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Twin on midlength.

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Created by WindNoob 5 months ago, 10 Sep 2019
Hydromann
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Friday , 14 Feb 2020 3:10PM
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Maybe I'll use this?









Macaha
QLD, 19760 posts
Friday , 14 Feb 2020 5:56PM
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Sorry kind of tells me there is a issue is the board that bad ?

thedrip
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Friday , 14 Feb 2020 4:55PM
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Cuttlefish said..
The weekend warrior is a force to be reckoned with.
With great amounts of foam comes great responsibility!


I only take the biggest and the best waves. Everyone else can fight for my crumbs.

Hydromann
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Friday , 14 Feb 2020 8:53PM
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Macaha said..
Sorry kind of tells me there is a issue is the board that bad ?


Nah no issue with the board. It's ridden nice with any number of combos, except 2+1. Don't think I had that set up quite right.

Just trying to figure out what to try next with the twins, mostly indecision on my part and crap waves to get any real feel for it.

We can't all live in Bali or Qld.

laceys lane
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Saturday , 15 Feb 2020 7:24AM
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Macaha said..
Sorry kind of tells me there is a issue is the board that bad ?


I would listen to mac.
He has the experience.
He has a resume of twenty odd 9.6 red black and white evo 2's with the 07 rocker . All of them sold quickly
He knows a bad board when he sees one !!!!
Let him guide you

Hydromann
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Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 5:27AM
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laceys lane said..


Macaha said..
Sorry kind of tells me there is a issue is the board that bad ?




I would listen to mac.
He has the experience.
He has a resume of twenty odd 9.6 red black and white evo 2's with the 07 rocker . All of them sold quickly
He knows a bad board when he sees one !!!!
Let him guide you



Nah I'll let the board speak for itself. If nothing else it will give me a datum to work from.

Gave the fins a crack yesterday.

Mmmmm not so sure. Tried a few different positions and no sweet spot.

Locked the board up too much with the trailer. Small mushy waves don't help either.

Got frustrated and pulled it off and ran with pure twin setup.

Transformed instantly, faster zippier, was more responsive in the less than amazing conditions.

The CJet rides best for me as a twin or quad. I really liked the feel and grip of the cheap MODII twins, might get a decent set of trailers to run a semi quad and see how the affects her in bigger water.

I'm starting to get the feel from it that will suit the style of surfing I want. Think Torren flow but a lot less snap.

Holding a line on the lip and dropping into the bottom to build speed and line up for a cutback.

All I need are the waves to complete that dream.

Hydromann
142 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 5:38AM
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Has anyone tried a large set of twins like these on a mid length?

www.sanctumsurf.com.au/large-twin-flex-tip

I really like the look of these but apparently too much load for the twin tab base FCS.

Cuttlefish
QLD, 974 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 9:22AM
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Fresh midlength 7'6".
Lots of fin options.
Took it for a run in lazy 2'ers this morning.
Paddles and catches waves great and turns easier than any midlength I've owned.










Nice double concave bottom.

laceys lane
QLD, 19005 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 10:43AM
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Cuttlefish said..
Fresh midlength 7'6".
Lots of fin options.
Took it for a run in lazy 2'ers this morning.
Paddles and catches waves great and turns easier than any midlength I've owned.










Nice double concave bottom.


Dont hold out. What fins are they

Cuttlefish
QLD, 974 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 11:59AM
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laceys lane said..

Cuttlefish said..
Fresh midlength 7'6".
Lots of fin options.
Took it for a run in lazy 2'ers this morning.
Paddles and catches waves great and turns easier than any midlength I've owned.










Nice double concave bottom.



Dont hold out. What fins are they


They be the Sanctum twins Hydroman was just asking about.

Hydromann
142 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 10:56AM
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Wow thanks Cuttlefish.

Looking at that hull form it is almost identical to the Wombat / CJet. Nice nose concave graduating into a double exist and slight vee. Rail shape are hardness looks very similar as well with the main difference being the rounded pin vs. the square on mine and a very slight double channel either side of the main box.

Those Sanctums look meaty, by that I mean big. Would give you pivot and holding power all in one package.

Do they flex out a bit much and release? Or do they hold and give a nice little kick when they spring back?

Damn shame they don't do them in a twin tab. Still I'm very impressed with the MODII set I got, but when I dropped into a backhand hollow the would hold then slide, grab, hold then slide again, just need a little more bite to them whilst still giving the nice pivot.

I'm toying with the Sanctum micro biters as trailers or leaders depending on the holding power I need.

www.sanctumsurf.com.au/micro-bites-side-fins-fcs

Hydromann
142 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 10:57AM
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I wonder how hard it would be to fit a couple of futures boxes in place of the FCS plugs?

Cuttlefish
QLD, 974 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 1:34PM
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Hydromann said..
Wow thanks Cuttlefish.

