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Created by aus368 > 9 months ago, 16 Nov 2018
ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
30 Jan 2019 1:42PM
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cammd said..

The current Raceboard Champ was beating all the Phantoms when using an old Fanatic Megacat with gasket issues in a local regatta last year, enter your Speed as a raceboard, if you finish in the top five than blame not winning on your gear but if you come last it will take more than a new Phantom to get to first.

BTW I think saying the entry fee is a donation if you can't win is out of line, these events cost money to put on and the organisers do everything on a volunteer basis for the benefit of the sport, there's no profit being made by anyone. Also the majority of the competitors know they won't win but they participate just for the fun and the challenge and anyway the battles for places doesn't only take place at the front, everyone is racing the person in front or behind.




1. Julien won on a Phantom this year despite beating them all last year ????? Just proves my point... they are everywhere. Why change a winning board.... unless it's because he flew in from France and used a Phantom made available for competitors.

Is is this an option for me? Use a Phantom without buying one has much appeal.

2. Re: rules and size limits. A 70 cm fin in a US box would destroy it. So I'm on a fin half the size which limits upwind performance vs Phantoms. Race over b4 it even starts.

3. I also have a 1987 F2 Lightning World Cup Race which specs say is 13.8 kg but is actually 14.9 kg with CB. BUT if it's under the 18kg RB weight limit ?? I may not be able to use it even if I'm 90kg racing against 60-70 kg sailors on 3kg heavier board. Weight difference is still 20-30 kg so race over b4 it starts. Enter heavyweight class & everyone is probs on Phantom + 9.5m... so back to square 1.

Like many sports, class rules favour the establishment & inadvertently exclude others or at least stop them being competitive. I'm not buying a THIRD race board as the 2 I have are still great boards. Just not competitive... ergo not formal entry... ergo recreational sail alongside albeit out of the way given I can steer it rather well after 30 years practice

Chris 249
NSW, 3215 posts
30 Jan 2019 2:05PM
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But as Cammd says, surely last year's results are proof that you do not need a Phantom to be competitive. If you need a Phantom to win, how come the winner last year didn't use one?

If you don't sail without a foil, how will you know how competitive you are? Your own comparative skill will be an unknown factor therefore if you get beaten with a foil, it will prove nothing.

I haven't sailed a recent Phantom but the last time I raced the nationals, an IMCO with 8.5 was about 4th and a beaten up Equipe II with an 8.5 was sixth with about 39 boards behind it. You didn't need a new board then and you should still be in the pack with an old board now, surely.

ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
30 Jan 2019 2:16PM
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Chris 249 said..
But as Cammd says, surely last year's results are proof that you do not need a Phantom to be competitive. If you need a Phantom to win, how come the winner last year didn't use one?

If you don't sail without a foil, how will you know how competitive you are? Your own comparative skill will be an unknown factor therefore if you get beaten with a foil, it will prove nothing.

I haven't sailed a recent Phantom but the last time I raced the nationals, an IMCO with 8.5 was about 4th and a beaten up Equipe II with an 8.5 was sixth with about 39 boards behind it. You didn't need a new board then and you should still be in the pack with an old board now, surely.




I agree with everything you say. My history is racing regattas 25 years ago against Dave Pitchford & Brendan Todd etc who were superb sailors & whippets.

I'd enter the heavyweight or Grand Master class with 8.5m sail limit - and enjoy competing there provided there are other older RBs. Cammd Aus - 018 came 20th on Phantom so yes, they don't guarantee a podium - and that's not what I'm after. I know the joy of passing someone just ahead in the back of the pack in regattas & mini triathlons so Cammd - I get what you said earlier & totally agree.

But all the regatta pics I see are wall to wall Phantom. They're great boards and I'm not bagging them. I just want to sail in a class where I can compete in skill not $$$ & having the latest equipment.

When I started racing, I was told 7.5m was the sail limit... so got one. Then found out I'm too heavy and should enter heavyweight... with 8.5 limit. So why wasn't I told that in the first place. The arms race started there. I got Speed board & everyone changed to Eliminator etc. Endkess upgrade to best gear which on principle I opted out of a long time ago. Just a whinge I know, but it's still happening and always will - so put up or shut up... or just forget about competing and focus on participating & friendships etc.

but I have that in spades sailing locally already... ergo not entered regatta for 25+ years... but still have an itch

AUS 814
NSW, 452 posts
30 Jan 2019 2:38PM
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Hi Zoltan, the majority of people competing in the NSW RB series are not going to win it even if they had the latest and greatest equipment. In reality its still the nut holding the end of the tiller that is goi g to have the greatest input.Still reckon your best bet is a second hand 9.5 and enter the speed as a RB

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
30 Jan 2019 1:49PM
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+ Julien Savina is on drugs !! Pretty sure he uses the wings to sniff camembert powder !

Chris 249
NSW, 3215 posts
30 Jan 2019 2:53PM
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Chris 249 said..
But as Cammd says, surely last year's results are proof that you do not need a Phantom to be competitive. If you need a Phantom to win, how come the winner last year didn't use one?

If you don't sail without a foil, how will you know how competitive you are? Your own comparative skill will be an unknown factor therefore if you get beaten with a foil, it will prove nothing.

I haven't sailed a recent Phantom but the last time I raced the nationals, an IMCO with 8.5 was about 4th and a beaten up Equipe II with an 8.5 was sixth with about 39 boards behind it. You didn't need a new board then and you should still be in the pack with an old board now, surely.





I agree with everything you say. My history is racing regattas 25 years ago against Dave Pitchford & Brendan Todd etc who were superb sailors & whippets.

I'd enter the heavyweight or Grand Master class with 8.5m sail limit - and enjoy competing there provided there are other older RBs. Cammd Aus - 018 came 20th on Phantom so yes, they don't guarantee a podium - and that's not what I'm after. I know the joy of passing someone just ahead in the back of the pack in regattas & mini triathlons so Cammd - I get what you said earlier & totally agree.

But all the regatta pics I see are wall to wall Phantom. They're great boards and I'm not bagging them. I just want to sail in a class where I can compete in skill not $$$ & having the latest equipment.

