Don't they all? [}:)] (Not necessarily Quatro though)

I've seen a lot of video's with jason hanging around The Cannery with the boys and lots of pro's use quatro painted up to look like their sponsor's brand.

Guess you could say a JP board is just a fragile version of a Quatro

Oh yeah and Mikey your eyesight is obviously better than mine!!

Krusty said...

Every pro rider except those that ride for Naish sail quattro custom boards. If you go to the quattro factory in maui they have the favourite rocker lines for all the pros leaning up against the wall in the shapping room with names like levi siver, jason polakow etc...etc.. and they also have piles of stickers from JP, Mistral, Starboard etc etc

what about scotty and josh angulo?

I thought it was only a matter of time b4 you came into this one Jordo

Who cares if he uses quattro. I use mach3. When i'm on holidays i don't use nothing. But i am hardcore after all.

Greenroom said...

jord070 said...

He did choose the best

Did Alberto pay you to say this?

no, no one needs to be told, its just a fact

Greenroom said...

jord070 said...

He did choose the best

Did Alberto pay you to say this?

cmon take the bait, take the bait

zzzzzzzzzzz

the way boards evolve is that pro windsurfers often have templates with various shapers and they work on improving characteristics of specific shapes as an ongoing thing.

that is how things improve. maui is a very small community windsurfing wise.

the cannery is incestuous.

and then every board company gets it's models churned out of thailand.

What's wrong with mentioning that lots of pro's use Quatro customs with other logos?
Production boards could not possibly be as radical as pro athletes wanted them to be, and a production series could not possibly cover the different riding style of every athlete.
Most pro's live or spend their time on Maui, and the Quatro shaping room is also on Maui.
The guys are at the beach all the time, they know everyone, so they just work it out.

I can't believe people think that riders such as Jason are actually using the stock model.

But I thought Bombora were still making all the best boards
Bugger!!!!!! Thats going to de-value my Tri-fin

NR said...

I can't believe people think that riders such as Jason are actually using the stock model.

does Sir Rob Naish use customs???? some people say he use productions, but coz of his unique RADDDDDDical style wouldn't he have a custom whipped up

Gonewindsurfing i think you missing the point... none of these guys are using production boards.
They are all different with unique styles and likes and dis-likes.
A custom board is designed specifically for 1 rider to use while production boards are designed for 10's of thousands of people to use.
Some of the designs, rocker, concaves, vee ect ect filter down from custom boards into the mainstream production boards.

All these pros might be riding shapes from the one shaper but they are ALL very different boards.
They are ALL custom boards... even the Quatro production boards are NOTHING like the Quatro customs.

These guys will go through dozens of boards in a season searching for what works right. Their manufacturer shapers (Richard Green for JP) then takes all this data and puts it into a shape that can be produced and USED for the mainstream market.

The important thing to remember here is that the boards are being shaped to extremely specific guidelines to suit not just a riders style, but different conditions as well for THAT particular rider.
These subtle changes are what is filtered down to produce the best possible 'production' version.
The location of the shaping bay in Maui (not taking anything away from Keith's obviously gifted shaping skills) plays a big part in the current situation.

Back in the late 80's I used to watch Anders Bringdal and Willem Bleua modify and test Gaastra sails. I was lucky enough to get hold of one of these sails and the only thing on it that was made by Gaastra was the sticker !
The sail was one of the best slalom sails I ever used... but sadly being a custom it was never designed for long use/long life.

Getting back to topic, your current board... be it Starboard, Mistral, F2, JP and/or Quatro productions boards, are all designed with input and feedback from team riders.
The result is a board 'produced' by the manufacturer with input from these riders but is NO WAY a replica or copy of the pro team rider's board because the market the production boards of the world are aimed at do not have the skill (in general) to ride them.

The big brands do not make 20 or 30 boards a season... they make thousands of boards.
The volume of their production dictates that the board/s need to be attractive and usable by the general windsurfing market not just elite riders. THis is simple business practice for sure yar ?

Gonewindsurfing247 said...

Is the industry so lame that there is only one shaper in the world worth going to?

No, as there are other shapers who have made boards for pro's and painted them up to look like production boards. There is a couple of examples in WA I have personally seen, but I won't name who and where