20-25knots today.

off ya go!

or should I say up up and away!

You see a lot of people post on the GPSTC website that a using big sails and boards with small fins. I can only assume they must be really powered up and/or setup for off the wind sailing. Otherwise I cannot see myself how it would be that much fun, if it was in marginal conditions fighting with the fin.
Personally when I'm using my bigger gear in marginal conditions I like to have the recommended fin for the size board and sail eg 112litre board, 7/7.8 sail with a 40cm ish fin and have a lot of fun just cruising around.

Nice video, looks very flat and shallow

I wouldnt call that chop haha i was talking about bigger boards with pointers not custom weed fins on small boards..

What I meant by saying off the wind, people sailing for max speed deep off the wind, not setup for best possible speeds for say accross the wind sailing in choppy conditions which you might setup for, like for going for a 1hr

20 knots was about my limit with the 8.5m on the formula board. maybe a touch more, but that was because the sail was too small. 10m would have gotten me up to 25 apparently.

more downforce on the nose.

oh and I;m talking bay swell here not flat water.

Jezstrt said..

Nice video, looks very flat and shallow

I wouldnt call that chop haha i was talking about bigger boards with pointers not custom weed fins on small boards..

the next day there was a bit of swell so opted for smaller gear 76lt and 6.2

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Gps/Primbee-20092013/

Gestalt said...
20-25knots today.

off ya go!

or should I say up up and away!

I sailed this afternoon at Wynum. 16 to 23knts on my hand held wind speed meter at about 4.15pm. This correlates pretty well with wind speed measurements at inner Beacon at the same time. So I'm pretty confident the wind was around 18kts with gusts over 20kts. I sailed my futura 111 with a 6m sail. My gear was slightly bigger than every one else out. The others were on 5.5m and similar sized or smaller boards.

I am 87kg. I was we'll powered up. I would not have wanted to carry a bigger sail. A 9.8m would have been out of the question.

Gestalt said..

20-25knots today.

off ya go!

or should I say up up and away!

I was today twice on KFC with my 8.0 but didn't unpacked. Not enough for my 8.0 but could be right for 9.8 which I left at home expecting this 25


unless all green I could not get planing that is why I need 9.8

boardboy said..

hmmm something wrong with your technique macro.. something just aint right with whats happening in your sailing.

Absolutely right. I actually never said anything contrary. I have the poorest light wind technique on the planet
But there is nothing I can do about that and I could only compensate by having bigger sail (so I need 1 -2 m2 more then you to have the same effect in light winds )

vando said..

I find al ot of people dont pump not saying this is the case here but you need another 5 knots if you just sit there waiting for the wind to get you on the plane

That's me I don't know how to pump or don't have that power
I only manage to pump a bit if need to do a gybe then getting a bit more speed helps a lot.

My problem with pumping was usually that if I managed after pumping had a bit of planning, instantly go back down when only stopped.
So eventually finished only more tired with same result. No planing. So I pump only before gybing if need to because that is only for very short period.

Macroscien said..

vando said..

I find al ot of people dont pump not saying this is the case here but you need another 5 knots if you just sit there waiting for the wind to get you on the plane

That's me I don't know how to pump or don't have that power
I only manage to pump a bit if need to do a gybe then getting a bit more speed helps a lot.

Thats ok Gestalt doesn't pump either

Gestalt said..

god I love the wide revolution.

What could better choice for low wind :
big slalom JP
or
Ultra Light Wind JP
( all around our Broad water) ?
for that 9.8m

Macroscien said...

Gestalt said..

20-25knots today.

off ya go!

or should I say up up and away!

I was today twice on KFC with my 8.0 but didn't unpacked. Not enough for my 8.0 but could be right for 9.8 which I left at home expecting this 25


unless all green I could not get planing that is why I need 9.8

The wind was 5kts stronger on Morton Bay

Tested today at marginal wind 9.8m2 + 118L/68 +42cm
First time I could at last plane in such low breeze.
Fin 42 cm a bit to small ( the biggest I have) and I need to be very careful with back foot pressure to avoid spins, but workable.

Milsy said..

John340 said..



I have a similar question.



Has anyone successfully used a 8.5m slalom race with a 111 litre Futura in sub 15kt wind? Does it help planning in these lighter winds over a 7.5m sail or does the extra weigh counteract the larger surface area of the sail?



I use a 42cm black projects slalom fin. At this stage I don't have the option of a bigger board.

i think u can pretty much so do anything, i've had an 8.7 on a 92l jp slalom, its ok, but its really to no advantage, but a futura 111, about 68wide, it will take an 8.5 in lighter winds, sure why not, a 42cm fin might be a bit small, good luck johnny boy

I tried the 8.5m with the 110 Futura on Sunday. It definitely got up and planned in lighter wind than using the 7.5m. However it was not very comfortable, the sail is heavier, harder to gybe and the fin did not feel very secure.

I'm better off sailing my longboard in sub 12Kt conditions.