When I started racing, I was told 7.5m was the sail limit... so got one. Then found out I'm too heavy and should enter heavyweight... with 8.5 limit. So why wasn't I told that in the first place. The arms race started there. I got Speed board & everyone changed to Eliminator etc. Endkess upgrade to best gear which on principle I opted out of a long time ago. Just a whinge I know, but it's still happening and always will - so put up or shut up... or just forget about competing and focus on participating & friendships etc.

but I have that in spades sailing locally already... ergo not entered regatta for 25+ years... but still have an itch


Ahhh, the upgrade issue is one I understand. I also opted out of it, moving out of the original "Pan Am" class (before the Raceboard term was even coined) to one design dinghies and then to IMCO and Windsurfer when I got back onto boards.

What I was driving at is that if you want to compare the speed of the foiler, you'll first need to race without a foil to get a benchmark to compare against.

ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
30 Jan 2019 2:57PM
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azuli said..

ZoltanL said..
Given the similarities between foil and bat wings, I believe I should be able to enter Raceboard events like the NSW series and the RB Nationals using my 30 year old Speed 250L... with a foil.



Information about raceboard class can be found here: www.raceboard.org

Raceboard class rules are available here: www.sailing.org/37386.php

From C.6 Hull Appendages section of Raceboard class rules:
(b) The distance between any point of a fin to its closest point to the hull shall not exceed 700mm.
(c) The distance between any point of a centerboard to its closest point to the hull shall not exceed 850mm
(d) Any other hull appendage other than the fin and the centerboard is prohibited.

You could email the Raceboard class technical committee to discuss your proposal...
Technical committee emails here: www.raceboard.org/page0213v01.htm

BTW...older raceboards can still win races against the SB Phantoms when sailed well.


THANKS Azuli. Just checked the RB class rules and pleased to find a 14kg board weight limit - which means I can enter with the 1987 F2 Lightning World Cup Race which is 14.9 kg with CB. And yes, on normal fin. The F2 has a slightly deeper Euro box - but I doubt I'll find a 70cm fin to fit. But it will be more competitive than the heavier Speed.

AUS 814
NSW, 452 posts
30 Jan 2019 3:21PM
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Re fin size most people seem to be using around 52cm for their large fin

azuli
QLD, 333 posts
30 Jan 2019 2:24PM
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ZoltanL said..

azuli said..


ZoltanL said..
Given the similarities between foil and bat wings, I believe I should be able to enter Raceboard events like the NSW series and the RB Nationals using my 30 year old Speed 250L... with a foil.




Information about raceboard class can be found here: www.raceboard.org

Raceboard class rules are available here: www.sailing.org/37386.php

From C.6 Hull Appendages section of Raceboard class rules:
(b) The distance between any point of a fin to its closest point to the hull shall not exceed 700mm.
(c) The distance between any point of a centerboard to its closest point to the hull shall not exceed 850mm
(d) Any other hull appendage other than the fin and the centerboard is prohibited.

You could email the Raceboard class technical committee to discuss your proposal...
Technical committee emails here: www.raceboard.org/page0213v01.htm

BTW...older raceboards can still win races against the SB Phantoms when sailed well.



THANKS Azuli. Just checked the RB class rules and pleased to find a 14kg board weight limit - which means I can enter with the 1987 F2 Lightning World Cup Race which is 14.9 kg with CB. And yes, on normal fin. The F2 has a slightly deeper Euro box - but I doubt I'll find a 70cm fin to fit. But it will be more competitive than the heavier Speed.


No probs. 14.9kg is a good weight. The weights that manufacturers quote (eg 13.8kg for your F2) is the stripped weight excl. mastrack, footstraps, CB, fin.
For comparison, a SB Phantom with CB+Fin will be over 2kg heavier...and even more after if it develops a crack

I have not seen any raceboards using a 70cm fin. SB Phantoms come with 52cm fin (deep tuttle). RS:X use 66cm I think, but they are finning upwind from 15kns. In fact some top raceboarders opt for more moderately sized fins from 38-46cm as too much fin is just drag in some cases such as going upwind on the CB, and in non planning conditions.

I have both F2 Lightning and SB Phantom and I would gladly race my F2 in most conditions. Especially non planning, and survival conditions.

ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
30 Jan 2019 3:34PM
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Re fin size most people seem to be using around 52cm for their large fin


Thanks. I've got 45-50 in Tuttle or deep Tuttle but 39 is my longest US box apart from 34 cm vertical depth weed fin - which is gr8 for speed but makes board harder to turn which surprises me. Advice welcome.

ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
30 Jan 2019 3:43PM
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azuli said..

ZoltanL said..


azuli said..



ZoltanL said..
Given the similarities between foil and bat wings, I believe I should be able to enter Raceboard events like the NSW series and the RB Nationals using my 30 year old Speed 250L... with a foil.





Information about raceboard class can be found here: www.raceboard.org

Raceboard class rules are available here: www.sailing.org/37386.php

From C.6 Hull Appendages section of Raceboard class rules:
(b) The distance between any point of a fin to its closest point to the hull shall not exceed 700mm.
(c) The distance between any point of a centerboard to its closest point to the hull shall not exceed 850mm
(d) Any other hull appendage other than the fin and the centerboard is prohibited.

You could email the Raceboard class technical committee to discuss your proposal...
Technical committee emails here: www.raceboard.org/page0213v01.htm

BTW...older raceboards can still win races against the SB Phantoms when sailed well.




THANKS Azuli. Just checked the RB class rules and pleased to find a 14kg board weight limit - which means I can enter with the 1987 F2 Lightning World Cup Race which is 14.9 kg with CB. And yes, on normal fin. The F2 has a slightly deeper Euro box - but I doubt I'll find a 70cm fin to fit. But it will be more competitive than the heavier Speed.



No probs. 14.9kg is a good weight. The weights that manufacturers quote (eg 13.8kg for your F2) is the stripped weight excl. mastrack, footstraps, CB, fin.
For comparison, a SB Phantom with CB+Fin will be over 2kg heavier...and even more after if it develops a crack

I have not seen any raceboards using a 70cm fin. SB Phantoms come with 52cm fin (deep tuttle). RS:X use 66cm I think, but they are finning upwind from 15kns. In fact some top raceboarders opt for more moderately sized fins from 38-46cm as too much fin is just drag in some cases such as going upwind on the CB, and in non planning conditions.