Looking at that hull form it is almost identical to the Wombat / CJet. Nice nose concave graduating into a double exist and slight vee. Rail shape are hardness looks very similar as well with the main difference being the rounded pin vs. the square on mine and a very slight double channel either side of the main box.

Those Sanctums look meaty, by that I mean big. Would give you pivot and holding power all in one package.

Do they flex out a bit much and release? Or do they hold and give a nice little kick when they spring back?

Damn shame they don't do them in a twin tab. Still I'm very impressed with the MODII set I got, but when I dropped into a backhand hollow the would hold then slide, grab, hold then slide again, just need a little more bite to them whilst still giving the nice pivot.

I'm toying with the Sanctum micro biters as trailers or leaders depending on the holding power I need.

www.sanctumsurf.com.au/micro-bites-side-fins-fcs


When its only small they are just giving a nice carvey feel. Waves were full and soft so no instances of hold and release as I was just doing take off fades and minor cutbacks with floaters and trimming across dead spots. I will probably pick up a set of their quad trailers from Sanctum and one of those trailers that fit in the single box as well soon.
Looks to be 4-5' waves on offer by this coming weekend so may order them soon to get them before then.
I have plenty of other fin options to run anyway.
Christenson quad set. K2 keels. 2+1 set up.
The twins were so loose and fun though.

Macaha
QLD, 19760 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 1:59PM
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I think LACEY has another login account

Hydromann
142 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 12:05PM
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Cuttlefish said..

Hydromann said..
Wow thanks Cuttlefish.

Looking at that hull form it is almost identical to the Wombat / CJet. Nice nose concave graduating into a double exist and slight vee. Rail shape are hardness looks very similar as well with the main difference being the rounded pin vs. the square on mine and a very slight double channel either side of the main box.

Those Sanctums look meaty, by that I mean big. Would give you pivot and holding power all in one package.

Do they flex out a bit much and release? Or do they hold and give a nice little kick when they spring back?

Damn shame they don't do them in a twin tab. Still I'm very impressed with the MODII set I got, but when I dropped into a backhand hollow the would hold then slide, grab, hold then slide again, just need a little more bite to them whilst still giving the nice pivot.

I'm toying with the Sanctum micro biters as trailers or leaders depending on the holding power I need.

www.sanctumsurf.com.au/micro-bites-side-fins-fcs



When its only small they are just giving a nice carvey feel. Waves were full and soft so no instances of hold and release as I was just doing take off fades and minor cutbacks with floaters and trimming across dead spots. I will probably pick up a set of their quad trailers from Sanctum and one of those trailers that fit in the single box as well soon.
Looks to be 4-5' waves on offer by this coming weekend so may order them soon to get them before then.
I have plenty of other fin options to run anyway.
Christenson quad set. K2 keels. 2+1 set up.
The twins were so loose and fun though.


Yeah noticed that with the MODII twins, gutless waves that where essentially wind breaking mush and I was still able to punch it up into mush floaters. Not a lot of drive in them so you really needed to work with what you had from the wave, given the skinny profile not really surprised on the drive, not a lot of foil there to give much lift and forward motion.

Was thinking that some slightly thicker foiled trailers might give it a bit more squirt from lift generated.

If there was one thing that I could change in my board it would be to have a swallow tail. Still I could hack one in if I really wanted, would only be a fairly shallow one but I reckon it would make a bit of difference.

One last question Cuttlefish, have you ever ridden any of your mids with the trailers forward and the twin trailing, kinda like a twinzer but without the exact proximity of the fins to each other?

I'm short on coin so I'm going to refoil the plastic 4" fins supplied by SBWH down to the same profile as the micro bites and have a crack at them in different setup's.

Hydromann
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Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 1:23PM
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Macaha said..
I think LACEY has another login account


Hey Macaha didn't you once own a Wombat MKII? Think I saw some history here somewhere with you singing it's praises?

Could be a case of mistaken identity on my part though.

Hydromann
142 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 2:03PM
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Twins with stabilisers, forecast 2m swell tomorrow so hopefully I can give it a decent bash.







Cuttlefish
QLD, 974 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 5:52PM
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I would adjust that template and give them more of a refined tip so that they will release rather than be purely rudders.
Re: trailers forward and main fins back...only with bonzer siderunners as the forward fins rather than a more conventional sidebite.
It's board dependent on what I use.
Oh...and your lawn is a disgrace.

thedrip
WA, 2154 posts
Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 5:00PM
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Hydromann said..
I wonder how hard it would be to fit a couple of futures boxes in place of the FCS plugs?


Gets done a fair bit. Not hard at all, but then you have to start collecting a new fin library. FCSII might be a better bet as FCS still fit them.

Hydromann
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Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 6:08PM
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Cuttlefish said..
I would adjust that template and give them more of a refined tip so that they will release rather than be purely rudders.
Re: trailers forward and main fins back...only with bonzer siderunners as the forward fins rather than a more conventional sidebite.
It's board dependent on what I use.
Oh...and your lawn is a disgrace.


