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Can not sleep after windsurfing?

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Created by Wing 11 > 9 months ago, 20 Aug 2018
Mastbender
1972 posts
21 Aug 2018 7:52AM
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My recipe for a good night's sleep after heavy windsurfing:
A few bong hits
One glass of dry wine (Merlot is my fav)
Two Tylenol PMs

I rehydrate earlier in the evening, not just before bed, don't like having to get up in the middle of the night to piss.
Works every time, sometimes I wake up in the same position that I fell asleep in, no hangover, ready to go to do it all over again.

Faff
VIC, 1165 posts
21 Aug 2018 12:28PM
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Odd... I sleep like the dead after windsurfing. Water just has that calming effect. In fact after a good session (or even a bad one), my skull is so well ventilated of worries, I almost forget my name. Peace of mind. Why I love this sport.

Tardy
4920 posts
21 Aug 2018 10:44AM
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Another thing to try is 6 or 7 coronas ..or drink until ya fall down ..

forceten
1312 posts
22 Aug 2018 9:10PM
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Oh dear, what with global warming, world war #9, oil depletion and lack of suitable IPAs, i never get to sleep.

Orange Whip
QLD, 1039 posts
24 Aug 2018 11:02PM
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Mastbender said..
My recipe for a good night's sleep after heavy windsurfing:
A few bong hits
One glass of dry wine (Merlot is my fav)
Two Tylenol PMs

I rehydrate earlier in the evening, not just before bed, don't like having to get up in the middle of the night to piss.
Works every time, sometimes I wake up in the same position that I fell asleep in, no hangover, ready to go to do it all over again.


Yep weed is the king for the best sleep ever, according to a mate , but he hasn't smoked weed since learning to windsurf and sleeps like a baby.

lotofwind
NSW, 6450 posts
25 Aug 2018 2:08AM
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Maybe try watching it for an hour, puts me straight to sleep.

Vince68
WA, 675 posts
25 Aug 2018 6:54AM
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Watch some golf

Tardy
4920 posts
25 Aug 2018 8:54AM
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Orange Whip said..

Mastbender said..
My recipe for a good night's sleep after heavy windsurfing:
A few bong hits
One glass of dry wine (Merlot is my fav)
Two Tylenol PMs

I rehydrate earlier in the evening, not just before bed, don't like having to get up in the middle of the night to piss.
Works every time, sometimes I wake up in the same position that I fell asleep in, no hangover, ready to go to do it all over again.



Yep weed is the king for the best sleep ever, according to a mate , but he hasn't smoked weed since learning to windsurf and sleeps like a baby.


Have one of those special cookies ,ya can't talk or move

and wake up 2 daz later.

Mr Milk
NSW, 2868 posts
25 Aug 2018 11:09AM
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Orange Whip said..
Yep weed is the king for the best sleep ever, according to a mate , but he hasn't smoked weed since learning to windsurf and sleeps like a baby.


You mean he wets the bed?

Harrow
NSW, 4520 posts
27 Aug 2018 8:40AM
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I always sleep better than usual due to the de-stressing effect of sailing.

Relic
TAS, 837 posts
27 Aug 2018 9:15AM
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Sail till you can't hold on any longer. Two beers after sailing, pack up. Unpack, rig up again cos wind came back in. Pack up again. Go home. More beer (5% alc/vol at least). Reefer. Eat, eat eat eat some more. one litre red wine (Hardys 1litre $8). Root or wank (lie on hand till numb for latter...Feeels like someone else). Reefer. Tramodol. watch Antique Roadshow. Pass out.
Next morning; Rehab. Following Day Sail till you cant hold on any longer. Repeat above.
Setting healthy routines is the key to good sleep patterns

Wing 11
WA, 92 posts
27 Aug 2018 1:33PM
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Tardy said..
Another thing to try is 6 or 7 coronas ..or drink until ya fall down ..


You mean like this?

Manuel7
1231 posts
27 Nov 2018 3:54PM
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Muscles throbbing.... extreme light surf sailing, slippery deck, over did it, can't sleep, too hot, thirsty!

trainright.com/cant-sleep-hard-workout-race/

FormulaNova
WA, 14049 posts
27 Nov 2018 4:37PM
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I find that I can barely walk after some windsurfing sessions. Is it me, or does anyone else feel like this?

