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excav8ter
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11 Sep 2019 10:17AM
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Fast505 said..
FWIW, I use the 76 and 84 on the Levi 160, both in the "B" position but in slightly different locations in the track. I calibrate my mast track and UJ so that I can replicate settings easily. Generally, I put my 84 on "6" and the 76 on "3" using my scale (see pic). The numbers align with the leading edge of the mast. This positions the front foil about in the middle of my straps so that my feet have even pressure while sailing. Small adjustments DO make a difference. It was light to start last night so I used my 84 at "7" which was good for getting on foil sooner. I moved my UJ back to about "3" (see pic) which also helped initially. However, when the wind built I found that having the foil fwd and UJ back made for a very twitchy ride - small differences in my weight and sail trim made larger differences in the trim of the board. I was using my Ezzy Hydra 7.0. Winds were about 12-14 knots at most having picked up from 8-10 (no white caps and really no dark water)I'm 200 lbs and I can pump onto foil with this combo in 10 knots no problem. Personally, I think the 99 is not necessary even at 225. The problem with the 84 is that it tops out around 18 mph. Try pushing it harder and the flow separates and you come crashing down. The 84 is so forgiving that beyond a sudden breech this is the only think that causes you to crash hard. Otherwise, it just gurgles a bit when it gets close to the surface which you can easily correct for before you crash it. The 99 will have even a lower maximum speed and I'm not really sure that would be beneficial. I would've been better off last night on the 76 when the wind was over 12 knots.






What increments are you using? Cm or inches? Where do you typically set the foil plate for your i84?

azymuth
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11 Sep 2019 10:33AM
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boardsurfr said..

A very interesting aspect of learning to foil! On the slapper, Im decent at using swell from behind to get going. On the i84, it's a different story. I can get going halfway well when going against the swell, but have a harder time coming back in. When going down the swell, the foil is often pushed down, even when the board accelerates. Then when the a wave overtakes me, the board suddenly gets pushed up a lot. Confused me mightily for a few sessions, but I'm now starting to get an idea what is going on. Still have to figure out how to use it to get going with swell coming at an angle from behind. It differs quite a bit with wind and swell directions - some days it just works, other days when the angles changed a bit it's hard. The way the i84 "feels" what's going on under water can be fun, once you get over the initial "o **" reaction .



Had the same experience with the 84 - diving when accelerating downwind down a wave, weirdly seemed ok riding backside on the wave.
The diving was lessened with the smaller 42 rear wing (I could push down with the rear leg easier to keep the nose up), compared with the 48 rear.

Not sure I've got a clear idea on exactly how wings work, super fun just learning how to use them.
I can operate my iPhone ok yet only have a tiny grasp of quantum mechanics

Anyone with a good understanding of foil lift physics please chime in.

SALKAN
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11 Sep 2019 11:53AM
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Did anyone's Levitator come with any markings on the foil track, or the sail mast track for easy set up, or remembering what setting works with which front wing? I was told there may be such markings on some Levitators.


My Levitator 160 came 1 week ago without any marking. I hope you share your experience with the settings.

excav8ter
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11 Sep 2019 8:44PM
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excav8ter said..
Did anyone's Levitator come with any markings on the foil track, or the sail mast track for easy set up, or remembering what setting works with which front wing? I was told there may be such markings on some Levitators.



My Levitator 160 came 1 week ago without any marking. I hope you share your experience with the settings.


I most definitely will. Last night was so disappointing. Hopefully the wind forecast holds out for Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

Foiler69er
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12 Sep 2019 1:05AM
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Hi all,

No markings on the Levitator - I suggest making marks yourself. I do that. A couple of comments regarding windspeed, foil positioning and sail size. 10 knots is not the same as 10 mph :-) I know you know that but I can foil in 10 knots but not 10 mph. (yet)
In 10 knots I can pump my 160L Levi up with the 84 wing and my f_type 6.8. I install the 84 wing quite a bit forward. When the wind picks up I move the wing a little back. Perhaps 1 inch to 1.5 inches. This is something you will have to experiment with. and also move your UJ back and forth. In light wind my UJ is in the middle of the track with my 6.8. With smaller sails I move it back. Once you find the right place for your foil and sail mark it up with a colored marker. For example a black marker for your 7m2 and 84 wing ...
It sounds complicated to get to the right configuration but I have gone through it this year and it's not that hard. If you foil with too much back foot pressure move the foil forward. All of a sudden you have the right setting and all is good.
I ordered a sailworks flyer 8.2 and I hope I can foil in 8 knots of wind with that - I will let you know!

