Here's one to stir things up a bit.
As a full blown trysexual surfer read: Ride anything and everything I wanted to ask you guys this question.
My question is again, I notice that heaps of you guys are down on SUP riders. Is it just the kooks or SUP in general? What if a guy knows his way around the line up and can do a few turns on them??
Also as someone that would consider themselves a shortboarder exclusively is it just cool amongst the hipsters to hate them? To me a lot of guys I know as well hang it on SUP riders but kind of have no explanation why... Maybe 'cos there all gay' or something.....
So why is it?
P.S Don't hold back, it's the shortboard room...
Because 90 percent of them (yep, made that number up) are middle aged, semi-overweight, kook weekend warriors with no co-ordination or skill and no idea of surf etiquette and have no place in the line out on such a large, heavy and dangerous watercraft.
As always, the many spoiled it for the few.
I wouldn't say it's cool to hate SUP...just natural.
I've actually never been in a lineup that has had one in it, so not sure about whether the negative stuff is about being able to sit a kay out the back and get waves!! I'm a kneelo and have had to suffer the "haters" over the last twenty five years, think it's a culture thing. Shortboards have been deemed the way to fame and fortune so anything else is seen as less important or less of a rush by the sb's, therefore you must be weird to do anything else and must be reminded of this, by them!! Kiters vs Windsurfers or poleys as they call them is another example.
I don't hate SUP i just like to stir more than anything.
It's kind of like goat boaters and lids that use to be at the bottom of the pecking order. Now SUP is on the scene we just have someone else to pick on.
I'd like to see a duel between a G Boater and a SUP. They could use there paddles like swords. CHING CHING CHING
This sup talk is all over the place,fair enough there is a sup forum but its spreading into SB and LB forums,just about to lock Lacey out of the LB cell
Well, imo, SUPs are ok when -
A - They are not surfing at your beach, any part of it. [}:)]
B - They are only good when an esky is mounted to it.
C - Generally made from windsurf epoxy so crap for surfing.
D - All of the above.
yes, very much so. wouldn't have it any other way.
along with full custom tinted long board owners who drink coffee in the carpark, wannbe be cool like my surf hero's shortboard riders, but surf like retarts, no talent esky lid riders who in their twenties just look stupid, cripples.
yes i hate them all
I've surfed with them a few times. No problem. It's just that they're all moulded from the stereotype that suba wrote except in my experience it's 100% so far. I've watched the "World Tour" champion Dave-whatever once. To be fair the waves sucked. But he was struggling. Makes me wonder why bother using crap equipment?
I've surfed with them in pretty good waves. They become a bit difficult. Go too deep and struggle when they're caught inside. Funny.
I've laughed at them falling off standing on them waiting for waves. That's always funny.
I hate the wobbly leg look as they're paddling around.
I dread the day when they invade my personal space and/or threaten me with injury.
Why take them out when it's good? I've been out in some pretty awesome surf with them. What's the point? Tube dodging and trimming. It makes me think that the guys on them can't surf and are using them as a crutch (in fact I'm sure of it).
I could see myself getting one for messing around on flatwater. Preferably with a glass bottom for fish watching. Or for downwinding. But never for surfing, unless I can somehow do that and not shortboard any more, like from injury (seems a common theme in the SUP forum).
I've got nothing against individuals and will share the water with anyone. I've surfed with SUPs and boogers and longboards and will happily chat with anyone. I even surfed with a goatboater the other day, first time in years. He was a top bloke. But I'll reserve the right to stereotype groups based on what I see and know. Just don't hassle me (not likely at this stage).
I'm worried about how SUPs could be seen as attractive by more people in the non-surfer demographic and invade certain areas. E.g. suba's Tearooms. What will happen when that happens? Who knows? I'm too old to fight (much) but I'd love to send them in. It's not the place for it. It happened down the beach, at Isos. Didn't use to be 50-year-old mal rider heaven. I could see it happen at Kearnsy's too. That worries me. It's pretty perfect for SUPs unless it's (rarely) big enough to shut down. The demographic there is pretty old already. I'm not a local and wouldn't send anyone in. I've only seen one there and he was at N____ most of the time.
I've been a shortboarder for over 37 years and ride a sup as well but only in certain conditions
I dont have a problem with anyone on any sort of craft as long as they know the ocean and can handle the conditions, have proper etiquette and not be a greedy wave hassling hog
E.g. you get kooks like these:
The grom that picks up the board should've punched out the fins.