Planing across a sheet of glass

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Cluffy
Cluffy
NSW
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20 Dec 2015 10:04pm
It's been a life long sailing fantasy of mine to plane on glassy water. Today at Budgewoi it happened for me. It's probably nothing new for the Budgewoi crew but it was a first for me. Something I'll remember for quite a while.




TristanF
TristanF
VIC
230 posts
VIC, 230 posts
20 Dec 2015 10:19pm
What were you on, and what fin did you use? That water looked pretty shallow!
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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20 Dec 2015 7:30pm
Nothing quite like that sshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sound instead of the DRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr let alone the rattatat.
be warned it gets very addictive. A fun thing to experiment with is the power slide, put a delt in a wide tailed board, and push hard into the gybe, using the lots of rail.
If you go too hard you'll just spin out, but get it right and the tail will just swing out in a controlled slide, brings out the latent hoon in you.
joe windsurf
joe windsurf
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1482 posts
20 Dec 2015 7:32pm
TristanF said..
What were you on ??


is that a 70's question ??
John340
John340
QLD
3429 posts
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20 Dec 2015 10:32pm
When sailing in the smooth, the bottom shape of the board works very efficiently and performs exactly as designed. Hence you plane much earlier and stay on the plane longer through lulls
Simon100
Simon100
QLD
490 posts
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20 Dec 2015 11:12pm
John340 said..
When sailing in the smooth, the bottom shape of the board works very efficiently and performs exactly as designed. Hence you plane much earlier and stay on the plane longer through lulls


I find i need swell to get planing in light conditions i normally wait for a wave more than a gust . They look like great conditions there , how deep is the water ?
anthony perkins
anthony perkins
TAS
391 posts
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21 Dec 2015 7:32am
Sailing the glossy, Nice
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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21 Dec 2015 8:01am
Top video Cluffy. Love the commentary!
Not sure where Cluffy was but I use a 17cms delta and grind a little in places but can go practically anywhere. You can us ea 30cms weedie if you stay out more in the chop or a 20cms delta as a compromise to hit the flats..
Bugger looks like I missed the best day in ages.. Cross fingers for today in the S
Cluffy
Cluffy
NSW
422 posts
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21 Dec 2015 8:33am
My gear was a 7.0 metre and a 90 litre falcon with a 21cm delta. The Depth was about halfway between ankle and knee. Sue I'm hearing you about the 30cm weedie. Even when it gets "choppy" at budgie it's really not choppy at all but the bloody delta fin starts letting go in the little wavelets. It was starting to piss me off actually and the delta feels like a bloody sea anchor at the best of times. I have 28 and 30 cm weedies I think I'll try them next time, especially given the weed situation since the barge paid a visit.
joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
21 Dec 2015 5:44am
My favourite memory of glass like conditions was with an AHD FF 160, 52 cm Select fin and a TR-4 10m² sail
I had to look around to make sure I was actually going fast
There were few sounds to indicate high planing speed
Wonder if that is what it is like hydro-foiling ??
jimbob SA
jimbob SA
SA
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21 Dec 2015 8:35am
anthony perkins said..
Sailing the glossy, Nice

Glossy wiz me boddys
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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21 Dec 2015 9:39am
Cluffy said..
My gear was a 7.0 metre and a 90 litre falcon with a 21cm delta. The Depth was about halfway between ankle and knee. Sue I'm hearing you about the 30cm weedie. Even when it gets "choppy" at budgie it's really not choppy at all but the bloody delta fin starts letting go in the little wavelets. It was starting to piss me off actually and the delta feels like a bloody sea anchor at the best of times. I have 28 and 30 cm weedies I think I'll try them next time, especially given the weed situation since the barge paid a visit.




I've found you have to adjust your sailing position to cope..The locals seem to be able to push against them. I tend to be a bit lead footed . Having said that I actually enjoyed the 20cm delta yesterday
If you use the weedies they should be ok in a NE just don't come in too far.In a S you prob won't be able to sail the glass without the delta unless you go right upwind of the pole but then the wind probably won't get in there..
Pretty sure they didn't use the weedmuncher in there - only SW of the area and canton
Dodosurf
Dodosurf
VIC
37 posts
VIC, 37 posts
21 Dec 2015 10:20am
Love it, glad to hear and see you enjoyed it! made my morning
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
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21 Dec 2015 10:38am
sboardcrazy said..