I also feel the same after 2 hours on the cable at the wake park, although that's worse and I feel like I need a new spine and legs for the next 2 days.

Is it age, or is it my body telling me that its better to play golf?

busterwa
3777 posts
27 Nov 2018 7:21PM
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just close your eyes and count overtaking kitesurfers insted of counting sheep.

John340
QLD, 3047 posts
27 Nov 2018 9:30PM
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It happens after a really big session to me. I've found a hot shower just before I go to bed helps.

Manuel7
1231 posts
29 Nov 2018 10:16AM
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If there's one thing sore after a strong session it's my legs, they do all the work!
Drink plenty (of water), better have to get up in the middle of the night than wake up with a dry mouth and need to drink anyway!
And have a cooler bedroom.
Those two things seem to be the most important according to google and me :D !

mark62
490 posts
29 Nov 2018 6:55PM
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I can't sleep tonight because its windy tomorrow, and I have tomorrow off work.......

joe windsurf
1480 posts
29 Nov 2018 6:57PM
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most men fall asleep immediately after sex
windsurfing is as good as sex
(well, almost)

joewindsurfer.blogspot.com/2011/04/is-windsurfung-as-good-as-sex.html

fangman
WA, 1239 posts
3 Jan 2019 8:27AM
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Tardy said..
you need magnesium ,and 2 panadols .




I have the same problem, the bigger the session, the worse the sleep. Tardy's recipe caught my eye and so I did some investigating. After doing a fair chunk of reading research papers, it appears that Magnesium depletion is bona fide and occurs in 15-20% of the population. The incidence increases as you age. The effects of low magnesium levels can manifest themselves in a very wide range of symptoms, including poor sleep and muscle pain.
There is a definitive and extremely well referenced free ebook available from the University of Adelaide:

https://www.adelaide.edu.au/press/titles/magnesium/magnesium-ebook.pdf

I have been taking a Magnesium supplement for several weeks to see if I noticed any improvement. At this stage, I am absolutely astonished at how much better I feel each day. I don't know how much of this is due to the placebo effect and confirmation bias, but at this point in time, I would give a magnesium supplement a big two thumbs up.

Heavy1
NSW, 349 posts
3 Jan 2019 12:36PM
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I agree with much of what has been said, especially re magnesium and hydration. Certainly try all the conservative stuff first. However,
Don't give up your sport (windsurfing) because of insomnia. I'm a GP and insomnia is one of our most common presentations, But keeping people physically active for their physical health and mood are both critical. Most sensible GPs will work with you to ensure you can get sleep after you windsurf, even if it takes some medication. Assuming you only windsurf once or twice a week then we would start with the strict rule that the medication is only for the once or twice a week, and that the whole situation should be reviewed after a few months.
Possibly your biggest issue now is that you are so stressed and expecting not to sleep that it causes you not to sleep. Just getting into a few good nights after windsurfing might reset your expectations.

But thats sort of starting at the end.
In fact first we should look at some causes of insomnia, for example do you have restless legs syndrome? That is frequently exacerbated by muscle fatigue, and is very treatable, but with specific non sedative medication.
Do you have some depression? this interferes with sleep cycle.
Is there a problem with day night cycle , eg melatonin. This is also treatable.
Do you have sleep apnoea. Perhaps being tired you are obstructing your breathing and waking just as you are falling into deep sleep. (testable with home sleep test and oximetry)

Just a couple of other easy suggestions.
I agree with magnesium, but dont take it just before bed. You want it in your muscles, not in the blood stream. Initially after taking a dose you might feel worse for half an hour or so. Take it in the morning.

Many people really do find 2 panadol very helpful. It may be that there is a degree of low grade pain that is suppressed.

When you get home and feel buggered, but start packing the gear away and doing your tax etc etc, then finally go to bed , you are over tired.
Try crashing as soon as you get home. You might find you can get 6 hrs of good sleep, then get up early and do those other jobs. If after 30 min you are still awake then get up. You dont want to be laying in bed feeling frustrated not sleeping.

Finally some people just find it harder to trigger sleep. People with any degree of autism spectrum, which is quite common, often have life long insomnia problems. Sometimes it helps to know you are not alone.

