,my new weapon



Souwester
Souwester
WA
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16 Mar 2010 9:15am
Looks nice Mac, is it noseride-able? I had a poor surf on the mini-mal this morning, more to do with the conditions. Will take me most of the week to get used to it then I will get the F/B back!
62mac
62mac
WA
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16 Mar 2010 10:04am
Not for me mate at 95 kegs,its pure performance
doggie
doggie
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16 Mar 2010 11:44am
62mac said...

Not for me mate at 95 kegs,its pure performance


Get a 6,2 and have some fun
62mac
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16 Mar 2010 12:45pm
doggie
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16 Mar 2010 1:02pm
62mac
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16 Mar 2010 1:14pm
doggie
doggie
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16 Mar 2010 1:31pm
[}:)]
62mac
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16 Mar 2010 1:40pm
now stop it
Souwester
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16 Mar 2010 1:51pm
Ha ha sorry to interrupt your smile off guys but can a Razar be ridden on the nose? Looks pointy, does that matter?
obct
obct
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16 Mar 2010 5:08pm
"can a razar be ridden on the nose?"

Yes, however most people try to use a deodorant before paddling out
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
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16 Mar 2010 4:28pm
Souwester said...

Ha ha sorry to interrupt your smile off guys but can a Razar be ridden on the nose? Looks pointy, does that matter?


In all honesty most mals can be nose ridden if you have the skill and the right wave - however there are much better noseriding boards than the razar although it goes ok up front. The razar is not the board you would purchase if you are looking for any real form of traditional longboarding - it is a 9ft + psychokiller of a board that will give you the best or worst day of your life depending on how much respect you give it. I personally love this board and to give you an idea of just how jeckyll and hyde these things are: About 4 years ago I won a local club comp on a razar in less than 1ft clean dribble on currumbin beach and a month later surfed the same board in triple overhead surf north of coffs harbour and had a blast on both occasions and never got in any trouble at all in the big stuff. I have however surfed the same board at 2ft currumbin alley and been smashed because I just could not control the board in a slow crumbly sectioning wave ?? go figure. I am no expert trust me and this is just my own personal thoughts and experience.
Bill.
billboard
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16 Mar 2010 4:29pm
Oh yeah one more thing

Love you mac - and I agree with everything you say about everything I say.
doggie
doggie
WA
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16 Mar 2010 2:48pm
62mac said...

now stop it


doggie
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16 Mar 2010 2:50pm
billboard said...

Oh yeah one more thing

Love you mac - and I agree with everything you say about everything I say.



Thats a bit broke back mountain guys
Souwester
Souwester
WA
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16 Mar 2010 3:33pm
billboard said...

Souwester said...

Ha ha sorry to interrupt your smile off guys but can a Razar be ridden on the nose? Looks pointy, does that matter?


In all honesty most mals can be nose ridden if you have the skill and the right wave - however there are much better noseriding boards than the razar although it goes ok up front. The razar is not the board you would purchase if you are looking for any real form of traditional longboarding - it is a 9ft + psychokiller of a board that will give you the best or worst day of your life depending on how much respect you give it. I personally love this board and to give you an idea of just how jeckyll and hyde these things are: About 4 years ago I won a local club comp on a razar in less than 1ft clean dribble on currumbin beach and a month later surfed the same board in triple overhead surf north of coffs harbour and had a blast on both occasions and never got in any trouble at all in the big stuff. I have however surfed the same board at 2ft currumbin alley and been smashed because I just could not control the board in a slow crumbly sectioning wave ?? go figure. I am no expert trust me and this is just my own personal thoughts and experience.
Bill.


Cheers Bill, plenty of food for thought. I have emailed McTavish to ask their opinion on the F/B crease, I really do like the board have surfed it in fast and slow waves and always pulls through with ease. Maybe should just get a F/B made with triple stringer next. I will keep surfing the F/B til it snaps then think about another board
billboard
billboard
QLD
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16 Mar 2010 8:40pm
Hey SW - the real beauty of the fireball which you have probably already discovered, is that you can use all that nose weight to drag you outta trouble. Once you have mastered it you can set the board up, say on a big top turn to just use the weight as momentum to drag you over and around and complete your turns. A lot of people s/can the fireball because of the big nose on such a performance board but they just don't know how to use the big nose to their advantage. I rode a 9'6 fireball for a long time and it was the first mal I ever got a full stand up barrel on - and that was only half skill- the fireball is just so safe and predictable and bloody quick when you have to drive it out of trouble. In my humble opinion Mctavish should perhaps bring out a similar model to the fireball with a little less nose area but not too much less and keep all the other good fireball bits. I also believe that they should go back to the pre-evolution shape because I reckon they have now over-rockered the board (for my liking). The fireball is the fireball and is perhaps the greatest longboard ever made and as an allrounder for all size surf and all levels of ability there is probably no better board on the planet.
billboard
billboard
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16 Mar 2010 8:42pm
doggie said...

billboard said...

Oh yeah one more thing

Love you mac - and I agree with everything you say about everything I say.



Thats a bit broke back mountain guys


Hey doggie - sorry about that. It must be the stand up paddler in me coming out. I am working on minimizing the amount of manlove in my day now that I am back surfing for real again.
62mac
62mac
WA
24860 posts
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16 Mar 2010 7:22pm
billboard said...

Oh yeah one more thing

Love you mac - and I agree with everything you say about everything I say.



Well we never did earlier,maybe I am eating humble pie but you are a wealth of
knowledge which I am all ears too
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