Going downwind with the swells is definitely the hardest part - regulating your flight fight require practice and concentration. On the chesapeake bay we don't get the nice long swells - we get shorter and steeper waves mixed with chop. That's when I still crash - a lot :-)

SALKAN
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12 Sep 2019 6:30AM
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FAST505 previously made marks on his levitator in this discussion (see page 1 in this discussion) that is quite useful for us to communicate in terms of locations of sail/mast and foil/mast so that there would be a good idea for a starting set-up.

excav8ter
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12 Sep 2019 8:36AM
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FAST505 previously made marks on his levitator in this discussion (see page 1 in this discussion) that is quite useful for us to communicate in terms of locations of sail/mast and foil/mast so that there would be a good idea for a starting set-up.


I saw that. I thought it was a great idea.
I thought I asked this already, but does anyone know if he used centimeters or inches?

Foiler69er
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12 Sep 2019 8:50AM
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He's using cm - I will ask him to comment and upload the pictures in case you want to replicate his measurements. He and I started around the same time and figured it 'all' out.

excav8ter
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12 Sep 2019 9:02AM
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He's using cm - I will ask him to comment and upload the pictures in case you want to replicate his measurements. He and I started around the same time and figured it 'all' out.


That would be great. I will probably use that as a guide, but go with inches for my usage. I am assuming he measured from back of the foil mast track and went forward from there, and then from the front of the sail mast track and went backwards. Correct?

Fast505
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12 Sep 2019 9:29AM
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Guys, my calibration scheme is quite simple. For the foil mast track I put the mast in its furthest aft position by using the set forward set of aft bolt holes (if that makes sense). This allows the mast to be mounted in its furthest aft position. I then sight across from the leading edge of the mast and use this as datum (0). I then mark in 1cm increments forward from 0 to 10. For the universal joint, since I use a Chinook 2-bolt base, I do likewise by sliding it back as far as it will go in the track but still stay bolted. As it turns out, this point is approx. 6.5cm from the very aft cutout of the track. I then mark forward at 1cm increments to 13.

The nice thing about this is that, for me, the numbers seem to match up reasonably well in that with my 84 wing in B position, I use a foil mast track position of about 6 and about the same for the UJ, although lately I'm around 7 with my Ezzy 7.0 Hydra. Still tweaking but those settings will get you in a good ballpark. For the 76, I'm back around 3 on the foil to keep the center of lift between my straps for even foot pressure. So, the 76 wants to be slightly further back than the 84.

Hope that helps!

excav8ter
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12 Sep 2019 9:50AM
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Guys, my calibration scheme is quite simple. For the foil mast track I put the mast in its furthest aft position by using the set forward set of aft bolt holes (if that makes sense). This allows the mast to be mounted in its furthest aft position. I then sight across from the leading edge of the mast and use this as datum (0). I then mark in 1cm increments forward from 0 to 10. For the universal joint, since I use a Chinook 2-bolt base, I do likewise by sliding it back as far as it will go in the track but still stay bolted. As it turns out, this point is approx. 6.5cm from the very aft cutout of the track. I then mark forward at 1cm increments to 13.

The nice thing about this is that, for me, the numbers seem to match up reasonably well in that with my 84 wing in B position, I use a foil mast track position of about 6 and about the same for the UJ, although lately I'm around 7 with my Ezzy 7.0 Hydra. Still tweaking but those settings will get you in a good ballpark. For the 76, I'm back around 3 on the foil to keep the center of lift between my straps for even foot pressure. So, the 76 wants to be slightly further back than the 84.

Hope that helps!


That does help!

excav8ter
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12 Sep 2019 9:54AM
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Something I noticed last night while I was out in the dying wind....
While I never really got up on foil and flying comfortably, the Levitator definitely seemed to respond well to pumping the sail. My Fanatic Falcon seemed more "stuck" on the water than the Levitator.

Fast505
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12 Sep 2019 10:15PM
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Fast505 said..
Guys, my calibration scheme is quite simple. For the foil mast track I put the mast in its furthest aft position by using the set forward set of aft bolt holes (if that makes sense). This allows the mast to be mounted in its furthest aft position. I then sight across from the leading edge of the mast and use this as datum (0). I then mark in 1cm increments forward from 0 to 10. For the universal joint, since I use a Chinook 2-bolt base, I do likewise by sliding it back as far as it will go in the track but still stay bolted. As it turns out, this point is approx. 6.5cm from the very aft cutout of the track. I then mark forward at 1cm increments to 13.