I have both F2 Lightning and SB Phantom and I would gladly race my F2 in most conditions. Especially non planning, and survival conditions.

Agree F2 Lightning & Speed 250L might have an advantage in heavy conditions. I guess that's the beauty if so many races in a regatta. I remember such conditions at Tuggera Lake. Dave Pitchford switched from 250L RB to his 125L slalom board & down to his high-wind Prisna 7.3 (which I later bought off him when he upgraded)... and blitzed the field. I pulled out of the race overpowered and watched from shore

cammd
QLD, 3467 posts
30 Jan 2019 5:02PM
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ZoltanL said..






Chris 249 said..
But as Cammd says, surely last year's results are proof that you do not need a Phantom to be competitive. If you need a Phantom to win, how come the winner last year didn't use one?

If you don't sail without a foil, how will you know how competitive you are? Your own comparative skill will be an unknown factor therefore if you get beaten with a foil, it will prove nothing.

I haven't sailed a recent Phantom but the last time I raced the nationals, an IMCO with 8.5 was about 4th and a beaten up Equipe II with an 8.5 was sixth with about 39 boards behind it. You didn't need a new board then and you should still be in the pack with an old board now, surely.










I agree with everything you say. My history is racing regattas 25 years ago against Dave Pitchford & Brendan Todd etc who were superb sailors & whippets.

I'd enter the heavyweight or Grand Master class with 8.5m sail limit - and enjoy competing there provided there are other older RBs. Cammd Aus - 018 came 20th on Phantom so yes, they don't guarantee a podium - and that's not what I'm after. I know the joy of passing someone just ahead in the back of the pack in regattas & mini triathlons so Cammd - I get what you said earlier & totally agree.

But all the regatta pics I see are wall to wall Phantom. They're great boards and I'm not bagging them. I just want to sail in a class where I can compete in skill not $$$ & having the latest equipment.

When I started racing, I was told 7.5m was the sail limit... so got one. Then found out I'm too heavy and should enter heavyweight... with 8.5 limit. So why wasn't I told that in the first place. The arms race started there. I got Speed board & everyone changed to Eliminator etc. Endkess upgrade to best gear which on principle I opted out of a long time ago. Just a whinge I know, but it's still happening and always will - so put up or shut up... or just forget about competing and focus on participating & friendships etc.

but I have that in spades sailing locally already... ergo not entered regatta for 25+ years... but still have an itch







Ahhh, the upgrade issue is one I understand. I also opted out of it, moving out of the original "Pan Am" class (before the Raceboard term was even coined) to one design dinghies and then to IMCO and Windsurfer when I got back onto boards.








I don't think its a gear war in the Raceboard class, for example the Nationals were won with a secondhand RSX sail, hardly the latest and greatest, its a 20 year old design and known for being a heavy rig.

Whats the cost of campaigning a one design class anyway, I bet the National Laser champion or Finn or Contender or Nacra or 470 or the even the National Opti champ has a bigger budget than the cost of a second hand Phantom and 9.5 sail. The cost of travel, accommodation, entries, food etc for me and my kids to be at Myall Lakes was more than a second hand phantom and that's just one regatta.

If you want to compete in a Nationals and be a real contender its going to cost some money and having the competitive gear is most likely the least of your costs.

Alternatively you can be a weekend warrior and do only one regatta a year for a very modest cost but talking about taking it up to the the best in the country whilst complaining that competitive gear cost's to much doesn't make sense to me.

regal1
NSW, 417 posts
30 Jan 2019 8:56PM
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Or join the windsurfer LT races and sail against other super heavyweights. A bunch of raceboarders backed up from Myall lakes to compete in Toronto NSW with 107 others. An amazing regatta. Freestyle, course racing, marathon & slalom. No foiling that I could see.

ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
31 Jan 2019 7:37AM
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Chris 249 said..
But as Cammd says, surely last year's results are proof that you do not need a Phantom to be competitive. If you need a Phantom to win, how come the winner last year didn't use one?

If you don't sail without a foil, how will you know how competitive you are? Your own comparative skill will be an unknown factor therefore if you get beaten with a foil, it will prove nothing.

I haven't sailed a recent Phantom but the last time I raced the nationals, an IMCO with 8.5 was about 4th and a beaten up Equipe II with an 8.5 was sixth with about 39 boards behind it. You didn't need a new board then and you should still be in the pack with an old board now, surely.



Chris249... Many good points. The key one for me is: "If you get beaten with a foil, it will prove nothing."

Thats exactly what I wanted to test in the first place. If my RB + foil always gets beaten by RB + fin, then it will prove everything I want to know - that despite the extra lift from the foil wings, the extra weight & drag more than offset any gains and actually make the board slower than on fin alone - which is what many think will happen.

As suggested by others, I can ask someone after racing is over for the day to sail against me to find this out. No need to enter a full regatta. That's a totally different matter.

Anyway, had a blast on the F2 Lightning yesterday arvo in gusty NNW up to 25 knots, using 6.6m sail. Only had it a few days after rescuing it from the local tip before it went to landfill. Can only imagine how much faster it would be with a 9.5m RB sail!

Chris 249
NSW, 3215 posts
31 Jan 2019 12:03PM
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Chris 249 said..







ZoltanL said..








Chris 249 said..
But as Cammd says, surely last year's results are proof that you do not need a Phantom to be competitive. If you need a Phantom to win, how come the winner last year didn't use one?

If you don't sail without a foil, how will you know how competitive you are? Your own comparative skill will be an unknown factor therefore if you get beaten with a foil, it will prove nothing.

I haven't sailed a recent Phantom but the last time I raced the nationals, an IMCO with 8.5 was about 4th and a beaten up Equipe II with an 8.5 was sixth with about 39 boards behind it. You didn't need a new board then and you should still be in the pack with an old board now, surely.












I agree with everything you say. My history is racing regattas 25 years ago against Dave Pitchford & Brendan Todd etc who were superb sailors & whippets.

I'd enter the heavyweight or Grand Master class with 8.5m sail limit - and enjoy competing there provided there are other older RBs. Cammd Aus - 018 came 20th on Phantom so yes, they don't guarantee a podium - and that's not what I'm after. I know the joy of passing someone just ahead in the back of the pack in regattas & mini triathlons so Cammd - I get what you said earlier & totally agree.

