Rig lost at Dutch Inn

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Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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13 Mar 2013 1:42pm
Easier is rescued rig goes upside down, so no stuffing around with booms. Bloody hard to waterstart though!

Can be possible to fly one sail, have the other person carefully fly the other sail and slot if over the top of the good one, then tie downhals to mast tips. That makes the waterstart easy but the angle to the wind has to be really spot on to do it.
FlickySpinny
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14 Mar 2013 10:11am
Sailhack said...

That makes sense - and a good one for the memory bank, thanks. So basically, you thread the detached rig down (or up) through the gap between your sail & boom & fasten booms with the outhaul, or (in theory) it should just stay there. Grip both booms for the trip back in.


Yup, although I haven't fastened the booms with the outhaul when I've done it. It should stay there reasonably well. It's not exactly comfortable sailing getting home, but it's not too bad and most people who can competently waterstart should be able to manage it.
Windxtasy
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14 Mar 2013 10:34am
FlickySpinny said...


2) Slot the rig to be rescued over the top of the good rig. Put the mast on the leeward side of the good rig. Because the boom has been lengthened the boom of the rescued rig should sit right on top of the boom of the good rig.




This is counter intuitive. Why do you put it on the leeward side?
I would have thought it would fit more easily on the windward side and wouldn't interfere with flow of air over the sail as much.
sboardcrazy
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14 Mar 2013 1:41pm
I dont understand how the booms fit..Have you fed the rescue boom over the mast..? Otherwise wouldnt it stick out on the other side..?
Mark _australia
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14 Mar 2013 10:44am
sboardcrazy said...
I dont understand how the booms fit..Have you fed the rescue boom over the mast..? Otherwise wouldnt it stick out on the other side..?


That is why rescued rig upside down is easier as it slides over the mast easily (sail has less chord up the top)
(apparently not based on redthumbs )
That was was in every rescue article I've seen. Slot two rigs together on dry land and it will be easily apparent how it works. No need to lengthen booms and redo outhaul.
sboardcrazy
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14 Mar 2013 2:49pm
Mark _australia said...
sboardcrazy said...
I dont understand how the booms fit..Have you fed the rescue boom over the mast..? Otherwise wouldnt it stick out on the other side..?


That is why rescued rig upside down is easier as it slides over the mast easily (sail has less chord up the top)
(apparently not based on redthumbs )
That was was in every rescue article I've seen. Slot two rigs together on dry land and it will be easily apparent how it works. No need to lengthen booms and redo outhaul.


any article with pics..?
Mark _australia
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14 Mar 2013 12:13pm
Can't find one....... I think it is all from back when we had books to read about windsurfing and nothing seems to be on the interwebs.

Basically be ready in waterstart position coming back in.
slide broken rig, mast tip first, over top of the good rig (so it will be to leeward side)
tie tip to extension on each rig

Imagine when sailing - the other rig is upside down on leeward side and you will have the boom of the stuffed rig above your head. The only part of the stuffed rig that is to windward side, is half of it's boom.

This avoids fragging around releasing outhaul and extending the booms to make them slideover, and then doing up outhaul. Also the rigs are lashed together with spare downhaul length which is considerably longer than outhaul in most cases
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FlickySpinny
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14 Mar 2013 9:52pm

Awesome find... that's it.

The reason I find that you have to lengthen the boom is because so many sails have cutaways for the boom these days (or at least, for the sails I've rescued).

Can't imaging having a sail upside down - sounds like a total headache.

Windxtasy - if you've got your good rig that's attached to the board as the windward rig, I've found it's easier to waterstart as you're essentially using your rig which is attached to your board. If you've got the rescued rig closest to you then I've found it more difficult to get everything in position and flying. I've no doubt it could be done either way around though.
Sailhack
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15 Mar 2013 9:46am
Not sure I'd like to be bouncing about with my arm through a footstrap and the fin pointing at both the sail & my ribs! I'd rather tie my uphaul to the back footstraps on both boards & tow it that way.
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