Windxtasy
WA, 4013 posts
3 Jan 2019 9:37AM
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fangman said..

Tardy said..
you need magnesium ,and 2 panadols .





I have the same problem, the bigger the session, the worse the sleep. Tardy's recipe caught my eye and so I did some investigating. After doing a fair chunk of reading research papers, it appears that Magnesium depletion is bona fide and occurs in 15-20% of the population. The incidence increases as you age. The effects of low magnesium levels can manifest themselves in a very wide range of symptoms, including poor sleep and muscle pain.
There is a definitive and extremely well referenced free ebook available from the University of Adelaide:

https://www.adelaide.edu.au/press/titles/magnesium/magnesium-ebook.pdf

I have been taking a Magnesium supplement for several weeks to see if I noticed any improvement. At this stage, I am absolutely astonished at how much better I feel each day. I don't know how much of this is due to the placebo effect and confirmation bias, but at this point in time, I would give a magnesium supplement a big two thumbs up.


"You are going to sleep well tonight" say silly people who think exercise makes you sleep like a baby. Like Fangy, the more I sail the worse I sleep. For me that is due to pain. I have stupid muscles that tend to cramp up during sleep after exercise. I don't feel sore when I go to bed but I wake up aching all over during the night. I find a muscle relaxant prior to bed if I have been windsurfing helps a lot, and it makes me sleepy also - I only need a quarter tablet. Of late, I have found magnesium to be very helpful also - improves sleep and reduces post exercise muscle soreness and cramping. Add in a panadol if necessary and pretty good sleep results. I will still feel tired in the muscles the next day though.

ka43
NSW, 3062 posts
3 Jan 2019 2:20PM
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Was recommended a product called "Karma Rub" by a pharmacist. Magnesium liquid, 4 - 5 drops rubbed onto skin before seems to help.
Agree with Fangy.

Relapse
VIC, 574 posts
3 Jan 2019 2:35PM
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Usually get an attack of the crazy legs after a good jumping session which keeps me up. Will give the magnesium a go, sounds promising

mmilhazes
94 posts
10 Jan 2019 6:05PM
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Hi

I have the same problem.
It?s the adrenalin rush that takes hours to go away so i used to roll in bed for hours with my eyes wide open despite being very exausted.

After some investigation i sorted it out by taking Melatonin 1 hour before bed.

"Melatonin is a hormone found naturally in the body. Melatonin used as medicine is usually made synthetically in a laboratory. It is most commonly available in pill form, but melatonin is also available in forms that can be placed in the cheek or under the tongue. This allows the melatonin to be absorbed directly into the body.

Some people take melatonin by mouth to adjust the body's internal clock. It is used for jet lag, for adjusting sleep-wake cycles in people whose daily work schedule changes (shift-work disorder), and for helping blind people establish a day and night cycle."

Try it out!!

Cheers

Windxtasy
WA, 4013 posts
10 Jan 2019 6:44PM
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mmilhazes said..
Hi

I have the same problem.
It?s the adrenalin rush that takes hours to go away so i used to roll in bed for hours with my eyes wide open despite being very exausted.

After some investigation i sorted it out by taking Melatonin 1 hour before bed.

"Melatonin is a hormone found naturally in the body. Melatonin used as medicine is usually made synthetically in a laboratory. It is most commonly available in pill form, but melatonin is also available in forms that can be placed in the cheek or under the tongue. This allows the melatonin to be absorbed directly into the body.

Some people take melatonin by mouth to adjust the body's internal clock. It is used for jet lag, for adjusting sleep-wake cycles in people whose daily work schedule changes (shift-work disorder), and for helping blind people establish a day and night cycle."

Try it out!!

Cheers


I have tried melatonin and I am allergic to it. It gives me hives. Then the itch keeps me awake...

morts
WA, 172 posts
10 Jan 2019 8:29PM
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I find stretching for the back, glute, hip flexor areas etc helps a bit.

Sputnik11
VIC, 972 posts
13 Jan 2019 10:00AM
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Try a mediation app on your phone. You need to switch the mind off and bring yourself back down from the adrenaline. It takes practice, but worth it.

Funnily enough, when I am stressed and I need to wind down, my 'happy place' for meditation is windsurfing. Locked in, cruising at top speed on flat water.



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