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The new Windsurfer LT Reviewed in detail

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Created by albymongrel 3 months ago, 9 Apr 2018
Sparky
WA, 722 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 1:27PM
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So, lots of hyped up discussion on the pros but no elaboration on the cons....

KA360
NSW, 664 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 4:51PM
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Interesting production line they have got going there. Just some boards being effected . Aren't they all supposed to be the same , you know being ONE DESIGN and all.
I suspect it's not just some.

windsufering
VIC, 575 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 5:01PM
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LOL itts not one design anymore because some one put the wrong screws in the centre board casing .
Its been one big scam LOL the class is doomed
LOL

KA360
NSW, 664 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 5:18PM
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Yeh right. You know it's not the screws that are the problem.

windsufering
VIC, 575 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 5:20PM
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Please tell us

KA360
NSW, 664 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 6:04PM
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I posted this a week ago. I would have thought someone from Wally inc. would have used the forum to update and explain the issue as well as reassure that a solution is forthcoming.
My point windsuffering was that when a production run is in progress it isn't just the odd board that gets the wrong screw insert material, they all do.
The inserts for the centreboard cover and centreboard flaps need replacing as they may leak.

windsufering
VIC, 575 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 6:21PM
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Those that have purchased the Windsurfer Lt have been notified.
Are you upset they didn't inform you ?
I don't think Wally inc gives a **** what you think

Dag
QLD, 613 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 9:39PM
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Wanker!

RichardG
WA, 1435 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 9:09PM
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KA360 said..






I posted this a week ago. I would have thought someone from Wally inc. would have used the forum to update and explain the issue as well as reassure that a solution is forthcoming.
My point windsuffering was that when a production run is in progress it isn't just the odd board that gets the wrong screw insert material, they all do.
The inserts for the centreboard cover and centreboard flaps need replacing as they may leak.





I would suggest you not make inaccurate statements which are potentially actionable at law either under the Australian Consumer Law for being misleading or deceptive and/or in tort for being slander of goods and/or malicious falsehood. I would suggest that you apologise for your posts and admit you don't know what is going on since you are not in receipt of the advice received by all LT owners affected. Please remember the manufacturer and the Australian distributor have, it is well known, very deep pockets. An apology would be in order since you don't know and can't know what is going on since you have admitted before you are not buying an LT and you have already indicated your malice and dislike of the product so that your ill will is clear. You appear to have made false statements, made maliciously, that disparages the quality of goods manufactured and sold by the potential class of claimant(s) being the manufacturer and Australian distributor. It is a form of the tort of malicious falsehood. An apology and retraction may go some way to remedying this but if not proceed at your own peril.

albymongrel
NSW, 79 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 11:22PM
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KA360 said..



I posted this a week ago. I would have thought someone from Wally inc. would have used the forum to update and explain the issue as well as reassure that a solution is forthcoming.
My point windsuffering was that when a production run is in progress it isn't just the odd board that gets the wrong screw insert material, they all do.
The inserts for the centreboard cover and centreboard flaps need replacing as they may leak.


I've had my board out several dozen times over a few months and to the best of my knowledge it hasn't leaked and it was in the first batch off the production line. However, it's good to see the manufacturer being proactive and making sure all the boards are ok as obviously there is one or more affected. The vast majority are yet to hit the water so no major drama really. With the biggest production numbers of any windsurfer model this year I'm sure the class is far from doomed and if you find the time to hop on one for a ride once this issue is resolved, you may just decide it is a good allround versatile piece of kit to add to your quiver. If you don't no problem, you have the choice.

i saw your soggy grass post a week ago and had no idea what you were on about, now I know, don't be alarmed - I'm sure any boards out there will be repaired and all new ones from the factory will be better than ever with only a minor repair required that is behind the covers and out of sight.

im guessing Wally inc are busy getting things resolved and notifying their customers directly and not through forums.
im pretty sure all customers are very happy with the new board and will continue to be loyal to the brand that started it all. Windsurfer!
Al

oldguy4
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Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 10:36PM
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KA360 said..



