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Winter projects.... what's yours?

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Created by Mark _australia 31 days ago, 24 May 2019
pepe47
WA, 1250 posts
31 May 2019 2:55PM
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Trying to shoehorn two fins on the one blank. No room to spare

Imax1
VIC, 1943 posts
31 May 2019 8:43PM
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Pepe , your back
Those fins look very shallow and angry .
They look 15 cm deep .
Are you sailing on dry land , a wet football field possibly ?

pepe47
WA, 1250 posts
31 May 2019 7:21PM
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Almost, fangy's has that bowling green look occasionally. 2x21.5's.

Imax1
VIC, 1943 posts
31 May 2019 9:26PM
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I'm confused
2 x Tuttle box on one board ?

decrepit
WA, 9180 posts
31 May 2019 7:36PM
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Imax1 said..
I'm confused
2 x Tuttle box on one board ?


Hardly, Pepe's either making a spare, or one for somebody else. 2 fins in the CNC machine doesn't = two fins in a board.

Although people have tossed up the idea of twin fins to help with the lack of water at times.

Imax1
VIC, 1943 posts
31 May 2019 9:42PM
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segler
97 posts
31 May 2019 10:36PM
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It's our turn for summer up here in the norther hemisphere.

Re: boats. I replaced an old fishing boat with a somewhat newer one for fishing on the Columbia. The main requirement was that it had to fit in my garage. So, when it is not blowing, I go out and chase salmon and walleye. (Yes, we do get no-wind days on the Columbia during the summer.)

Gestalt
QLD, 12081 posts
3 Jun 2019 8:19AM
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looks like next winters project has been acquired.

found an 8' steve o'donnell mal shaped in the early 80's at hot buttered. single concave into v.

thought it would be a good roughed up board for byron but it needs a lot of work so wont be getting wet for a while.

Dar
166 posts
7 Jun 2019 7:46PM
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Saw someone on the forums a while back putting printed graphics on their boards.... what material do you guys use?

Mark _australia
WA, 19208 posts
8 Jun 2019 6:00PM
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Been through it all Dar so my findings:

You can print on rice paper yourself but its a pain in the arse.

Firstly looking for printable rice paper will mostly get you what cake makers use and its a synthetic icing crap and nothing like actual rice paper that surf guys use (ie goes clear with resin). Cake place ladies will argue to til their blue in the face that its rice paper and it bloody well is not. Its not rice, its not cellulose.

So you can buy the real rice paper but only in massive rolls, not A4 pieces.

So you can try rice paper from the asian supermarket but it is (1) textured so it looks like it used to be 200yrs ago when they made it on woven straw mates of some crap. (2) much thicker.

It works but you have to flatten it for ages under a bit of glass and weights, the edges want to tear so you have to tape it well to a backing sheet to run it through the printer, and after all that you discover it doe not quittttte go clear with resin.

So 2 choices:

(1) Get a surf sticker manufacturer to print your logo on rice paper, its about $100 for as many as you can fit on a A3 sheet.

(2) Order stickers on eBay. I can get a 100mm long sticker for $4. Ask them to not peel the surround off and apply transfer tape (they will be happy) and then you do that when u get it - so instead of a sticker you make a stencil by discarding the letters, and spray it on.

I've chosen the latter. Painted logo = colour choice and durable.

eg:




Fark rice paper unless you make a surfboard every few days.

Gestalt
QLD, 12081 posts
8 Jun 2019 9:17PM
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i've laser cut stickyback a3 sheets from cad and used that as a template to spray paint.

Dar
166 posts
9 Jun 2019 7:21PM
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So what are the factories using to do their amazing graphics?

Yeah, I also get stickers and use them as masks but hell its a lot of work to spray a few designs.

RobRock printed a mona lisa on thin paper and stick that on the bottom of his board

&t=13s

Mark _australia
WA, 19208 posts
10 Jun 2019 6:44PM
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Companies use a plastic fantastic crap that makes repairs very very hard as it melts, peels, wont sand etc etc. I've spent days chasing an edge on Cobra graphics just to get paint to blend. Its frustrating.

There are plenty of places now that do full deck surf decals like that and its not too badly priced, $200 for a full deck I think.

Bring back the 1980's bikini girl pics on the bottom!