But all the regatta pics I see are wall to wall Phantom. They're great boards and I'm not bagging them. I just want to sail in a class where I can compete in skill not $$$ & having the latest equipment.

When I started racing, I was told 7.5m was the sail limit... so got one. Then found out I'm too heavy and should enter heavyweight... with 8.5 limit. So why wasn't I told that in the first place. The arms race started there. I got Speed board & everyone changed to Eliminator etc. Endkess upgrade to best gear which on principle I opted out of a long time ago. Just a whinge I know, but it's still happening and always will - so put up or shut up... or just forget about competing and focus on participating & friendships etc.

but I have that in spades sailing locally already... ergo not entered regatta for 25+ years... but still have an itch









Ahhh, the upgrade issue is one I understand. I also opted out of it, moving out of the original "Pan Am" class (before the Raceboard term was even coined) to one design dinghies and then to IMCO and Windsurfer when I got back onto boards.










I don't think its a gear war in the Raceboard class, for example the Nationals were won with a secondhand RSX sail, hardly the latest and greatest, its a 20 year old design and known for being a heavy rig.

Whats the cost of campaigning a one design class anyway, I bet the National Laser champion or Finn or Contender or Nacra or 470 or the even the National Opti champ has a bigger budget than the cost of a second hand Phantom and 9.5 sail. The cost of travel, accommodation, entries, food etc for me and my kids to be at Myall Lakes was more than a second hand phantom and that's just one regatta.

If you want to compete in a Nationals and be a real contender its going to cost some money and having the competitive gear is most likely the least of your costs.

Alternatively you can be a weekend warrior and do only one regatta a year for a very modest cost but talking about taking it up to the the best in the country whilst complaining that competitive gear cost's to much doesn't make sense to me.



My comment was about an earlier era where development was very fast.

As far as costs go, it does depend on where you aim to be and what your definition of "competitive" is. In a post above, I repeated what you said in an earlier post about the current national champion winning events on a Megacat. Yes, you could clearly do quite well on old stuff. On the other hand, given the quality of the gear and sailors it's hard to see anyone finishing in the top 3 without good gear, and that does seem to cost a fair bit.

As you say, campaign costs are significant too but that cuts both ways. If going to a nationals costs $3000 then it can be hard to justify spending all that dough if you've got slow gear and will be at an equipment disadvantage.

By the way, you can be completely competitive at national level in some classes for $1600 for new board, bag and sail+ a leftover OD mast and boom+harness+Aldi wetty+camping costs. Lasers, by the way, are pretty cheap if you consider the huge fleets, the Olympic aspect and resale value.

I love RBs and think they are a great class.

Chris 249
NSW, 3215 posts
31 Jan 2019 12:05PM
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regal1 said..
Or join the windsurfer LT races and sail against other super heavyweights. A bunch of raceboarders backed up from Myall lakes to compete in Toronto NSW with 107 others. An amazing regatta. Freestyle, course racing, marathon & slalom. No foiling that I could see.



Yep, it was a great regatta but Raceboards also feel great to sail and race.

cammd
QLD, 3467 posts
31 Jan 2019 12:42PM
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My comment was about an earlier era where development was very fast.

As far as costs go, it does depend on where you aim to be and what your definition of "competitive" is. In a post above, I repeated what you said in an earlier post about the current national champion winning events on a Megacat. Yes, you could clearly do quite well on old stuff. On the other hand, given the quality of the gear and sailors it's hard to see anyone finishing in the top 3 without good gear, and that does seem to cost a fair bit.

As you say, campaign costs are significant too but that cuts both ways. If going to a nationals costs $3000 then it can be hard to justify spending all that dough if you've got slow gear and will be at an equipment disadvantage.

By the way, you can be completely competitive at national level in some classes for $1600 for new board, bag and sail+ a leftover OD mast and boom+harness+Aldi wetty+camping costs. Lasers, by the way, are pretty cheap if you consider the huge fleets, the Olympic aspect and resale value.

I love RBs and think they are a great class.


$1600 is a very low entry cost for gear and the proof is plain to see with the number of entries. It would be great if new raceboards were cheaper no doubt we would have more show up to a Regatta but the chances of that happening are pretty low.

I think campaign costs are generally more than equipment costs if you intend to do a few regatta's a year and participate in regular weekend racing. So even for a developing class like foils it could cost 10K to set up but spread over a few years the cost per year reduces on the equipment even if you need to update the foil wings chances are the board, foil mast and rig will remain competitive until they wear out. A Laser sail still needs to be upgraded when it wears out even if the design remains the same.

Campaign cost's ie entries, memberships, travel etc don't really vary between a one design or box rule classes.

I must admit I don't understand the wallies in Qld, they want to race but seem stuck in a mindset that it should cost nothing or very little, they are welcome to come and race at RQ and granted it is not the cheapest club but a year membership and season race fee's would be less than what it would cost to do one regatta away from home and that's racing from Sept to April every Saturday with a break over January, over 50 Races with full support, scoring, safety vessels etc in one of the best facilities in Australia, that's great value in mind. Surely by spending a bit more on "campaign cost's" you get far more value from your gear.

I think as a sport we should not be prompting the cheapest option for competition we should promote value with an expectation that it will cost some money and the cost of the gear is only a part of that.

kingbily
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8 Feb 2019 12:42AM
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A big jump in youth and female sailor numbers has been a feature of the 2019 Raceboard Nationals at Myall Lakes in NSW. The event (20-23 of January) was held with the Formula Nationals and attracted a combined fleet of 47 boards, including 35 Raceboards - up from the previous year in Brisbane where 29 boards competed.

The Raceboard Overall trophy was lifted by Brisbane-based Julien Savina, who has competed in Mistral and RSX World Championships for his native France, and trialled for French Olympic selection for Athens. Julien finished best-placed Australian in the recent Windfoil Oceanics. But he didn't have it all his own way, with strong performances from defending champion Cam Harrison, and rising star Grae Morris, who notched up 4 wins and sailed well beyond his 15 years. Grae took out the NSW Raceboard Titles this season, and came second in the Australian Youth Championships in Hobart on the Bic Techno Plus.
Keeping it in the family, Grae's dad Brett Morris took out the Formula event, from Leo Sharp and Rick Murray. Grae was one of the 11 sailors under 21 years of age competing in the Raceboards, a big increase on youth numbers of previous years. And in another advance, six women competed in Raceboards, with another two battling it out in the Formula.