Cheers cuttlefish, thinking I'll have a crack at them with the same shape as the Sanctums first. If they don't do it for me then I'll take to them with the grinder again.

Besides they are significantly smaller than the rears I was using my in quad setup, and they felt good.

BTW that's bluemetal not grass, unless I'm missing some sort of joke? Them it's the most neglected, weed out nfested, dog trampled lawn that exists.

Hydromann
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Sunday , 16 Feb 2020 6:10PM
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thedrip said..

Hydromann said..
I wonder how hard it would be to fit a couple of futures boxes in place of the FCS plugs?



Gets done a fair bit. Not hard at all, but then you have to start collecting a new fin library. FCSII might be a better bet as FCS still fit them.


Yeah checked it out on the tube. Just to want a single in front of existings to play with placement or maybe run a skeg triple tab.

Hydromann
142 posts
Monday , 17 Feb 2020 10:30AM
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What an absolute ripper the twins with stabilisers are.

Likely had some of the best waves of my life and the board performed flawlessly with this fin set up.

Great hold and an awesome flow to it. I can't throw it around like Beau Young but I had a blast.

Twins / quads are awesome if you perserve and dial in the right ones.

laceys lane
QLD, 19005 posts
Monday , 17 Feb 2020 2:39PM
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Mac will be relieved

chrispy
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Monday , 17 Feb 2020 1:03PM
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Hydromann said..
What an absolute ripper the twins with stabilisers are.

Likely had some of the best waves of my life and the board performed flawlessly with this fin set up.

Great hold and an awesome flow to it. I can't throw it around like Beau Young but I had a blast.

Twins / quads are awesome if you perserve and dial in the right ones.


Bahahaha twins with stabilisers, really ?

Funny as i always thought four fins in a board was a quad

Things you learn...palm hitting forehead

Hydromann
142 posts
Monday , 17 Feb 2020 1:52PM
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chrispy said..

Hydromann said..
What an absolute ripper the twins with stabilisers are.

Likely had some of the best waves of my life and the board performed flawlessly with this fin set up.

Great hold and an awesome flow to it. I can't throw it around like Beau Young but I had a blast.

Twins / quads are awesome if you perserve and dial in the right ones.



Bahahaha twins with stabilisers, really ?

Funny as i always thought four fins in a board was a quad

Things you learn...palm hitting forehead


Yeah would think the same.

Mostly for explanation of the fin types used, not really your normal quad sizes hey.

But for the purists it's a quad, just a different type of quad setup.

So Chrispy what if I now change things up for tomorrows surf and put the micro bites at the front and the twins at the back?

Is that a Quad, Twinzer, or a Bonzer?

And what if I then put in a stabilizer? Is that a twin with micros and a stabiliser? Or a Quad with a stabilizer? Or a Twinzer or a Bonzer with a stabiliser?

Aren't Twins with stabilisers tri's?

I wouldn't want to get it wrong just in case you need to keep hitting your head

Maybe you could help out and give us all a clear definition of all the different fin arrangements and their terminologies?

P.S just messin with ya.

Hydromann
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Monday , 17 Feb 2020 1:59PM
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laceys lane said..
Mac will be relieved


Yeah right, I can see him cracking a coldie and sayin,

Damn boy you finally figured it out. If only you took my word for everything as gospel truth from the get go and spent 3 times the coin for the same result.

Damn boy you is slow.

Maybe I should thank him in advance hey?

Hey Mac, just takin the piss, had a great surf today and feeling a bit happy.

Macaha
QLD, 19760 posts
Monday , 17 Feb 2020 4:32PM
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laceys lane said..
Mac will be relieved


Leave me out of this I'm collector and don't give a rats rear end if a board works, if it red white and black it's truly a thing of beauty

Al G
NSW, 6953 posts
Monday , 17 Feb 2020 6:05PM
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Macaha said..


laceys lane said..
Mac will be relieved




Leave me out of this I'm collector and don't give a rats rear end if a board works, if it red white and black it's truly a thing of beauty



I think you mean Blue and Yellow

laceys lane
QLD, 19005 posts
Monday , 17 Feb 2020 5:30PM
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Macaha said..

laceys lane said..
Mac will be relieved



Leave me out of this I'm collector and don't give a rats rear end if a board works, if it red white and black it's truly a thing of beauty


Where did you get this collector thing from

Macaha
QLD, 19760 posts
Monday , 17 Feb 2020 5:53PM
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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..


laceys lane said..
Mac will be relieved




Leave me out of this I'm collector and don't give a rats rear end if a board works, if it red white and black it's truly a thing of beauty



Where did you get this collector thing from


As a young fella I would collect paddle pop sticks and make things, I made a set of twin fins once. Unfortunately things got out of hand collecting anything.



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