Cluffy said..
My gear was a 7.0 metre and a 90 litre falcon with a 21cm delta. The Depth was about halfway between ankle and knee. Sue I'm hearing you about the 30cm weedie. Even when it gets "choppy" at budgie it's really not choppy at all but the bloody delta fin starts letting go in the little wavelets. It was starting to piss me off actually and the delta feels like a bloody sea anchor at the best of times. I have 28 and 30 cm weedies I think I'll try them next time, especially given the weed situation since the barge paid a visit.





I've found you have to adjust your sailing position to cope.


I used to have spin out problems with the deltas but rarely do now, even in reasonable chop. The only spin out happens when I am trying to point to high for the wind strength or if the fin is too small. I am not sure what I have changed, because my stance feels the same. It's just practice and getting a feel for the fin I guess.
John340
John340
QLD
3429 posts
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21 Dec 2015 2:06pm
I only spin out when I try to head upwind before I have enough speed. You have to bear away first, to develop speed and hence lift from the fin, before trying to point upwind.
Tinlyds
Tinlyds
NSW
216 posts
NSW, 216 posts
21 Dec 2015 4:50pm
That's awesome, I sat down at Marmong until 3:30 waiting for the NE to come in with my Formula gear and it didn't. I got hammered by the NW but was pretty flat in close. Now I know where to go next big NE.......
ka43
ka43
NSW
3105 posts
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21 Dec 2015 5:45pm
Definitely a few "LG glass sections" out there yesterday. Its a bizarre feeling, you keep thinking "this shouldn't be happening" but you just keep going.
Good footage.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8355 posts
NSW, 8355 posts
21 Dec 2015 6:44pm
Went down there today in the S. Only got one pretty powered short run in the glass and then didn't cop another gust and it died but that one run made it worth it.. Now if only we could get a consistent 20kts of wind in there..even better if more but unlikely this season..
Dezza
Dezza
NSW
956 posts
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21 Dec 2015 7:07pm
Great clip and awesome commentary
pweedas
pweedas
WA
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21 Dec 2015 4:13pm
Long ago in a galaxy far away,.. before kites were invented, it used to be a bit like that on the inside 'pool' at Safety Bay.

Aahhhh,,. those were the days,... apart from running into the occasional mooring line,. or boat,.. or sandbar,.. .

All good fun.

northy1
northy1
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500 posts
21 Dec 2015 9:36pm
GREAT CLIP!!!
byronmc
byronmc
NSW
508 posts
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22 Dec 2015 1:05am
It was pretty sweet that's for sue a bit more wins and it would have been epic
windsurftom
windsurftom
NSW
402 posts
NSW, 402 posts
22 Dec 2015 10:31am
John340 said...
When sailing in the smooth, the bottom shape of the board works very efficiently and performs exactly as designed. Hence you plane much earlier and stay on the plane longer through lulls


Would like to try a board with deep mono/dual concaves there
JKimbler
JKimbler
317 posts
317 posts
22 Dec 2015 4:27pm
I can't even imagine how awesome that must have felt!
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
23 Dec 2015 3:53pm
Deeper glass.

Cluffy
Cluffy
NSW
422 posts
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23 Dec 2015 7:59pm
I'm not sure if an International Moth would be able to foil in wind that light. Foils did wonders for the moth class. I wonder if foiling would make racing in light wind fun for windsurfing again?
joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
23 Dec 2015 11:00pm
what kills me is the sail size - 5 m² ??

and the shark silhouette underneath
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
24 Dec 2015 12:01am
joe windsurf said..
what kills me is the sail size - 5 m² ??

and the shark silhouette underneath


Yeah - 5m seems quite big!

joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
24 Dec 2015 5:58am
WOW - now that is INCREDIBLE -and keeps twin fins in the back ??
3.7 !!! in 12-16 mph winds
for sure "others are using sails twice the size"
i might be on a JP SLW92 with a cambered 10 m² sail in those winds


terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
24 Dec 2015 6:55am
joe windsurf said..
WOW - now that is INCREDIBLE -and keeps twin fins in the back ??
3.7 !!! in 12-16 mph winds
for sure "others are using sails twice the size"
i might be on a JP SLW92 with a cambered 10 m² sail in those winds




Assuming the wind speed is accurate, it doesn't show him getting it foiling, and he may have used a wave.
N1GEL
N1GEL
NSW
861 posts
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24 Dec 2015 11:15am
...and the amount of times I've heard people say windsurfing really flat water is boring. I'm guessing they've never.
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