Across the two fleets, there were also seven sailors over 60, proving the growing appeal of the sport across the demographics.

There was some close racing in the 8.5m fleet, but youth sailor Vaughn O???Shea dominated the pointy end, winning all but two races. Max Irvine (Youth, RQYS) was second, with Tony Matta (Grand Master, Lake Cootharaba) third. Hailey Lea (Lake Cootharaba), who was third youth overall, came in fourth, and was the first female in 8.5m.

Conditions were predominantly light, with lots of sore hands and blisters to attest to the number of pumping races. Thirteen of a possible 15 races were achieved, whilst the Formula fleet did a lot more beach-sitting, with five races completed across the four days.

Thanks go to our PRO, John O'Brien, who volunteered his time to travel from Brisbane to manage the racing. He worked seamlessly with mark boat skipper Craig Ferris, and was assisted by volunteers Karen Murden, Conor Coleman, Brad Younger and Sue Plodr. Great photos from David "Belly" Bell.

Posting updates was tricky given the lack of connectivity, but the location was very picturesque and it was a great venue for social events, with virtually everyone on site together.

Next year the Nationals will be in Brisbane, at RQYS. Dates will be confirmed shortly

AUS817
NSW, 391 posts
8 Feb 2019 7:30AM
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@Zoltanl

Since learning to windsurf in 1982 on an original Windsurfer (pull out daggerboard with alloy boom and Dacron rig) I have enjoyed competing at local, state, national and international regattas. In the mid 1980's I switched to Raceboards (originally named Funboard), Div II and have dabbled for a season on Formula (hated it) and recently on foils.

I have been privelidged over the years to sail against the very best windsurfer sailors our country has produced, including every single Australian Olympic representative and have beaten most if not all on a given day, usually on less expensive gear in most cases, I can't tell you how good that feeling is when it happens. And it's proof that you don't need the latest and greatest to best the best - not always.

During the 1980's I sailed at Club level extensively against Chris Lawrence (1988 Olympic rep) and his brother Brad. Chris sailed a range of Mistral boards, mostly the Mistral Equipe in the later years and Brad a Speed 250L, while I sailed F2 Lightnings (various generations) all much lower in volume than your current F2 Lightning. The racing was almost always tight and any one of us could win on any given day. Granted Chris when sailing full time developed better skills and made fewer mistakes, but he wasn't unbeatable.

After a few years away from the sport I returned to the Raceboard fleet around 2010 on a used 1993 F2 Lightning with a used Sailworks NX2 9.0m and was competing against the more modern Phantom 377's with more modern 9.5m Raceboard Rigs. While I wasn't winning races, I soon found myself not too far from the leaders (top 5-10 on a regular basis) and by the end of the season I was managing the occasional top 3 placing.

Due to financial pressures I couldn't afford to upgrade to a new board, but I did upgrade to a used Raceboard 9.5m for the following season, which significantly improved my placings to the top 5 with the occasional race win.

The following year I upgraded to a used Phantom 377 which I still own and race (current fully laiden weight 18.2kg) and yes my progression continued, albeit only slightly. The only real benefit of the Phantom in my opinion is in marginal planing conditions (it will get planing a little sooner and will stay planing slightly longer). In lighter non planing conditions I would say there is zero difference and in stronger fully planing conditions the F2 is just as fast, easier to control and much better to gybe! At the 2016 Raceboard world's, Justin Lord (NSW Raceboard and Formula sailor) led the fleet to the top mark on an Exocet RS380 (no bat wings pintail design). Justin is a regular at the NSW Raceboard summer series and is seriously competitive so no you don't need bat wings to win.

As for fin sizes I use either a Drake 54, Drake 50 or a Gun Sails 44 weed fin, but Lea Sitja regularly uses a 38 pointer. Note Lea was 5th or 6th at the 2016 world's, against the best of the best. So forget needing a massive fin.

While the equipment upgrades without doubt assisted my progression to the front of the fleet, the one thing that really helped was my fitness. After 15 years away from competitive racing, I was extremely unfit and it took me a good 2 years to get anywhere near where I needed to be, (Raceboards are very physical if you want to win a single race let alone a regatta). Ask Cam Harrison that, he beat Julien Savina to the top mark in a number of the Raceboard National races, only to be mowed down on the downwind leg by Julien. It's clear the rest of the Raceboard fleet need to work harder on our downwind pumping. Julien set a new level! #impressive.

We have 3 more events left in the 2018/2019 NSW Raceboard summer series (Kurnell 17-Feb, Woolahra 3-Mar and St George 9-Mar). I challenge you to bring your Speed 250L to one or all of these events and race it as a standard Raceboard. I'll even loan you a reasonably current 9.5m Raceboard sail (you'll need a 520-550 mast and a boom aprox 255cm long). At least then you'll have a benchmark to compare your foil experiment against and who knows you may fall in love with Raceboards as they are. They're pretty awesome!

ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
8 Feb 2019 2:31PM
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@Zoltanl

Since learning to windsurf in 1982 on an original Windsurfer (pull out daggerboard with alloy boom and Dacron rig) I have enjoyed competing at local, state, national and international regattas. In the mid 1980's I switched to Raceboards (originally named Funboard), Div II and have dabbled for a season on Formula (hated it) and recently on foils.

I have been privelidged over the years to sail against the very best windsurfer sailors our country has produced, including every single Australian Olympic representative and have beaten most if not all on a given day, usually on less expensive gear in most cases, I can't tell you how good that feeling is when it happens. And it's proof that you don't need the latest and greatest to best the best - not always.

During the 1980's I sailed at Club level extensively against Chris Lawrence (1988 Olympic rep) and his brother Brad. Chris sailed a range of Mistral boards, mostly the Mistral Equipe in the later years and Brad a Speed 250L, while I sailed F2 Lightnings (various generations) all much lower in volume than your current F2 Lightning. The racing was almost always tight and any one of us could win on any given day. Granted Chris when sailing full time developed better skills and made fewer mistakes, but he wasn't unbeatable.

