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sausage
sausage
QLD
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QLD, 4874 posts
12 May 2010 10:51am
From the tassie forum www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=65770 someone has asked what people use for their long range forecast (apart from Seabreeze of course). I have copy and pasted my response FYI.

Gestalt used this site forecasts.bsch.au.com/gfs_plot.html# prior to Burrum this year . You can set it to whatever parameters you want e.g. 1knot gradients, latitude , longitude etc. Found it to be really accurate (well as accurate as forecasting goes anyway) and gives you 7 days forecast at minimum +/-3 hour or max +/-24 hour intervals.

Hit the "winds + Streams" in the quicklinks just below the "GFS Forecast run" bar, then in "Variables" row put your preferred wind gradient in far right box (it's default is in 5 knot gradients but I set this to two as you get a much more colourful picture ). Then in the "Map Projection" set to Custom and input lat/lon co-ords in for your region, then hit "request plot".

This is the BoMs one I occasionally use as well although clarity/flexibility not as good as above. www.bom.gov.au/marine/wind.shtml
hardie
hardie
WA
4133 posts
WA, 4133 posts
12 May 2010 10:20am
Having studied the wind forecasts intensely over the last 10 yrs, imo anything beyond 48hrs is unreliable. In some stable weather patterns/systems at certain times of the year beyond 48 hrs can be a reasanble predictor but mostly not.
sailquik
sailquik
VIC
6171 posts
VIC, 6171 posts
12 May 2010 1:21pm
hardie said...

Having studied the wind forecasts intensely over the last 10 yrs, imo anything beyond 48hrs is unreliable. In some stable weather patterns/systems at certain times of the year beyond 48 hrs can be a reasonable predictor but mostly not.


Yep!
sausage
sausage
QLD
4874 posts
QLD, 4874 posts
12 May 2010 1:22pm
hardie said...

Having studied the wind forecasts intensely over the last 10 yrs, imo anything beyond 48hrs is unreliable. In some stable weather patterns/systems at certain times of the year beyond 48 hrs can be a reasanble predictor but mostly not.


Too true Hardie, but if we lose all hope then we'll have nothing to live for
elmo
elmo
WA
8894 posts
WA, 8894 posts
12 May 2010 11:39am
Don't load your car based on what the forecast say's, chuck whatever you can shoehorn in there, no matter how outlandish it seems at home, that way when you lob up to the beach you will have your bases covered.

Hardz
If when you are down the beach and the forecast is 20-30 but only blowing 15-20, don't rig a 5 and wait for the wind, this leads only to madness and frustration.

20-30 forecasts
These are only forecast when BOM haven't a clue as to what the weather will be like
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
12 May 2010 4:10pm
elmo said...

Don't load your car based on what the forecast say's, chuck whatever you can shoehorn in there, no matter how outlandish it seems at home, that way when you lob up to the beach you will have your bases covered.

Hardz
If when you are down the beach and the forecast is 20-30 but only blowing 15-20, don't rig a 5 and wait for the wind, this leads only to madness and frustration.

20-30 forecasts
These are only forecast when BOM haven't a clue as to what the weather will be like


I totally agree with this.
IN some areas, I feel you can extend the foreacst period beyond 48 hrs based on local knowledge and patterns. At Elliott Hds, mare tails in the sky predicted a strong sou-easter in 3-4 days, and the weather patterns are so strong there, a forecast a week out would usually be correct.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8349 posts
NSW, 8349 posts
13 May 2010 4:54pm
elmo said...

Don't load your car based on what the forecast say's, chuck whatever you can shoehorn in there, no matter how outlandish it seems at home, that way when you lob up to the beach you will have your bases covered.

Hardz
If when you are down the beach and the forecast is 20-30 but only blowing 15-20, don't rig a 5 and wait for the wind, this leads only to madness and frustration.

20-30 forecasts
These are only forecast when BOM haven't a clue as to what the weather will be like

I went down yesterday nervous about going out on a shortboard for the first time in ages in the 20-30kts they predicted..blowing gusty 12kt sw so rigged the 6.6m on the big board & hoped when it picked up it would come in slowly..yeah..[}:)] it died to 5 kts with occ 8kt gust..Lucky I took the big board down..I was going to leave it at home..body not happy today after 1.30 of subplaning with big heavy sail ( for me). Still mind is.. nice to get out & I did one nice 'flare 'gybe.

sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8349 posts
NSW, 8349 posts
13 May 2010 5:11pm
sausage said...

From the tassie forum www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=65770 someone has asked what people use for their long range forecast (apart from Seabreeze of course). I have copy and pasted my response FYI.

Gestalt used this site http://forecasts.bsch.au.com/gfs_plot.html# prior to Burrum this year . You can set it to whatever parameters you want e.g. 1knot gradients, latitude , longitude etc. Found it to be really accurate (well as accurate as forecasting goes anyway) and gives you 7 days forecast at minimum +/-3 hour or max +/-24 hour intervals.

Hit the "winds + Streams" in the quicklinks just below the "GFS Forecast run" bar, then in "Variables" row put your preferred wind gradient in far right box (it's default is in 5 knot gradients but I set this to two as you get a much more colourful picture ). Then in the "Map Projection" set to Custom and input lat/lon co-ords in for your region, then hit "request plot".

This is the BoMs one I occasionally use as well although clarity/flexibility not as good as above. www.bom.gov.au/jsp/marine/wind/index.jsp


Well I requested a plot for Valentine Lake Macquarie but I didnt understand the result..
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
13 May 2010 5:31pm
hardie said...

Having studied the wind forecasts intensely over the last 10 yrs, imo anything beyond 48hrs is unreliable. In some stable weather patterns/systems at certain times of the year beyond 48 hrs can be a reasanble predictor but mostly not.


Therefore the forecast for 5 days in advance will be the opposite, i.e. good/bad
sausage
sausage
QLD
4874 posts
QLD, 4874 posts
13 May 2010 5:37pm
sboardcrazy said...

Well I requested a plot for Valentine Lake Macquarie but I didnt understand the result..


SBC,
Below is custom plot between Lat 30S and 33.5S (Mid NSW) for tomorrow at noon. The coloured gradients are at 3 knot intervals, and the direction is SW (white lines with arrow directions). So therefore it looks like the coast will have between 6 - 12 knots SW. (I think Lake Mac is around Latitude 33S)

ozpricey
ozpricey
WA
333 posts
WA, 333 posts
13 May 2010 11:25pm
Kind of threadjacking here BUT

I know that when there's some Cumulous or Stratocumulous clouds around usually there's a lull in wind and when its clear skies its usually consistent wind. Why is this so? I can't find any info on google
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8349 posts
NSW, 8349 posts
14 May 2010 9:21am
sausage said...

sboardcrazy said...

Well I requested a plot for Valentine Lake Macquarie but I didnt understand the result..


SBC,
Below is custom plot between Lat 30S and 33.5S (Mid NSW) for tomorrow at noon. The coloured gradients are at 3 knot intervals, and the direction is SW (white lines with arrow directions). So therefore it looks like the coast will have between 6 - 12 knots SW. (I think Lake Mac is around Latitude 33S)



I didnt get that coming up.. Well I was going to try & get a sail today with the 15-20kt Sw they predicted but I don't think I'll bother with the 2hr drive after seeing that.I think it will be more accurate than the other forecast.
Rider5
Rider5
WA
567 posts
WA, 567 posts
15 May 2010 2:12pm
For long range, for quite a while now I have been having success with a combo of windfinder and windguru
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