The nice thing about this is that, for me, the numbers seem to match up reasonably well in that with my 84 wing in B position, I use a foil mast track position of about 6 and about the same for the UJ, although lately I'm around 7 with my Ezzy 7.0 Hydra. Still tweaking but those settings will get you in a good ballpark. For the 76, I'm back around 3 on the foil to keep the center of lift between my straps for even foot pressure. So, the 76 wants to be slightly further back than the 84.

Hope that helps!



That does help!


For folks adopting my calibration scheme, I would be interested to hear your setups on the Levitator, including foil and UJ positions, so that we can compare. Have you found some "magic" numbers? I'm interested in trying two things currently - 1) a larger sail than my 7.0 and 2) moving the 84 wing to "C" position with an adjustment to the mast track to keep the wing in the same relative position on the board. We have an event this coming weekend where the wind looks marginal on Saturday. I know I can get this board flying in 10 knots TWS with the 7.0. I was thinking about trying my 76 wing with a larger slalom sail (I have an older Maui Sails 8.5). The ability to share information is really important but you can't do it without a standardized calibration scheme. And yes, 1cm makes a noticeable difference!

excav8ter
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13 Sep 2019 8:40AM
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Fast505 said..

excav8ter said..


Fast505 said..
Guys, my calibration scheme is quite simple. For the foil mast track I put the mast in its furthest aft position by using the set forward set of aft bolt holes (if that makes sense). This allows the mast to be mounted in its furthest aft position. I then sight across from the leading edge of the mast and use this as datum (0). I then mark in 1cm increments forward from 0 to 10. For the universal joint, since I use a Chinook 2-bolt base, I do likewise by sliding it back as far as it will go in the track but still stay bolted. As it turns out, this point is approx. 6.5cm from the very aft cutout of the track. I then mark forward at 1cm increments to 13.

The nice thing about this is that, for me, the numbers seem to match up reasonably well in that with my 84 wing in B position, I use a foil mast track position of about 6 and about the same for the UJ, although lately I'm around 7 with my Ezzy 7.0 Hydra. Still tweaking but those settings will get you in a good ballpark. For the 76, I'm back around 3 on the foil to keep the center of lift between my straps for even foot pressure. So, the 76 wants to be slightly further back than the 84.

Hope that helps!




That does help!



For folks adopting my calibration scheme, I would be interested to hear your setups on the Levitator, including foil and UJ positions, so that we can compare. Have you found some "magic" numbers? I'm interested in trying two things currently - 1) a larger sail than my 7.0 and 2) moving the 84 wing to "C" position with an adjustment to the mast track to keep the wing in the same relative position on the board. We have an event this coming weekend where the wind looks marginal on Saturday. I know I can get this board flying in 10 knots TWS with the 7.0. I was thinking about trying my 76 wing with a larger slalom sail (I have an older Maui Sails 8.5). The ability to share information is really important but you can't do it without a standardized calibration scheme. And yes, 1cm makes a noticeable difference!


I will share what Iearn for sure.

I went out this evening for a shot at redemption after Tuesday night's fiasco. Tuesday the board just wanted "wheelie out". No matter what I did I couldn't keep it down. Mind you, I had no idea where to start.
Tonight I moved the foil mast back and had stronger wind than the other night. I was able to get on foil, but it wasn't comfortable. I stayed out for and hour before the wind really kicked up. I made a small mark with my black marker where the front of the foil mast was. Next time I will move it forward 3/4" and see what happens.
I did have some great flights tonight, just not super steady.
I used my 7.0 Flyer and the i84 wing tonight. Could have easily dropped to a 6.0 or maybe 5.0.

I am curious of when to drop front wing size? I am not interested in top speed right now, because I am clearly not ready for that. I understand that smaller wings go faster, but if you go down in sail size, and front wing, does that also mean that the speed will be reduced too?

I know our fall winds are typically stronger around here in the fall, so I may be going to a 5.0 sail sooner than later.

SALKAN
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13 Sep 2019 11:14PM
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Fast505 said..


excav8ter said..