After a few years away from the sport I returned to the Raceboard fleet around 2010 on a used 1993 F2 Lightning with a used Sailworks NX2 9.0m and was competing against the more modern Phantom 377's with more modern 9.5m Raceboard Rigs. While I wasn't winning races, I soon found myself not too far from the leaders (top 5-10 on a regular basis) and by the end of the season I was managing the occasional top 3 placing.

Due to financial pressures I couldn't afford to upgrade to a new board, but I did upgrade to a used Raceboard 9.5m for the following season, which significantly improved my placings to the top 5 with the occasional race win.

The following year I upgraded to a used Phantom 377 which I still own and race (current fully laiden weight 18.2kg) and yes my progression continued, albeit only slightly. The only real benefit of the Phantom in my opinion is in marginal planing conditions (it will get planing a little sooner and will stay planing slightly longer). In lighter non planing conditions I would say there is zero difference and in stronger fully planing conditions the F2 is just as fast, easier to control and much better to gybe! At the 2016 Raceboard world's, Justin Lord (NSW Raceboard and Formula sailor) led the fleet to the top mark on an Exocet RS380 (no bat wings pintail design). Justin is a regular at the NSW Raceboard summer series and is seriously competitive so no you don't need bat wings to win.

As for fin sizes I use either a Drake 54, Drake 50 or a Gun Sails 44 weed fin, but Lea Sitja regularly uses a 38 pointer. Note Lea was 5th or 6th at the 2016 world's, against the best of the best. So forget needing a massive fin.

While the equipment upgrades without doubt assisted my progression to the front of the fleet, the one thing that really helped was my fitness. After 15 years away from competitive racing, I was extremely unfit and it took me a good 2 years to get anywhere near where I needed to be, (Raceboards are very physical if you want to win a single race let alone a regatta). Ask Cam Harrison that, he beat Julien Savina to the top mark in a number of the Raceboard National races, only to be mowed down on the downwind leg by Julien. It's clear the rest of the Raceboard fleet need to work harder on our downwind pumping. Julien set a new level! #impressive.

We have 3 more events left in the 2018/2019 NSW Raceboard summer series (Kurnell 17-Feb, Woolahra 3-Mar and St George 9-Mar). I challenge you to bring your Speed 250L to one or all of these events and race it as a standard Raceboard. I'll even loan you a reasonably current 9.5m Raceboard sail (you'll need a 520-550 mast and a boom aprox 255cm long). At least then you'll have a benchmark to compare your foil experiment against and who knows you may fall in love with Raceboards as they are. They're pretty awesome!

Hi Aus817,
Thanks for taking such time and effort to write such a detailed post... and the offer to loan me a 9.5m sail.

I'd love to sail all 3 remaining NSW races for the season, but am struggling with balance for the past week after sudden onset of acute vertigo last Friday. Currently walking like a staggering drunk & under doctors orders to rest & not drive, windsurf or ride my bike for at least 5-10 days or until the vertigo symptoms go away. That aside, I happily accept your challenge to enter some events in the NSW RB series. Even if I can't make the next 3, I'm keen to give it a try next season.

I've lined up a 9.5m to buy... just gotta get well & back driving so I can pick it up. If it falls through, I'd love to borrow your old 9.5m. I've never used anything that big before :D

Thanks!
Zoltan

AUS817
NSW, 391 posts
8 Feb 2019 5:37PM
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AUS817 said..
@Zoltanl

Since learning to windsurf in 1982 on an original Windsurfer (pull out daggerboard with alloy boom and Dacron rig) I have enjoyed competing at local, state, national and international regattas. In the mid 1980's I switched to Raceboards (originally named Funboard), Div II and have dabbled for a season on Formula (hated it) and recently on foils.

I have been privelidged over the years to sail against the very best windsurfer sailors our country has produced, including every single Australian Olympic representative and have beaten most if not all on a given day, usually on less expensive gear in most cases, I can't tell you how good that feeling is when it happens. And it's proof that you don't need the latest and greatest to best the best - not always.

During the 1980's I sailed at Club level extensively against Chris Lawrence (1988 Olympic rep) and his brother Brad. Chris sailed a range of Mistral boards, mostly the Mistral Equipe in the later years and Brad a Speed 250L, while I sailed F2 Lightnings (various generations) all much lower in volume than your current F2 Lightning. The racing was almost always tight and any one of us could win on any given day. Granted Chris when sailing full time developed better skills and made fewer mistakes, but he wasn't unbeatable.

After a few years away from the sport I returned to the Raceboard fleet around 2010 on a used 1993 F2 Lightning with a used Sailworks NX2 9.0m and was competing against the more modern Phantom 377's with more modern 9.5m Raceboard Rigs. While I wasn't winning races, I soon found myself not too far from the leaders (top 5-10 on a regular basis) and by the end of the season I was managing the occasional top 3 placing.

Due to financial pressures I couldn't afford to upgrade to a new board, but I did upgrade to a used Raceboard 9.5m for the following season, which significantly improved my placings to the top 5 with the occasional race win.

The following year I upgraded to a used Phantom 377 which I still own and race (current fully laiden weight 18.2kg) and yes my progression continued, albeit only slightly. The only real benefit of the Phantom in my opinion is in marginal planing conditions (it will get planing a little sooner and will stay planing slightly longer). In lighter non planing conditions I would say there is zero difference and in stronger fully planing conditions the F2 is just as fast, easier to control and much better to gybe! At the 2016 Raceboard world's, Justin Lord (NSW Raceboard and Formula sailor) led the fleet to the top mark on an Exocet RS380 (no bat wings pintail design). Justin is a regular at the NSW Raceboard summer series and is seriously competitive so no you don't need bat wings to win.

As for fin sizes I use either a Drake 54, Drake 50 or a Gun Sails 44 weed fin, but Lea Sitja regularly uses a 38 pointer. Note Lea was 5th or 6th at the 2016 world's, against the best of the best. So forget needing a massive fin.

While the equipment upgrades without doubt assisted my progression to the front of the fleet, the one thing that really helped was my fitness. After 15 years away from competitive racing, I was extremely unfit and it took me a good 2 years to get anywhere near where I needed to be, (Raceboards are very physical if you want to win a single race let alone a regatta). Ask Cam Harrison that, he beat Julien Savina to the top mark in a number of the Raceboard National races, only to be mowed down on the downwind leg by Julien. It's clear the rest of the Raceboard fleet need to work harder on our downwind pumping. Julien set a new level! #impressive.

