Harden up!!!!!!!

Comrade Kremlin,

Over here in Australia we have something called the "Ozone Hole", which means lots of UV light. Pryde sails seem to be very sensitive to this light, they get sunburnt and then fall to bits... many many people have had this problem. Not to mention insane downhaul tensions so the chances of a sail going bang when you rig it are high. Perhaps in Poland or motherland Russia you have less of a problem with UV?

Pryde R&D seems to have gone down the toilet lately

They do set nicely though

yeah i heard the same sort of thing from lots of people and have had a pryde sail fall apart in the past.
is it with all sails? hey kremlin, ya talking about wave sails or slalom? how much of a beating do u give em?

Yep,

All sails will fall apart after enough exposure to UV radiation, creasing, being squashed in the back of the car, gragged on the carpark, blown into fences.......

It is just ignorance to say this brand or that brand falls apart - which model, which year, which size, which country, which person using it, which climate.

Where are the scientific facts, statistics etc?

A comment from some guy on the beach is not fact....

A sail which is made of thin monofilm with no UV protection or re-inforcing will not last as long as one with these, in the same conditions and with the same use. Fact.

I'm sick of these self proclaimed "experts" Show us the facts and we will all be enlightened!

Meanwhile, enjoy the wind!

Comrade Filth
I refer to wave sails only
I give them much big work out... especially when falling/stalling/kooking at critical part of wave and getting smacked.
I do many wash cycles on full heavy duty load. This becauce I am kook not hard core
Other sails would blow panels and stitching... no problem with current sails. I have big wipeout and get flicked up and out but still maointain big grip on boom.
Then I land on sail... no tear no break... just wounded pride NOT wounded Pryde.
Other sails would have shattered for certain.
Next time i try keep together and with board conected i maybe make big crazy reverse twisting shakka aerial... or maybe not (I am kook for certain)

Comrade MD - I have many scars on legs from dragging foot of sail across shin when going for big cut backs... this OK many Russian chicks dig scars.. actually many Russian chicks have scars

Comrade Nebbian - No UV problem here in motherland though I do majority of sailing in Australia and have no problem with panel blow outs. Maybe you fall on sail too much yar ?

Last season I saw many sails from other manufacturer shredded on days where i have no problems. I also know they have many recalls on other brand last year.
I also learn new saying 'Glass for you is always half empty" this is ok ? yar ?

I was talking to Robbie Raddis at scarbs yesterday and he had a new Alpha. He reckoned it was one of the easiest sails. But what astounded me was that he was planing on a 5.4 when guys 10kg less were struggling on 5.8's!

hopefully there are not to many ****ers like that in our sport.

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Originally posted by Kremlin
Comrade Nebbian - No UV problem here in motherland though I do majority of sailing in Australia and have no problem with panel blow outs. Maybe you fall on sail too much yar ?

Last season I saw many sails from other manufacturer shredded on days where i have no problems. I also know they have many recalls on other brand last year.
I also learn new saying 'Glass for you is always half empty" this is ok ? yar ?

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Hey Kremlin,
Yep I fall on sails many times, harness hook downmost, get bashed around in beach break and generally kook out. Never been through a big heavy rinse cycle because I'm too much of a big girls blouse to go out in those conditions.
It's not really "glass half empty", more like trying to justify a new North sail to myself when I know that my existing one doesn't set all that well... also had problems with old Pryde sails in the past, probably more to do with their age than anything else!

But if we're going to throw sayings at each other then I've got one for you:
"Hook line and sinker"

If you need to "modify" the foot piping of your Alpha/Combat/Zone then Robbie Radis reckons that a potato peeler does a great job. Heaps safer than using a stanley knife!

Only the first few hundred sails had this problem, the moulding was changed as soon as the problem reared its head

I'm with whippingboy. I buy only pryde ( to the disgust of southside shop retailers) If you trash the sail simply get another one and tell yourself that was a great session. If you bust a boom it's only a boom get a new one. I've tried brands other than NP twice and ended up with junk for a similar price. No way I'll change again.

Another spoilt brat.

I'm with Salty & Java, even though my last Pryde race sail (2002)is now nailed to my rumous roof ( battens & cams removed ) with the 20+ repairs and stickers still holding ot together, I still wouldn't change!

Why?

Cause NP is a Kiwi, now I know how you Aussie's lurve a Kiwi!

Seriously they are the best, have not always been the most durable, but since 2004, things have changed.

Go Pryde!

Pryde make good sails- but so do North, gaastra, naish, et al. Pryde have been plagued with problems in the past- monofilm which has since been fixed, extreme mast curves and some silly concepts- the monofilm i blame on cost cutting but the others is by trying to stay at the head of the sport. Currently I only believe they could maybe beef up the seams in the panel above the boom on their wave sails.

Each brand tends to feel a bit different and whilst you may dislike a sail from a few tries sailing the sail a few times and you soon become adapted to that sail. Pryde tend to have a certain feel to all their sails which many people like, does it make them the best sails... no but it does make them good that most people can jump on and sail good right away with them.

You cant look at robbie raddis and say that makes them better- give the top guys sails and almost always they will make them fly and plane earlier than any other sail- its part of what makes them good sailors. If I choose a sail based on performance I tend to look at what is happening locally/state level where often good gear boosts a sailors performance.

I dont currently sail pryde but I would sail them avoiding certain years. I probably wont sail them again as I feel they are a little expensive for what you get. The brand loyalty in this sport is pretty amazing, but I think some people should objectively look at where, how often and what type of sailing they do before they argue. You cant argue against someone that sails 200+ days a year and says these pryde's arent as good as others when you sail maybe once a week so have never had a problem.

Yes pryde screwed up again but hey if it was say gun would have you heard about it, sometimes things like this are unavoidable.

hey fellas, it was mentioned in this thread the problem wass only on a few hundred sails worldwide, and the problem is fixed from here on in.

Really simple answer, if you dont like NP, dont buy it. But save us the whinge please.

Those that dig NP will continue to buy. Im stoked with my NP sails, but I wont bag the bejesus out of every other sail maker.

hit the water and have fun!

wake up Jeff

hot potato hot potato