Gestalt
QLD, 12081 posts
10 Jun 2019 9:59PM
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everyone is just chasing the cheapest method that provides the best outcome.

adding 200 in graphics is a lot of cost. thats adding 30% of the cost of the board.

most of the print people ive spoken to are geared up for large orders and not really interested in one off.

im looking into using graffiti paint with different nozzles.

on a sidrnote. i scored recently. bought 50m of 6oz volan glass, 25m of 4oz glass and a 50" wide roll of carbon fibre cloth for very little money.

Mark _australia
WA, 19208 posts
10 Jun 2019 8:30PM
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^^^ find me 30"wide 4oz s-glass in Oz and I'll be happy.

Grrr.

ZeeGerman
109 posts
10 Jun 2019 11:29PM
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Printed thin glass layer :
www.freaksoffashion.com
Based in Germany, so probably not of use to most of you but there must be something like it in Oz.

Gestalt
QLD, 12081 posts
11 Jun 2019 7:33AM
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Mark _australia said..
^^^ find me 30"wide 4oz s-glass in Oz and I'll be happy.

Grrr.


i asked... lol

gorgesailor
171 posts
11 Jun 2019 6:53AM
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Mark _australia said..
Been through it all Dar so my findings:

You can print on rice paper yourself but its a pain in the arse.

Firstly looking for printable rice paper will mostly get you what cake makers use and its a synthetic icing crap and nothing like actual rice paper that surf guys use (ie goes clear with resin). Cake place ladies will argue to til their blue in the face that its rice paper and it bloody well is not. Its not rice, its not cellulose.

So you can buy the real rice paper but only in massive rolls, not A4 pieces.

So you can try rice paper from the asian supermarket but it is (1) textured so it looks like it used to be 200yrs ago when they made it on woven straw mates of some crap. (2) much thicker.

It works but you have to flatten it for ages under a bit of glass and weights, the edges want to tear so you have to tape it well to a backing sheet to run it through the printer, and after all that you discover it doe not quittttte go clear with resin.

So 2 choices:

(1) Get a surf sticker manufacturer to print your logo on rice paper, its about $100 for as many as you can fit on a A3 sheet.

(2) Order stickers on eBay. I can get a 100mm long sticker for $4. Ask them to not peel the surround off and apply transfer tape (they will be happy) and then you do that when u get it - so instead of a sticker you make a stencil by discarding the letters, and spray it on.

I've chosen the latter. Painted logo = colour choice and durable.

eg:




Fark rice paper unless you make a surfboard every few days.


Allot of the so called "Rice Paper" graphics are actually printed on super lightweight fiberglass "surfacing vale". It is a very thin non woven matte used to prevent print though or telescoping of fiber texture through gel coat etc... perhaps that would be easier to get hold of?

Richiefish
QLD, 5468 posts
11 Jun 2019 1:32PM
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Wind tinnie....


Mark _australia
WA, 19208 posts
11 Jun 2019 12:39PM
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^^^ that's awesome!

I want to see it planing - no cheating with the motor though

jh2703
NSW, 1183 posts
11 Jun 2019 5:51PM
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For graphics...Any printer can print on clear vinyl, It breaths and conforms with heat (if they use the good stuff). This is one Pete Ross did for me a few years back, I designed it in photo shop and he did the rest.






Zachery
584 posts
11 Jun 2019 5:31PM
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normster said..
i need to make racking system - thinking of aluminium uprights with round or square sections welded at right angles to slide boards on.

anyone done something similar

main reason for alloy is it will be undercover but outside


Cheapest and quickest similar method is two pine uprights (say 70mm x 38mm whatever cheapest)with spaded holes around 1" set at whatever distance apart to fit boards in, cut lengths of broomstick (board width) and glue in, slip pool noodle over, no welding, quik and cheap. U can drill holes slightly uphill or level

peterowensbabs
NSW, 138 posts
11 Jun 2019 9:27PM
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Try to find a job, six months of odd jobbing is killing me.

Dar
166 posts
12 Jun 2019 8:58PM
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jh2703 said..
For graphics...Any printer can print on clear vinyl, It breaths and conforms with heat (if they use the good stuff). This is one Pete Ross did for me a few years back, I designed it in photo shop and he did the rest.







Thanks JH.... where does the vynil go? Under glass or is it on stuck on top of the last top coat?

Plainview
WA, 142 posts
13 Jun 2019 7:34AM
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Recovering from having the metalwork pulled out my leg - 6 weeks off the water. Meanwhile, home music studio reno and upgrade...




MagicRide
137 posts
16 Jun 2019 8:09AM
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sailquik
VIC, 4645 posts
17 Jun 2019 12:10AM
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Yeah, Nah.... Its Winter! More of this:



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