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mineral1

4564 posts

mineral1

WA, 4564 posts

10 Jun 2007 11:36am

May have been answered before, but how are each fitting GPS on person/rig so it doesn't get hidden from satellite view. Do most do what I have done and strap onto upper arm? It tends to slip around under arm, so if you do, what are you using to keep it in place?

mkseven

QLD

2315 posts

mkseven

QLD, 2315 posts

10 Jun 2007 1:41pm

I use upper arm with the walkie talkie aquapac. Never had it slip around under. I have had gps ripped from upper arm once, so forearm equals gps goooone.

nebbian

6277 posts

nebbian

WA, 6277 posts

10 Jun 2007 11:50am

Homemade custom GPS holder, very comfortable, doesn't slip around arm. Only complaint is that with the mesh it's hard to read the numbers, so for my next version I'll use clear plastic instead of mesh.

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=4744

sailquik

VIC

6171 posts

sailquik

VIC, 6171 posts

10 Jun 2007 2:11pm

Most sailors that I have seen wear it on the upper arm or wrist. I wear one on the right wrist where I can take a quick peek at it on the run and another on my left bicep for backup. Both usually have no problems with sky view but it is important to have them firm enough so that they don't rotate around the arm and hang under it. That has a tendancy to ruin reception.

EG:

We are looking at mounting them on the helmet for even better reception.

firiebob

3182 posts

firiebob

WA, 3182 posts

10 Jun 2007 12:37pm

I use upper arm also mineral, I have the walkie talkie pac and no probs with it slipping down. I also use the cord, incase the strap comes undone in a getoff etc.
Being a blind old b*stard, I wait till after my sail to see my max speed, but I do keep an eye out for the flashing red led

kato

VIC

3531 posts

kato

VIC, 3531 posts

10 Jun 2007 3:04pm

Just posted a photo of my navi case,not sure how to do the link to it from here,but its made in the same way as the garmin cases.Gets it first test tommorrow...I Hope

NotWal

QLD

7436 posts

NotWal

QLD, 7436 posts

10 Jun 2007 5:15pm

The buttons on the Navi stick up and seem to stick to the vinyl. Do you guys have any trouble with random button events? I was wondering if it would be a good idea to protect the buttons in some way.

nebbian

6277 posts

nebbian

WA, 6277 posts

10 Jun 2007 3:27pm

quote:
Originally posted by NotWal

Do you guys have any trouble with random button events?

Yes
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28112&whichpage=6&replies=177&PageSize=30&mxPages=6

mineral1

4564 posts

mineral1

WA, 4564 posts

10 Jun 2007 3:29pm

quote:
Originally posted by NotWal

The buttons on the Navi stick up and seem to stick to the vinyl. Do you guys have any trouble with random button events? I was wondering if it would be a good idea to protect the buttons in some way.

This was one item that concerned me, if the vinyl movement can change anything on the NAVi toggle as it was in use. Bit like Nebbian yesterday when his failed to record anything at all, although he was sure he had it powered up.

elmo

8894 posts

elmo

WA, 8894 posts

10 Jun 2007 3:31pm

Decrep being the wise guru of fixing stuff came up with and easy fix

Bung a piece of sponge in after your GPS which holds the cover of off the button.

The sponge has to be slightly thicker than your GPS, if you are sneeky about it I'm sure your Wife, brother, sister wouldn't notice it missing from their pillow.

firiebob

3182 posts

firiebob

WA, 3182 posts

10 Jun 2007 3:35pm

Yeh, but so far only setting it up before going out. I did see somewhere how to fit a nylon washer over the toggle. I thought about a rubber O-ring instead ?

decrepit

12885 posts

decrepit

WA, 12885 posts

10 Jun 2007 7:39pm

As Elmo says, I'm using a piece of foam rubber 4cm thick, I've used it on about 3 sessions without a problem.
I had thought about some sort of washer, but keeping it in place seemed a problem.

mineral1

4564 posts

mineral1

WA, 4564 posts

10 Jun 2007 8:07pm

quote:
Originally posted by decrepit

As Elmo says, I'm using a piece of foam rubber 4cm thick, I've used it on about 3 sessions without a problem.
I had thought about some sort of washer, but keeping it in place seemed a problem.

