Spinning out

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Corkers
Corkers
NSW
154 posts
NSW, 154 posts
5 Dec 2007 12:52am
Need some advise from you pros, in my second season of windsufing (flat water) and just started to get the feel of going pretty fast and loving it! Only problem is i seem to be doing a lot of spinning out (loosing traction of the fin). Whats the most common reason for this... wrong fin size, poor stance maybe?? When i spin out my mate overtakes me....... this is no good!
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
4 Dec 2007 11:10pm
Here is the site I forgot to send you.
www.fortboise.org/windsurfing/spinout.faq.html
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
5 Dec 2007 1:21am
Corkers,

Best advice I got was not so much pressure (pushing sideways) on back foot. Move harness lines back, and put more pressure on forward foot.

You'll possibly find that you slide-out more heading in one direction, more than the other...if you're right-handed, when you're on a left-tack?!? Slide-out maybe due to not balancing weight between legs evenly.

Try moving weight forward next time, and pushing down, not out with back foot?

Worked for me......my 2 cents...
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
4 Dec 2007 11:39pm
There are soo many "causes" it's hard to know where to start.

Basically it's because the fin can't handle the side ways force of your back foot fin stalls, laminar flow ceases and ventilation occurs, (air is sucked down fin)

causes are
Bad sail setting, (not enough downhaul/outhaul) can mean sail makes more sideways force than forward lift. increasing downhaul (if there wasn't enough) means more forward lift from sail, more speed, thus more sideways lift from fin.

Sheeting on too hard before up to speed, some fins designed more for speed, don't have a great angle of attack, and will stall when loaded at low speeds, you have to ease them up to speed before fully loading them.

Damaged fin, nicks and other fin damage can cause turbulent flow, decreasing lift.

Harness line position, if your lines are too far forward, your back hand pressure to sheet in is transfered to your back foot. Make sure your lines are neutral, and back hand pressure is minimal.

And as I've found out, a raked fin with too thick a front edge handles a great angle of attack, but doesn't like high speed.
Like wise a fin with too fine a leading edge goes fast OK but won't handle as big an angle of attack, so it will stall earlier if you push it especially upwind.

OK that's enough from me, undoubtedly others will think of the ones I've missed.
Bender
Bender
WA
2236 posts
WA, 2236 posts
4 Dec 2007 11:45pm
boom not high enough so more weight on your feet. Try raising the boom as this will increase mast foot pressure as you will commit more weight to the harness. As a result there will be less pressure through your legs so less push on the fin.

Thats my 2cents
puffin
puffin
235 posts
235 posts
5 Dec 2007 1:37am
most of the time when I'm spinning out my fin is a bit loose in the fin box. If there's any play at all to it, I'm going to spin. Fins work themselves loose over time...grab your fin and push it sideways...if there's any looseness at all you'll feel it immediately. Then tighten.
555
555
892 posts
555 555
892 posts
5 Dec 2007 7:03am
Check out this earlier thread..
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=31010

Between there and here, most things are well covered!
sonic
sonic
QLD
756 posts
QLD, 756 posts
5 Dec 2007 8:58am
It is usually bad technique or a poor fin as most have advised,however if your newish to this the smallest bit of seagrass/weed can spin you out, experience tells you the subtle diffrence, even the noise but just remember its not always the kit or sailor.
Corkers
Corkers
NSW
154 posts
NSW, 154 posts
5 Dec 2007 1:42pm
Thanks everyone, this is all great advice! I am definately sailing with too much back foot pressure, so will move harness lines back (and higher boom) and try to keep slightly more weight on front foot. Downhaul could be a factor too, am always having to much fun to come in and give more downhaul when wind picks up...
Cheers
Paul Kelf
Paul Kelf
WA
678 posts
WA, 678 posts
5 Dec 2007 3:02pm
Corkers said...

When i spin out my mate overtakes me....... this is no good!


Make sure you are up-wind of your mate when you spin out, he won't overtake you again!

Paul
Mr. No-one
Mr. No-one
WA
921 posts
WA, 921 posts
5 Dec 2007 9:28pm
I find hitting it with sandpaper helps the water stick better, and keep the sunscreen off it. If you dip it and the water runs off you get traction control problems.
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