Fast505 said..
Guys, my calibration scheme is quite simple. For the foil mast track I put the mast in its furthest aft position by using the set forward set of aft bolt holes (if that makes sense). This allows the mast to be mounted in its furthest aft position. I then sight across from the leading edge of the mast and use this as datum (0). I then mark in 1cm increments forward from 0 to 10. For the universal joint, since I use a Chinook 2-bolt base, I do likewise by sliding it back as far as it will go in the track but still stay bolted. As it turns out, this point is approx. 6.5cm from the very aft cutout of the track. I then mark forward at 1cm increments to 13.

The nice thing about this is that, for me, the numbers seem to match up reasonably well in that with my 84 wing in B position, I use a foil mast track position of about 6 and about the same for the UJ, although lately I'm around 7 with my Ezzy 7.0 Hydra. Still tweaking but those settings will get you in a good ballpark. For the 76, I'm back around 3 on the foil to keep the center of lift between my straps for even foot pressure. So, the 76 wants to be slightly further back than the 84.

Hope that helps!





That does help!




For folks adopting my calibration scheme, I would be interested to hear your setups on the Levitator, including foil and UJ positions, so that we can compare. Have you found some "magic" numbers? I'm interested in trying two things currently - 1) a larger sail than my 7.0 and 2) moving the 84 wing to "C" position with an adjustment to the mast track to keep the wing in the same relative position on the board. We have an event this coming weekend where the wind looks marginal on Saturday. I know I can get this board flying in 10 knots TWS with the 7.0. I was thinking about trying my 76 wing with a larger slalom sail (I have an older Maui Sails 8.5). The ability to share information is really important but you can't do it without a standardized calibration scheme. And yes, 1cm makes a noticeable difference!



I will share what Iearn for sure.

I went out this evening for a shot at redemption after Tuesday night's fiasco. Tuesday the board just wanted "wheelie out". No matter what I did I couldn't keep it down. Mind you, I had no idea where to start.
Tonight I moved the foil mast back and had stronger wind than the other night. I was able to get on foil, but it wasn't comfortable. I stayed out for and hour before the wind really kicked up. I made a small mark with my black marker where the front of the foil mast was. Next time I will move it forward 3/4" and see what happens.
I did have some great flights tonight, just not super steady.
I used my 7.0 Flyer and the i84 wing tonight. Could have easily dropped to a 6.0 or maybe 5.0.

I am curious of when to drop front wing size? I am not interested in top speed right now, because I am clearly not ready for that. I understand that smaller wings go faster, but if you go down in sail size, and front wing, does that also mean that the speed will be reduced too?

I know our fall winds are typically stronger around here in the fall, so I may be going to a 5.0 sail sooner than later.


May be some physics majors could help with your question regarding the speed change with foil size. But I intuitively think that the smaller wing should be faster than the larger wing if you are foiling.

Fast505
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14 Sep 2019 12:43AM
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Fast505 said..


excav8ter said..



Fast505 said..
Guys, my calibration scheme is quite simple. For the foil mast track I put the mast in its furthest aft position by using the set forward set of aft bolt holes (if that makes sense). This allows the mast to be mounted in its furthest aft position. I then sight across from the leading edge of the mast and use this as datum (0). I then mark in 1cm increments forward from 0 to 10. For the universal joint, since I use a Chinook 2-bolt base, I do likewise by sliding it back as far as it will go in the track but still stay bolted. As it turns out, this point is approx. 6.5cm from the very aft cutout of the track. I then mark forward at 1cm increments to 13.

The nice thing about this is that, for me, the numbers seem to match up reasonably well in that with my 84 wing in B position, I use a foil mast track position of about 6 and about the same for the UJ, although lately I'm around 7 with my Ezzy 7.0 Hydra. Still tweaking but those settings will get you in a good ballpark. For the 76, I'm back around 3 on the foil to keep the center of lift between my straps for even foot pressure. So, the 76 wants to be slightly further back than the 84.

Hope that helps!





That does help!




For folks adopting my calibration scheme, I would be interested to hear your setups on the Levitator, including foil and UJ positions, so that we can compare. Have you found some "magic" numbers? I'm interested in trying two things currently - 1) a larger sail than my 7.0 and 2) moving the 84 wing to "C" position with an adjustment to the mast track to keep the wing in the same relative position on the board. We have an event this coming weekend where the wind looks marginal on Saturday. I know I can get this board flying in 10 knots TWS with the 7.0. I was thinking about trying my 76 wing with a larger slalom sail (I have an older Maui Sails 8.5). The ability to share information is really important but you can't do it without a standardized calibration scheme. And yes, 1cm makes a noticeable difference!