I posted this a week ago. I would have thought someone from Wally inc. would have used the forum to update and explain the issue as well as reassure that a solution is forthcoming.
My point windsuffering was that when a production run is in progress it isn't just the odd board that gets the wrong screw insert material, they all do.
The inserts for the centreboard cover and centreboard flaps need replacing as they may leak.


1+ for the comment from Richard G.

It is one thing to set out to spoil things for people who have done you no harm but in the real world there are rules and when you break a rule it often gets legal and very expensive. Take the advice from Richard G or pay to get your own, especially if you own a house (for now at least). Good luck.

Sparky
WA, 722 posts
Friday , 12 Jul 2018 11:39PM
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oops, didn't mean to stir things up.
Anyway, while I'm here, where's the popcorn.

KA360
NSW, 664 posts
Friday , 13 Jul 2018 11:35AM
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You can't sue someone for repeating what they themselves have said. Just saying it is better to put the truth out there than people listening to rumours or outright lies by Windsufering.

The problem occurred in the factory that produces boards for many brands.
Wally inc. quality control spotted a potential issue early.
The importer notified its customers.
They have a good solution.
They will fix the issue.
They are on to it.
No big deal, customers will get their boards soon.

I would have little interest in following the Wally thread, but the abusive personal attacks instead of debunking me from Windsufering and Chris249 keep me coming back for more.

cammd
QLD, 1703 posts
Friday , 13 Jul 2018 11:56AM
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If I were a potential buyer of this product I would appreciate people posting information on a product on a public forum in order to gather information on performance, service, quality etc.

I know I have purchased product from this factory under different brand names in the past and have been disappointed in the quality and I have seen plenty of other people post about similar experiences the same over the years.

Threatening law suit's and demanding apologies etc because someone shares information that otherwise would not be available to people outside the loop is counterproductive to our community and is frankly a over reaction.

Its becoming more an more common in Australia to try to shut down any opinion that is different to the one you want to hear.

RichardG
WA, 1435 posts
Friday , 13 Jul 2018 10:40AM
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KA360 said..
The problem occurred in the factory that produces boards for many brands.
Wally inc. quality control spotted a potential issue early.
The importer notified its customers.
They have a good solution.
They will fix the issue.
They are on to it.
No big deal, customers will get their boards soon.




Noted and Thanks. The above is a more truthful, accurate and balanced viewpoint of what is happening.

What is the source of your information ?

Did you purchase a Windsurfer LT ?

What is your interest in this matter ?

windsufering
VIC, 575 posts
Friday , 13 Jul 2018 3:59PM
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KA360 said..
You can't sue someone for repeating what they themselves have said. Just saying it is better to put the truth out there than people listening to rumours or outright lies by Windsufering.

The problem occurred in the factory that produces boards for many brands.
Wally inc. quality control spotted a potential issue early.
The importer notified its customers.
They have a good solution.
They will fix the issue.
They are on to it.
No big deal, customers will get their boards soon.

I would have little interest in following the Wally thread, but the abusive personal attacks instead of debunking me from Windsufering and Chris249 keep me coming back for more.



I just thought it was your little man syndrome

Chris 249
ACT, 1475 posts
Friday , 13 Jul 2018 4:08PM
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KA360 said..
You can't sue someone for repeating what they themselves have said. Just saying it is better to put the truth out there than people listening to rumours or outright lies by Windsufering.

The problem occurred in the factory that produces boards for many brands.
Wally inc. quality control spotted a potential issue early.
The importer notified its customers.
They have a good solution.
They will fix the issue.
They are on to it.
No big deal, customers will get their boards soon.

I would have little interest in following the Wally thread, but the abusive personal attacks instead of debunking me from Windsufering and Chris249 keep me coming back for more.



I have only ever responded to your abuse, insults and rants directed toward the One Design. I have in fact specifically stayed away from this thread for some time because of your bizarre but obvious hate for the One Designs.

