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Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
21 Feb 2007 10:24pm
quote:
Originally posted by Mark _australia
Greenroom: "when I no longer was getting a wet wick" .... and nobody has mentioned that comment yet!!????????
I haven't been getting one ever since getting married


Hahaha
mr love
mr love
VIC
2424 posts
VIC, 2424 posts
22 Feb 2007 1:54am
Hey Jord , Can you confirm that the (a bit over 8 kgs ) is with or without straps . The board spec is 7.3 kgs without straps +/- 6% . If you assume the top end of the tolerance that puts a new board at a possible weight of just over 7.7 Kg's without straps . Add straps and your board is within production tolerance . If your weighing without straps you may be chasing as little as 500 grams .
I,de hate to see you going to all this effort for nothing !!!!!
regards Martin
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
22 Feb 2007 1:23am
now i don't want to burst any egos here, but the only way i know to consistently remove water from a waterlogged board is to drill a 3/8 inch hole in the nose and the same in the tail, stand board in sun with bucket under tail for 2 weeks to a month and watch that bucket fill with water day after day. always keep board upright 24/7.
Crash Landing
Crash Landing
NSW
1173 posts
NSW, 1173 posts
22 Feb 2007 10:23am
quote:
Originally posted by curac

take the bung out sit it upside down.. maybe drill a couple of hole and stick it in a hot car
works a treat



I think I read that damp/moist air is actually lighter than dry air, so you should keep it bung up.

The other thing you need to be careful of is opening the bung straight after a windsurf, then sticking your bag into a sealed board bag. The straps, wet board and deckpads can hold up to half a litre - it'll all end up in your board as it cools and sucks in the super saturated air into the vent...

sinker
sinker
WA
255 posts
WA, 255 posts
22 Feb 2007 9:25am
Hi Jord,

Ha!! I am totally impressed with your board spinner, if you 've got good holes which go into the inner core drilled into both ends I don't see why it shouldn't work.

I don't think the venturi effect is going to help in this case, but a bit more speed might help.

I imagine it will take some time for the water to creep its way to the ends, especially if it got in through the air vent, the rotation isn't applying much pressure to water near the centre of rotation.

If you do get some more speed happening, mind you don't smash the c##p out of your board!!

Keep us posted


Oh , and if you figure out a good method let me know. I've got 2 old boards full of water!!
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
22 Feb 2007 10:35am
quote:
Originally posted by snides8

cant keep away from this topic...
never,never,never blow or try to force air into the board.
this is the easiest way to cause the styrene core to fracture and create the dreaded delam!!!!!



Oops!

Never ever trust Nebbian's comments...
Harrow
Harrow
NSW
4521 posts
NSW, 4521 posts
22 Feb 2007 2:11pm
quote:
Originally posted by decrepit

quote:
Originally posted by Harrow

My JP FSW 84 weighs 6.3kg.



Is that with or without footstraps etc????

That's board only, no footstraps.

Here are all my board weights, no straps: (followed by manufacturers specification)

2006 JP FSW 78 - 6.1kg (5.8kg)
2003 JP FSW 84 - 6.3kg (6.3kg)
2006 JP FSW 93 - 6.9kg (6.5kg)
2005 Tabou X-Rocket 105 - 6.9kg (7.5kg)

I bought all the JP's second hand and was pleasantly surprised that the 84 was right on spec, despite a couple of decent nose rail repairs and obvious dirty salt water stains in the foam in the bung hole.

I am trying to cycle the 78 and 93 between leaving in a warm car, and then placing in a cool/dry air conditioned room to see if I can bring them down at all. But who's to say this was not their original weight anyway?

Interesting thing is how underweight the Tabou is !!!
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
22 Feb 2007 3:48pm
quote:
Originally posted by Crash Landing

quote:
Originally posted by curac

take the bung out sit it upside down.. maybe drill a couple of hole and stick it in a hot car
works a treat



I think I read that damp/moist air is actually lighter than dry air, so you should keep it bung up.

The other thing you need to be careful of is opening the bung straight after a windsurf, then sticking your bag into a sealed board bag. The straps, wet board and deckpads can hold up to half a litre - it'll all end up in your board as it cools and sucks in the super saturated air into the vent...





Yeah board bags should be well ventilated, but they're not.
astevo
astevo
21 posts
21 posts
22 Feb 2007 6:02pm
my first effort would be to put the board elevated in the yard on tressles , then put a back tarp or plastic sheet like a tent over the top. hot and dry are the only things which really work on drying composites ive found
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
22 Feb 2007 6:04pm
i havent got anything on my board any more not even the foam pads to answer mr loves question i just took it off the spinner and the wight has shifted to teh end and it is about 200 grams lighter but that is a very very aproximate reading, i should get an electric scale onto it as wel; but so far so goood
snides8
snides8
WA
1731 posts
WA, 1731 posts
22 Feb 2007 6:51pm
hey Nebbian,
no sweat matethe beauty of this forum is the coming together and sharing of information from every one..
we all learn from mistakes and guess what.. i made the mistake of blowing too much air in to a board in an attempt to blow out the water and ta da
delam in a major wayi am sure jordo can find some great hints from all the posts to help him in getting his board back to weight.

easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
22 Feb 2007 10:03pm
open board surgery solved my problem. when a sailing buddy noticed a fine fracture line on the rail about a foot back from the nose of my board, subsequent pressing revealed a large soft area. i just cut away all the outer layers in an area about 30cm x 10cm, so the foam was exposed. as i was going away for 3 weeks, i left the board in my van with the windows slightly down, and when i came back the previously soggy foam was dry as. then just patch up with epoxy and Q cell, and bob's your father's brother.
Harrow
Harrow
NSW
4521 posts
NSW, 4521 posts
23 Feb 2007 10:01am
A good way is to drill a hole at the each end of the board, then attach an aquarium air pump to suck at the hole nearest the water. If you leave this set up in an air-conditioned room you will be drawing dry air through the whole core of the board. This is essentially what the board lady does.
Cruiser1755
Cruiser1755
QLD
235 posts
QLD, 235 posts
23 Feb 2007 8:04pm
I think Simon at brisbane boardcrazy used a spinner for wet boards. He should have info on optimum revs, holes, vertical or horizontal etc

Kite pumps fit into the vent with plug removed and most can be reversed to pump air out
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
24 Feb 2007 12:45am
Oh yeah, I was forgetting. Simon (the Euro Simon) had a seriously bad delam problem. He used to suck the air out of his board with a kite pump to hold it together every time before sailing... laugh...
holgs
holgs
WA
303 posts
WA, 303 posts
24 Feb 2007 1:00pm
I've had cracks in the midle of my board at times from hitting reef but never seem to get much water in from these (unlike cracks around the mast track or finbox which seem to suck heaps of water). I'm assuming the closed cell foam in the sandwich layer (such as Dininycell or Airex) protects the EPS core from sucking water. Is this correct ?

I'm guessing that cracks around the mast track & finbox are worse because the water can track down the box past the sandwich to the EPS core ? Or maybe it's just that it may take a few sessions for me to notice a crack around the finbox whereas hitting the reef is obvious

How bad would it be then to keep on sailing on a good day with such a crack in the middle of the board ?
Ta
holgs
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
24 Feb 2007 1:20pm
well i have done a new modification now and it is spinning faster and faser, for all of you who have read my other post (new way of getting water out of board, have a look back in half anhour And watch my new video, thanks for evry ones input
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