I will share what Iearn for sure.

I went out this evening for a shot at redemption after Tuesday night's fiasco. Tuesday the board just wanted "wheelie out". No matter what I did I couldn't keep it down. Mind you, I had no idea where to start.
Tonight I moved the foil mast back and had stronger wind than the other night. I was able to get on foil, but it wasn't comfortable. I stayed out for and hour before the wind really kicked up. I made a small mark with my black marker where the front of the foil mast was. Next time I will move it forward 3/4" and see what happens.
I did have some great flights tonight, just not super steady.
I used my 7.0 Flyer and the i84 wing tonight. Could have easily dropped to a 6.0 or maybe 5.0.

I am curious of when to drop front wing size? I am not interested in top speed right now, because I am clearly not ready for that. I understand that smaller wings go faster, but if you go down in sail size, and front wing, does that also mean that the speed will be reduced too?

I know our fall winds are typically stronger around here in the fall, so I may be going to a 5.0 sail sooner than later.


I recommend you keep the 84 wing on and put in the same location I use to start. Use smaller sails when it's windy and gen comfortable with flying height and balance. You need to sail differently than you would on a slapper with a more balanced and upright stance. You are just going through the process all of us went through.

excav8ter
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14 Sep 2019 10:20AM
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Got out again tonight. 6.0 Flyer, rigged pretty flat because I kind knew I'd be overpowered tonight. Whitecaps everywhere. Moved my foil mast forward from where it was last night by 3/4" and left the UJ in the middle of the mast track. Had immediate success and it felt pretty comfortable and balanced. At higher speeds I felt really comfortable. The speed felt amazing. I know it's still the i84 wing, but it still felt fast.
I made a black mark last night and then moved up by 3/4" tonight. Will make better and more permanent marks this weekend.

SALKAN
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15 Sep 2019 12:38AM
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I've been contemplating the Levitator 160 for myself too. I like my Fanatic Falcon light wind, but ifrom what I've read, the SS 99 front wing is only useable on the Levitator boards. I am wondering if that's really true. I, like many of you, am hoping to get out an foil in 10mph or even less if possible. I desperately need this kind of fun in my life. Been through some rough years, and this is something I feel will help me out mentally and physically.

I am 6'4" tall and about 225

Current sails are 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah, 7.0 Sailworks Flyer and Monday my Flyer 6.0 is scheduled to be delivered.

Would love to be able to use the 8.0 on the Levitator board with the 99 front wing in 10MPH.


New information on youtube for various slingshot foils including i99! Check it out at

excav8ter
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15 Sep 2019 4:13AM
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excav8ter said..
I've been contemplating the Levitator 160 for myself too. I like my Fanatic Falcon light wind, but ifrom what I've read, the SS 99 front wing is only useable on the Levitator boards. I am wondering if that's really true. I, like many of you, am hoping to get out an foil in 10mph or even less if possible. I desperately need this kind of fun in my life. Been through some rough years, and this is something I feel will help me out mentally and physically.

I am 6'4" tall and about 225

Current sails are 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah, 7.0 Sailworks Flyer and Monday my Flyer 6.0 is scheduled to be delivered.

Would love to be able to use the 8.0 on the Levitator board with the 99 front wing in 10MPH.



New information on youtube for various slingshot foils including i99! Check it out at


Good information there from Wyatt.
I probably mentioned it previously, but last Saturday I used the i99 with great success on my Fanatic Falcon LW. I put the i99 in C position and it worked well. Used my Ezzy Cheetah 8.0, and put the UJ in the middle of the mast track. 8-12mph breezes and it flew nicely.

SALKAN
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16 Sep 2019 12:48AM
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excav8ter said..

SALKAN said..


excav8ter said..
I've been contemplating the Levitator 160 for myself too. I like my Fanatic Falcon light wind, but ifrom what I've read, the SS 99 front wing is only useable on the Levitator boards. I am wondering if that's really true. I, like many of you, am hoping to get out an foil in 10mph or even less if possible. I desperately need this kind of fun in my life. Been through some rough years, and this is something I feel will help me out mentally and physically.

I am 6'4" tall and about 225

Current sails are 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah, 7.0 Sailworks Flyer and Monday my Flyer 6.0 is scheduled to be delivered.

