Who uses a wind anemometer/meter?

> 10 years ago
Reply
Register to post, see what you've read, and subscribe to topics.
hardie
hardie
WA
4133 posts
WA, 4133 posts
1 Sep 2006 5:45pm
I bought a Kestral 3000 from DickSmiths about $150, very sophisticated, and very accurate, has many other features including temp etc, with a variety of settings and readings.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
1 Sep 2006 8:44pm
MikeyS - i still go for a sail if i don't have it. but i tend to do a lot more dredging when i don't use it, i've been around the water now for almost 18 years. and i gotta say, i can't pick wind strength.

what i have noticed is
white caps can start to form at 9 knots.
what looks like 15 knots is 10 knots.
what looks like 20 knots is 15 knots
what looks like 25 knots is 18 knots
anything above 25 knots and i wouldn't have a clue.

the only thing i can say for sure is that at 35knots the spray blows horizontal on the water
and at 45knots plus the car will start to rock when you park it.

i was down at wello a few weeks ago, held the meter up to see the wind. noticed everyone was going out of their way to walk around me. then some guy eventually says,
"sorry mate didn't mean to get in your photo"....



go on guys, become a nerd, spend your time tuning not re-rigging.



AUS154 Chris
AUS154 Chris
QLD
217 posts
QLD, 217 posts
3 Sep 2006 9:01am
The goddamn windmeter doesn't tell you which sail, board, or fin to use, nor can you enter your weight into it. Get a feel for it.
crem
crem
WA
18 posts
WA, 18 posts
3 Sep 2006 8:17am
Most crew are tuned into their local spot (although I did get done the other day on an onshore that looked windier than what it was) but where I find a windmeter essential is on a road trip. It is damn hard to get it right at a spot you have never sailed before or sailed very infrequently.

As to kiters calling it stronger than what it is on the deck - the wind 30 metres up is around 20-30% stronger. I spend most of my time sailboarding but on the rare NE winds kiting here is definately the go. There will be 5 knots on the windmeter but 15 to 20 knots in the air. You can hear the water dripping off you board when you jump and talk to crew in a normal voice when they are 50 metres away. Weird **.

However on the odd occassion, when you get a light cold front come through or early in a seabreeze you can be planing on a sailboard but see kites falling out of the sky as the colder wind is closer to the water.
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
3 Sep 2006 10:49am
Justin you're observations are a little out. Whitecaps start to form at 6 knots but are very spaced. They become apparent at 8 knots (there is enough of em in you're field of view to say there is whitecaps). One of the magazines did an article on this years ago but I dont seem to have it anymore. Also there is something about looking at whitecaps downwind but I cant remember it, I look upwind and downwind in my considerations- alot of the time upwind is breaking on a bank or chopping up from return wash etc.
AUS154 Chris
AUS154 Chris
QLD
217 posts
QLD, 217 posts
4 Sep 2006 5:51am
And it depends on wind against tide or wind with tide.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
4 Sep 2006 9:37am
i guess the only way to settle this debate would be to get a anemometer
king of the point
king of the point
WA
1836 posts
WA, 1836 posts
4 Sep 2006 8:15am
Ive got one and its the temp and wind chill factor buttom ,helps me work out what wet suit im going to use

BIT OF FUN got my highest wind speeds out my window of the car,

Haircut 4000
Haircut 4000
QLD
340 posts
QLD, 340 posts
4 Sep 2006 10:41pm
quote:
Originally posted by Gestalt

i got my meter on ebay for $36. not including postage.

they are now $39.. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Wind-Gauge-Wind-Speed-Meter-Anemometer_W0QQitemZ200022280046QQihZ010QQcategoryZ2920QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

never had any probs with it in 6 months. have checed it against 2 other meters of different brands they they were all within 0.1 knot



problem now is when i forget to take it. it is like forgetting my harness.



Heya. I used to have two of these. The first used to totally flatten the battery in about two weeks just sitting un used, it was replaced under warranty for another with exactly the same fault. Apart from that, it was awesome. The distributor gave money back which was good. Hopefully yours is a faultless one.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
4 Sep 2006 10:45pm
hope you haven't jinxed me haircut. but i haven't ever had any issues.
Haircut 4000
Haircut 4000
QLD
340 posts
QLD, 340 posts
4 Sep 2006 11:13pm
hope not i was thinking of buying another. Toots has had exactly the same one for a couple of years now with no probs.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
4 Sep 2006 11:24pm
you know you are not suppoesed to actually take them with you when you go sailing don't you....
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
4 Sep 2006 11:34pm
hi crashlanding,

now that you've every opinion under the sun and we've almost destroyed your original post. (which was accidental).

what do you think?
Crash Landing
Crash Landing
NSW
1173 posts
NSW, 1173 posts
5 Sep 2006 8:31am
Gestalt - to be honest I was expecting a couple of posts - one person saying yes one saying no. I also assumed it would be mainly the racers who used them. So I guess I'm a little suprised.

I went to a few beaches last weekend and had no idea how windy it was. There was no-one out so i just sat there and watched the white caps.

Basically I will buy one ASAP as I feel like I'm missing out on some sails...

Thanks for the advice/answers/posts!
MikeyS
MikeyS
VIC
1509 posts
VIC, 1509 posts
5 Sep 2006 10:22am
Check out this windmeter, guys. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale .This is what I'm talking about and have been using for the past 20 years. Interestingly, Gestalt, my perfect kit has one sail for each Force, ie, Force 5- 5.4, Force 6- 4.7, Force 7- 4.2, Force 8- 3.7, Force 9- stay at home and mow the lawn.
I can see the bay from my office window. Of course, I never just gaze out the window thinking that I'd love to be out sailing- (work is always soooo riveting), but over the years I can pick the windstrength to within 1 knot of the Bureau reading at Fawkner Beacon, just by looking at the seastate, especially the frequency of the whitecaps. The beacon is a couple of k's offshore, so it gets clean, uninterrupted wind, so I think it's pretty accurate.
Other observations for windstrength, for what it's worth:
1. If it's Force 5 or greater, you don't hear birds in the trees. Generally, the sound of the wind in the leaves will be greater than birdsong.
2. Ripples on the water are rounded in force 4, so the water usually still has a smooth and reflective appearance, but at force 5, they form sharper peaks, making the surface of the water less reflective. Looking out to sea, this makes the water, especially where there are gusts, to look darker. But the trick with this is that sometimes cloud, or other things can also make the water loook darker, so what you think is a gust really isn't.
3. Over a certain windstrength, whitecaps sometimes aren't as pronounced, as if the wind is knocking the tops off them before they can break. So if you feel that the wind feels strong, but you can't see as many whitecaps as you'd expect, then it may actually be stronger than it looks.
4. Look for the frequency of whitecaps, not just their presence. If they are just appearing on a slowish cycle- flash....flash...flash, so your eyes can catch each one as it appears, then it's probably Force 4 ( and not exciting enough for MikeyS to rig up). But if your field of view is filled with whitecaps appearing quickly- flash.flash.flash, to the point where your eyes can't dart from each whitecap as it appears to the next, then it's probably force 5 or more.
5. Don't confuse ripples and waves generated by currents with ripples form wind. Local knowledge required here. Looking at the water at Inverloch, where there is a big tidal movement and where I hadn't sailed before, I overestimated windstrength. Need to rely on the wind in face, branch movement observations there.
Lots more I could add, but the instruction book would be really long. And every time I rig up wrong, that info goes back into the neural database for next time, so the system is always improving.
And despite all of this, yeah, an anemometer would be good to add to the toybox.

Cheers
Please Register, or first...
Topics Subscribe Reply