Mainstays of the Windsurfer class did things like arrange a fundraising that helped your own son, if I recall correctly, and your response is to slur them. In the past I did stuff like lend you my favourite board (which you then damaged in a collision and then lied about) so the fact that you have decided to launch a campaign against a board and concept many people like (including people who have won many championships, unlike you) and a personal one against me is sad.

AUS 814
NSW, 183 posts
Friday , 13 Jul 2018 5:53PM
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Chris 249 said..

KA360 said..
You can't sue someone for repeating what they themselves have said. Just saying it is better to put the truth out there than people listening to rumours or outright lies by Windsufering.

The problem occurred in the factory that produces boards for many brands.
Wally inc. quality control spotted a potential issue early.
The importer notified its customers.
They have a good solution.
They will fix the issue.
They are on to it.
No big deal, customers will get their boards soon.

I would have little interest in following the Wally thread, but the abusive personal attacks instead of debunking me from Windsufering and Chris249 keep me coming back for more.




I have only ever responded to your abuse, insults and rants directed toward the One Design. I have in fact specifically stayed away from this thread for some time because of your bizarre but obvious hate for the One Designs.

Mainstays of the Windsurfer class did things like arrange a fundraising that helped your own son, if I recall correctly, and your response is to slur them. In the past I did stuff like lend you my favourite board (which you then damaged in a collision and then lied about) so the fact that you have decided to launch a campaign against a board and concept many people like (including people who have won many championships, unlike you) and a personal one against me is sad.


Well said Chris

kato
VIC, 2230 posts
Friday , 13 Jul 2018 6:29PM
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AUS 814 said..

Chris 249 said..


KA360 said..
You can't sue someone for repeating what they themselves have said. Just saying it is better to put the truth out there than people listening to rumours or outright lies by Windsufering.

The problem occurred in the factory that produces boards for many brands.
Wally inc. quality control spotted a potential issue early.
The importer notified its customers.
They have a good solution.
They will fix the issue.
They are on to it.
No big deal, customers will get their boards soon.

I would have little interest in following the Wally thread, but the abusive personal attacks instead of debunking me from Windsufering and Chris249 keep me coming back for more.





I have only ever responded to your abuse, insults and rants directed toward the One Design. I have in fact specifically stayed away from this thread for some time because of your bizarre but obvious hate for the One Designs.

Mainstays of the Windsurfer class did things like arrange a fundraising that helped your own son, if I recall correctly, and your response is to slur them. In the past I did stuff like lend you my favourite board (which you then damaged in a collision and then lied about) so the fact that you have decided to launch a campaign against a board and concept many people like (including people who have won many championships, unlike you) and a personal one against me is sad.



Well said Chris


+1

windsufering
VIC, 575 posts
Friday , 13 Jul 2018 9:03PM
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This bloke hates the windsurfer LT

oldguy4
2 posts
Friday , 13 Jul 2018 7:36PM
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AUS 814 said..


Chris 249 said..



KA360 said..
You can't sue someone for repeating what they themselves have said. Just saying it is better to put the truth out there than people listening to rumours or outright lies by Windsufering.

The problem occurred in the factory that produces boards for many brands.
Wally inc. quality control spotted a potential issue early.
The importer notified its customers.
They have a good solution.
They will fix the issue.
They are on to it.
No big deal, customers will get their boards soon.

I would have little interest in following the Wally thread, but the abusive personal attacks instead of debunking me from Windsufering and Chris249 keep me coming back for more.






I have only ever responded to your abuse, insults and rants directed toward the One Design. I have in fact specifically stayed away from this thread for some time because of your bizarre but obvious hate for the One Designs.

Mainstays of the Windsurfer class did things like arrange a fundraising that helped your own son, if I recall correctly, and your response is to slur them. In the past I did stuff like lend you my favourite board (which you then damaged in a collision and then lied about) so the fact that you have decided to launch a campaign against a board and concept many people like (including people who have won many championships, unlike you) and a personal one against me is sad.