Would love to be able to use the 8.0 on the Levitator board with the 99 front wing in 10MPH.




New information on youtube for various slingshot foils including i99! Check it out at



Good information there from Wyatt.
I probably mentioned it previously, but last Saturday I used the i99 with great success on my Fanatic Falcon LW. I put the i99 in C position and it worked well. Used my Ezzy Cheetah 8.0, and put the UJ in the middle of the mast track. 8-12mph breezes and it flew nicely.


Can you compare the performance on i99 vs i84 in terms of performance on very light wind day? Do you think i99 levitates on a lower wind i.e. 2-3 mph lower. Wyatt is complementing how easy to make progress on i99 vs i84.

excav8ter
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16 Sep 2019 5:34AM
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excav8ter said..


SALKAN said..



excav8ter said..
I've been contemplating the Levitator 160 for myself too. I like my Fanatic Falcon light wind, but ifrom what I've read, the SS 99 front wing is only useable on the Levitator boards. I am wondering if that's really true. I, like many of you, am hoping to get out an foil in 10mph or even less if possible. I desperately need this kind of fun in my life. Been through some rough years, and this is something I feel will help me out mentally and physically.

I am 6'4" tall and about 225

Current sails are 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah, 7.0 Sailworks Flyer and Monday my Flyer 6.0 is scheduled to be delivered.

Would love to be able to use the 8.0 on the Levitator board with the 99 front wing in 10MPH.





New information on youtube for various slingshot foils including i99! Check it out at




Good information there from Wyatt.
I probably mentioned it previously, but last Saturday I used the i99 with great success on my Fanatic Falcon LW. I put the i99 in C position and it worked well. Used my Ezzy Cheetah 8.0, and put the UJ in the middle of the mast track. 8-12mph breezes and it flew nicely.



Can you compare the performance on i99 vs i84 in terms of performance on very light wind day? Do you think i99 levitates on a lower wind i.e. 2-3 mph lower. Wyatt is complementing how easy to make progress on i99 vs i84.


I had the i84 and the i99 out in consecutive sessions. Personally I felt the i99 lifted in wind I couldn't get the i84 to lift in. The i99 comes up very smoothly and predictably, not that the i84 is unpredictable. The i99 is a cruiser... it turns pretty well, but all I have done with it is to turn downwind and then back up wind to get the feel of how it feels and reacts. I used it with an 8.0 Ezzy Cheetah in 8-12mph. I wonder if I could get a 10.0 meter up on foil with the i99 in 6-10mph?

SALKAN
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16 Sep 2019 11:55AM
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Did anyone's Levitator come with any markings on the foil track, or the sail mast track for easy set up, or remembering what setting works with which front wing? I was told there may be such markings on some Levitators.



I received my 160 lt Levitator 3 days ago and it has no marking. I was before using i84 wing with 90 cm mast with my old starboard S-type 155 lt board that is 95 cm wide and I was able sustain my lifts for 60-80 yards with my 7.0 Sailworks flyer sail (I weight 225 lbs).
I note that Falcon Lightwind that you are using wider than Levitator (90cm, levitator is 86.36 cm).
I did not have a good experience with my new Levitator and despite several hours of trying, I felt like I was trying to ride a wild horse. Another proggressive beginner foil-windsurfer also tried my setting, he was worse than I was. Both of us are progressive beginners (on and off 4-5 months foiling on my old board) and he uses JP old foil with his SB 145 futura. So overall, my experience is very dissapointing with SS Levitator. I first put the foilmast in the middle of track, and 2nd day all the way to the front while sail mast is 3-4 cm forward from the insertion slot. I am not using the foot straps. I feel like as soon as the board lifts, it becomes very unstable and wobbling. I will try few more times; otherwise, I will look into putting a new foil box with tracking on my Starboard so I could make a better progress. By the way, the foil set-up on Levitator is very cumbersome and I was impressed with the Naish foil tracking system that does not require any screwdrive, called abracadabra (check it here:
). I hope slingshot will adapt this since SS system is not easy to set-up.


azymuth
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16 Sep 2019 12:38PM
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^^^ Salkan - must be something off with the setup - I can't imagine a foil more steady than the Infinity 84.

What fuselage position are you using?

When you're up on foil would you say that the center of lift of the 84 wing is halfway between your feet - and your feet widely spaced?

SALKAN
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16 Sep 2019 1:00PM
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^^^ Salkan - must be something off with the setup - I can't imagine a foil more steady than the Infinity 84.