We have 3 more events left in the 2018/2019 NSW Raceboard summer series (Kurnell 17-Feb, Woolahra 3-Mar and St George 9-Mar). I challenge you to bring your Speed 250L to one or all of these events and race it as a standard Raceboard. I'll even loan you a reasonably current 9.5m Raceboard sail (you'll need a 520-550 mast and a boom aprox 255cm long). At least then you'll have a benchmark to compare your foil experiment against and who knows you may fall in love with Raceboards as they are. They're pretty awesome!


Hi Aus817,
Thanks for taking such time and effort to write such a detailed post... and the offer to loan me a 9.5m sail.

I'd love to sail all 3 remaining NSW races for the season, but am struggling with balance for the past week after sudden onset of acute vertigo last Friday. Currently walking like a staggering drunk & under doctors orders to rest & not drive, windsurf or ride my bike for at least 5-10 days or until the vertigo symptoms go away. That aside, I happily accept your challenge to enter some events in the NSW RB series. Even if I can't make the next 3, I'm keen to give it a try next season.

I've lined up a 9.5m to buy... just gotta get well & back driving so I can pick it up. If it falls through, I'd love to borrow your old 9.5m. I've never used anything that big before :D

Thanks!
Zoltan


Well hopefully the vertigo symptoms subside soon.

I have a couple of old 9.5m Rigs you could choose from, an RS:X 9.5 if you think your up to beating us all Julien Savina style, or my 2016 Loft Raceboard Blade LW.

They do take a little getting used to but it'll be a new challenge for you

I'd suggest bringing both your boards and choose which one to use depending on the wind on the day The Raceboard crew are all very welcoming and will be glad to have you join us.

See you soon.
John

ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
9 Feb 2019 9:16PM
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AUS817 said..
@Zoltanl

Since learning to windsurf in 1982 on an original Windsurfer (pull out daggerboard with alloy boom and Dacron rig) I have enjoyed competing at local, state, national and international regattas. In the mid 1980's I switched to Raceboards (originally named Funboard), Div II and have dabbled for a season on Formula (hated it) and recently on foils.

I have been privelidged over the years to sail against the very best windsurfer sailors our country has produced, including every single Australian Olympic representative and have beaten most if not all on a given day, usually on less expensive gear in most cases, I can't tell you how good that feeling is when it happens. And it's proof that you don't need the latest and greatest to best the best - not always.

During the 1980's I sailed at Club level extensively against Chris Lawrence (1988 Olympic rep) and his brother Brad. Chris sailed a range of Mistral boards, mostly the Mistral Equipe in the later years and Brad a Speed 250L, while I sailed F2 Lightnings (various generations) all much lower in volume than your current F2 Lightning. The racing was almost always tight and any one of us could win on any given day. Granted Chris when sailing full time developed better skills and made fewer mistakes, but he wasn't unbeatable.

After a few years away from the sport I returned to the Raceboard fleet around 2010 on a used 1993 F2 Lightning with a used Sailworks NX2 9.0m and was competing against the more modern Phantom 377's with more modern 9.5m Raceboard Rigs. While I wasn't winning races, I soon found myself not too far from the leaders (top 5-10 on a regular basis) and by the end of the season I was managing the occasional top 3 placing.

Due to financial pressures I couldn't afford to upgrade to a new board, but I did upgrade to a used Raceboard 9.5m for the following season, which significantly improved my placings to the top 5 with the occasional race win.

The following year I upgraded to a used Phantom 377 which I still own and race (current fully laiden weight 18.2kg) and yes my progression continued, albeit only slightly. The only real benefit of the Phantom in my opinion is in marginal planing conditions (it will get planing a little sooner and will stay planing slightly longer). In lighter non planing conditions I would say there is zero difference and in stronger fully planing conditions the F2 is just as fast, easier to control and much better to gybe! At the 2016 Raceboard world's, Justin Lord (NSW Raceboard and Formula sailor) led the fleet to the top mark on an Exocet RS380 (no bat wings pintail design). Justin is a regular at the NSW Raceboard summer series and is seriously competitive so no you don't need bat wings to win.

As for fin sizes I use either a Drake 54, Drake 50 or a Gun Sails 44 weed fin, but Lea Sitja regularly uses a 38 pointer. Note Lea was 5th or 6th at the 2016 world's, against the best of the best. So forget needing a massive fin.

While the equipment upgrades without doubt assisted my progression to the front of the fleet, the one thing that really helped was my fitness. After 15 years away from competitive racing, I was extremely unfit and it took me a good 2 years to get anywhere near where I needed to be, (Raceboards are very physical if you want to win a single race let alone a regatta). Ask Cam Harrison that, he beat Julien Savina to the top mark in a number of the Raceboard National races, only to be mowed down on the downwind leg by Julien. It's clear the rest of the Raceboard fleet need to work harder on our downwind pumping. Julien set a new level! #impressive.

We have 3 more events left in the 2018/2019 NSW Raceboard summer series (Kurnell 17-Feb, Woolahra 3-Mar and St George 9-Mar). I challenge you to bring your Speed 250L to one or all of these events and race it as a standard Raceboard. I'll even loan you a reasonably current 9.5m Raceboard sail (you'll need a 520-550 mast and a boom aprox 255cm long). At least then you'll have a benchmark to compare your foil experiment against and who knows you may fall in love with Raceboards as they are. They're pretty awesome!






Hi Aus817,
Thanks for taking such time and effort to write such a detailed post... and the offer to loan me a 9.5m sail.

I'd love to sail all 3 remaining NSW races for the season, but am struggling with balance for the past week after sudden onset of acute vertigo last Friday. Currently walking like a staggering drunk & under doctors orders to rest & not drive, windsurf or ride my bike for at least 5-10 days or until the vertigo symptoms go away. That aside, I happily accept your challenge to enter some events in the NSW RB series. Even if I can't make the next 3, I'm keen to give it a try next season.

I've lined up a 9.5m to buy... just gotta get well & back driving so I can pick it up. If it falls through, I'd love to borrow your old 9.5m. I've never used anything that big before :D

Thanks!
Zoltan






Well hopefully the vertigo symptoms subside soon.