Well said Chris



+1


+2

Chris 249
ACT, 1475 posts
Friday , 13 Jul 2018 9:43PM
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Interesting.... " "Naish will also have the board produced with its logo, the first boards will be delivered with our logo at the end of August."

That's from Surf Magazine, where the pic came from. Germany's Surf was arguably the most influential magazine in the world years ago, and some insiders say it drove the "funboard revolution" so to see it promoting the LT is significant.

The same article says that ten sailors from the Netherlands will be at the worlds regatta. That's significant since three years ago I don't think there were any Dutch one design sailors. So to is the presence of Christophe Sieber (Olympic medallist and just one of several ex-Olympians who can be seen on the One Design) and Cesare Cantagelli, the guy who invented the forward loop.

Obviously not everyone will want an LT, but it seems to be hitting the spot.


Ps - thanks for the support, guys.

albymongrel
NSW, 79 posts
Saturday , 14 Jul 2018 9:57AM
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Some good contributions there Chris. Fair, balanced and sensible. The vast majority of Wally sailors have tried other disciplines, even actively remain involved in other aspects of the sport and have chosen to either come back to Wallys or longboard racing for a number of reasons. For some reason you never see a Wally sailor bagging other disciplines, it's a shame we don't all respect each other.
Windsurfing changed my life and keeps me sane (most of the time anyway)
Cheers, Al

cammd
QLD, 1703 posts
Saturday , 14 Jul 2018 11:05AM
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For some reason you never see a Wally sailor bagging other disciplines



Windsufering has been sniping away at RSX and Techno class for years and its been largley ignored.

I find it quite hypocritical that he is all offended and self righteous when a bit of stick has come back onto his beloved wally class.

That said I fully agree with you and Chris et al, we should all respect each others choices and work together to build the sport.

I sincerley hope that we see lots of these new wallies on the race course next season, my fear is that they will sit in sheds. They have been invited to come and sail at RQYS in Qld and have their own division and well as yard stick rating against the other boards if we get enough of them.

Imax1
VIC, 1232 posts
Saturday , 14 Jul 2018 11:44AM
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These new wallys have got to be a great thing. Way better than a sup without a mast connection and they are everywhere and boring. Whats wrong with floating around in the sun , gotta be better than sitting on the beach or digging stump holes. I love all kinds of windsurfing.

seanhogan
2829 posts
Saturday , 14 Jul 2018 9:50AM
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haven't read the whole thread so maybe already mentionned,but on top of Naish and Excocet; Starboard is releasing them too

RichardG
WA, 1435 posts
Saturday , 14 Jul 2018 5:17PM
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We have 15 coming to Perth apparently. I reckon the branded ones, next year will cost more: so get your orders in now by contacting Greg Johns (Ph. (02)9982 6444) to find out if you can get in the initial discounted order(s), if you still can.

Chris 249
ACT, 1475 posts
Saturday , 14 Jul 2018 8:59PM
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Cammd, you're right that some people here have criticised RSX and Technos, but most people from the Windsurfer One Design class has supported them or at least defended them.

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Windsufering has been sniping away at RSX and Techno class for years and its been largley ignored.

I find it quite hypocritical that he is all offended and self righteous when a bit of stick has come back onto his beloved wally class.




That's a fair call. It can also be said that the RSX class started out by attacking other classes, particularly the IMCO, but that doesn't justify windsufering's abuse of the RSX class.

windsufering
VIC, 575 posts
Saturday , 14 Jul 2018 11:30PM
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Find one post where I slag the rsx class , if not go **** yourselfs

albymongrel
NSW, 79 posts
Saturday , 15 Jul 2018 12:00AM
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I think we all need to smoke the peace pipe at the Nationals. Who's gonna bring the Ganga? Be cool and happy sailing. Life's too short to make enemies or stress about every little detail. We all make huge mistakes from time to time, so let's be a little more considerate of our brothers eh? Free counselling sessions available anytime...



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