What fuselage position are you using?

When you're up on foil would you say that the center of lift of the 84 wing is halfway between your feet - and your feet widely spaced?



First tried the foilmast in the middle of track, and 2nd day all the way to the front while sail mast is 3-4 cm forward from the insertion slot. I tried to put my front feet above the foil and back foot above the mast. I will go out on next weekend to improve foiling or buy i99 as I heard that is more like training wheel for foling.

DB2
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16 Sep 2019 10:07PM
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Hi Salkan,

can you take a few pictures of your set-up? What position is your foil fuselage? A, B or C? We have a Lavitator 160 in our club and it is a pretty stable platform with the infinity 76. I highly recommend the use of both foot straps for better control. If it is to lively, mastfoot forward and/or foil backwards will help to stabilise the board.

Best regards, David

SALKAN
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17 Sep 2019 2:17AM
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DB2 said..
Hi Salkan,

can you take a few pictures of your set-up? What position is your foil fuselage? A, B or C?


I am using "c" position with larger backwing and 90 cm mast.

Fast505
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17 Sep 2019 3:55AM
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SALKAN said..

excav8ter said..
Did anyone's Levitator come with any markings on the foil track, or the sail mast track for easy set up, or remembering what setting works with which front wing? I was told there may be such markings on some Levitators.




I received my 160 lt Levitator 3 days ago and it has no marking. I was before using i84 wing with 90 cm mast with my old starboard S-type 155 lt board that is 95 cm wide and I was able sustain my lifts for 60-80 yards with my 7.0 Sailworks flyer sail (I weight 225 lbs).
I note that Falcon Lightwind that you are using wider than Levitator (90cm, levitator is 86.36 cm).
I did not have a good experience with my new Levitator and despite several hours of trying, I felt like I was trying to ride a wild horse. Another proggressive beginner foil-windsurfer also tried my setting, he was worse than I was. Both of us are progressive beginners (on and off 4-5 months foiling on my old board) and he uses JP old foil with his SB 145 futura. So overall, my experience is very dissapointing with SS Levitator. I first put the foilmast in the middle of track, and 2nd day all the way to the front while sail mast is 3-4 cm forward from the insertion slot. I am not using the foot straps. I feel like as soon as the board lifts, it becomes very unstable and wobbling. I will try few more times; otherwise, I will look into putting a new foil box with tracking on my Starboard so I could make a better progress. By the way, the foil set-up on Levitator is very cumbersome and I was impressed with the Naish foil tracking system that does not require any screwdrive, called abracadabra (check it here:
). I hope slingshot will adapt this since SS system is not easy to set-up.




I had a similar experience the first few times with the Levitator. I was trying all sorts of stuff, including A position, feet out of the straps, etc. Frankly, the problem was me not the gear. Once I decided to commit to B position with the 76 and 84 and dial in the setup, everything came together. But, what really happened more than anything was I had to re-train my brain to not react in the same way I did sailing a normal slalom board. Once I stopped going back-foot dominant and started standing more upright with shorter lines and a more balanced stance, I started sailing better. Now, after a few months, all I really want to do is foil. You'll get there. It's not your equipment!

DB2
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17 Sep 2019 4:48AM
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Hi!

Most of us use the Slingshot Foil, Mostly with i76, some with i84. In dedicated foil-boards, everyone uses position B. Even with the i84 it is just great, you can adjust it by moving the foil a bit forward. If you use C and have the foil all the way forward, I can understand where your struggle comes from. I found it easier to start the other way around, with back-foot heavy set-up.

Windbot
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17 Sep 2019 5:12AM
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Riding the 84 should be the farthest thing from riding a wild horse. I could make a sandwich and take a nap riding mine. Is it possible your rear wing was mounted upside down? I don't mean any offense, but I know it is a bit confusing with the two wing options and their reversed mountings. Good luck!

SALKAN
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17 Sep 2019 5:20AM
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Riding the 84 should be the farthest thing from riding a wild horse. I could make a sandwich and take a nap riding mine. Is it possible your rear wing was mounted upside down? I don't mean any offense, but I know it is a bit confusing with the two wing options and their reversed mountings. Good luck!



Yes the 48 wing is recommended to be upside down as opposed to 42 cm wing that is recommended to wings in up position in earlier forum. I will tighten all the screws this coming weekend and make sure there is no loose parts.



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