I have a couple of old 9.5m Rigs you could choose from, an RS:X 9.5 if you think your up to beating us all Julien Savina style, or my 2016 Loft Raceboard Blade LW.

They do take a little getting used to but it'll be a new challenge for you

I'd suggest bringing both your boards and choose which one to use depending on the wind on the day The Raceboard crew are all very welcoming and will be glad to have you join us.

See you soon.
John


John... seriously... the only thing 'Julienned' will be my carrots LOL
I don't know either sail, but generally like full cam deep draft sails. My current biggie is a patched up old 8.5m Arrows sail AUS 18 that I think used to be raced by Dennis Winstanley. I paid $10 for it at the local tip recycling depot a few years ago and love it to bits. Power for $$ it's my best ever purchase !!! Also have a beautiful 8.0m Hot Sails Maui Grand Prix Speed (GPS). Not averse to buying new and can easily afford... just need a good value proposition to justify it as I have way too much gear already ;D


ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
17 Feb 2019 11:52AM
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@Zoltanl

Since learning to windsurf in 1982 on an original Windsurfer (pull out daggerboard with alloy boom and Dacron rig) I have enjoyed competing at local, state, national and international regattas. In the mid 1980's I switched to Raceboards (originally named Funboard), Div II and have dabbled for a season on Formula (hated it) and recently on foils.

I have been privelidged over the years to sail against the very best windsurfer sailors our country has produced, including every single Australian Olympic representative and have beaten most if not all on a given day, usually on less expensive gear in most cases, I can't tell you how good that feeling is when it happens. And it's proof that you don't need the latest and greatest to best the best - not always.

During the 1980's I sailed at Club level extensively against Chris Lawrence (1988 Olympic rep) and his brother Brad. Chris sailed a range of Mistral boards, mostly the Mistral Equipe in the later years and Brad a Speed 250L, while I sailed F2 Lightnings (various generations) all much lower in volume than your current F2 Lightning. The racing was almost always tight and any one of us could win on any given day. Granted Chris when sailing full time developed better skills and made fewer mistakes, but he wasn't unbeatable.

After a few years away from the sport I returned to the Raceboard fleet around 2010 on a used 1993 F2 Lightning with a used Sailworks NX2 9.0m and was competing against the more modern Phantom 377's with more modern 9.5m Raceboard Rigs. While I wasn't winning races, I soon found myself not too far from the leaders (top 5-10 on a regular basis) and by the end of the season I was managing the occasional top 3 placing.

Due to financial pressures I couldn't afford to upgrade to a new board, but I did upgrade to a used Raceboard 9.5m for the following season, which significantly improved my placings to the top 5 with the occasional race win.

The following year I upgraded to a used Phantom 377 which I still own and race (current fully laiden weight 18.2kg) and yes my progression continued, albeit only slightly. The only real benefit of the Phantom in my opinion is in marginal planing conditions (it will get planing a little sooner and will stay planing slightly longer). In lighter non planing conditions I would say there is zero difference and in stronger fully planing conditions the F2 is just as fast, easier to control and much better to gybe! At the 2016 Raceboard world's, Justin Lord (NSW Raceboard and Formula sailor) led the fleet to the top mark on an Exocet RS380 (no bat wings pintail design). Justin is a regular at the NSW Raceboard summer series and is seriously competitive so no you don't need bat wings to win.

As for fin sizes I use either a Drake 54, Drake 50 or a Gun Sails 44 weed fin, but Lea Sitja regularly uses a 38 pointer. Note Lea was 5th or 6th at the 2016 world's, against the best of the best. So forget needing a massive fin.

While the equipment upgrades without doubt assisted my progression to the front of the fleet, the one thing that really helped was my fitness. After 15 years away from competitive racing, I was extremely unfit and it took me a good 2 years to get anywhere near where I needed to be, (Raceboards are very physical if you want to win a single race let alone a regatta). Ask Cam Harrison that, he beat Julien Savina to the top mark in a number of the Raceboard National races, only to be mowed down on the downwind leg by Julien. It's clear the rest of the Raceboard fleet need to work harder on our downwind pumping. Julien set a new level! #impressive.

We have 3 more events left in the 2018/2019 NSW Raceboard summer series (Kurnell 17-Feb, Woolahra 3-Mar and St George 9-Mar). I challenge you to bring your Speed 250L to one or all of these events and race it as a standard Raceboard. I'll even loan you a reasonably current 9.5m Raceboard sail (you'll need a 520-550 mast and a boom aprox 255cm long). At least then you'll have a benchmark to compare your foil experiment against and who knows you may fall in love with Raceboards as they are. They're pretty awesome!


Aus817.... Can't make Kurnell today, but feeling pretty good these last 2 days, so I'm aiming to enter the NSW regattas at both Woolahra and St George's (Basin?) in March. Hope to see you all there... on a fin.
z

ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
26 Feb 2019 6:39AM
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About 80-90% over the vertigo and now sailing RB and riding road bike so all looking good to attend NSW RB regatta. I can't make 3 March - so all going well I'll be at the St George's event on 9th March. Can I confirm it's St George's sailing club in Botany Bay a bit down from Kyeemagh and not St George's Basin near Jarvis Bay.
Thanks, Zoltan

AUS60
NSW, 8 posts
26 Feb 2019 9:26AM
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Yes next to the Captain Cook Bridge, 2 Riverside Drive San Souci

ZoltanL
ACT, 130 posts
8 Mar 2019 4:10PM
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Yes next to the Captain Cook Bridge, 2 Riverside Drive San Souci


Wind and weather forecast for Botany Bay tomorrow are poor - 70% chance of rain; thunderstorms in a'noon; and 20km (10 knot) wind.

So, I'm giving tomorrow a miss and will race my boat here in ACT on Sunday.

Goid luck tomorrow to everyone and see you next season ??????

regal1
NSW, 417 posts
8 Mar 2019 9:44PM
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Yeah nah, come on up. Sounds like perfect raceboard conditions. What's your sail number?

NeilD
NSW, 7 posts
18 Mar 2019 4:43PM
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Hi ZoltanL,

I just found your vids on youtube. Couldn't help notice you are riding my old Speed250L (albeit with a foil attached!!)I've just taken up sailing again after a 22year hiatus. Now wishing I hadn't sold it... :-)



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