What I did this afternoon, (no wind and all) found some packing styrene, and carefully cut a window for the screen and a groove for the toggle, on/off and LED, thick enough to have toggle below surface. cut it same size as NAVi, and held in place by two large office type aeroplane engines (big lackey bands

)
Slips into aqua pack no problem.
Decrepit, like your idea, styrene will probably start to crumble after a bit of my treatment

will see what we have in that line at work tomorrow, that I can use

MintoxGT

975 posts

MintoxGT

WA, 975 posts

11 Jun 2007 10:45am

quote:
Originally posted by mineral1

quote:
Originally posted by decrepit

As Elmo says, I'm using a piece of foam rubber 4cm thick, I've used it on about 3 sessions without a problem.
I had thought about some sort of washer, but keeping it in place seemed a problem.

What I did this afternoon, (no wind and all) found some packing styrene, and carefully cut a window for the screen and a groove for the toggle, on/off and LED, thick enough to have toggle below surface. cut it same size as NAVi, and held in place by two large office type aeroplane engines (big lackey bands)
Slips into aqua pack no problem.
Decrepit, like your idea, styrene will probably start to crumble after a bit of my treatment will see what we have in that line at work tomorrow, that I can use

Good idea Mineral, will also add boyancey incase of nasty hispeed dismount.

Well done.

GT

mineral1

4564 posts

mineral1

WA, 4564 posts

11 Jun 2007 1:20pm

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Good idea Mineral, will also add boyancey incase of nasty hispeed dismount.

Well done.
GT

In my case the regularity of that, is more than one would expect

MintoxGT

975 posts

MintoxGT

WA, 975 posts

11 Jun 2007 1:57pm

quote:
Originally posted by mineral1

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Good idea Mineral, will also add boyancey incase of nasty hispeed dismount.

Well done.
GT

In my case the regularity of that, is more than one would expect

Clearly you have not witnessed I[}:)]

Instruction I was given at the beginning of this season just "Just back off a bit abd it cost as much" Hehehe he was right

Cheers mate

GT

mathew

QLD

2172 posts

mathew

QLD, 2172 posts

12 Jun 2007 12:18am

I originally started with the Foretrex strapped to my upper arm, but found that I got "muscle pump" too easily - there was no optimum position where I could have it tight enough not to move, but not affect the muscle. Eventually I found that my wrist was the best spot, as I can tighten it as much as is necessary.

And if you using an Aquapac, some (usually the bigger models) come with a strap/string which you can use to wrap around your neck (upper arm) or wrist (wrist).

decrepit

12885 posts

decrepit

WA, 12885 posts

11 Jun 2007 10:56pm

Hardy started me of with the rope round my neck.
Elmo kindly pointed out, that in a bad catapult if the rope happened to tangle in the boom, -- you could strangle or loose your head!!!!

Since then the rope goes round my arm.

mineral1

4564 posts

mineral1

WA, 4564 posts

11 Jun 2007 11:09pm

quote:
Originally posted by decrepit

As Elmo says, I'm using a piece of foam rubber 4cm thick, I've used it on about 3 sessions without a problem.
I had thought about some sort of washer, but keeping it in place seemed a problem.

decrepit, used a bit of foam that a computer bits came packed in. That firm black type packing foam. Perfect, just slid it into the aqua pack, and NAVi rest up against it, bit at the base so it doesn't flop about

elmo

8894 posts

elmo

WA, 8894 posts

11 Jun 2007 11:18pm

quote:
Originally posted by decrepit

Hardy started me of with the rope round my neck.
Elmo kindly pointed out, that in a bad catapult if the rope happened to tangle in the boom, -- you could strangle or loose your head!!!!

Since then the rope goes round my arm.

Always use the cord and slip knot the aquapac to your arm.

If you have a look at my Cervantes stack when I claim it, take a close look at one of my hands holding GPS, the cord held after the aquapac was ripped from my arm.

A little precaution could save having to buy another GPS

decrepit

12885 posts

decrepit

WA, 12885 posts

11 Jun 2007 11:31pm

quote:
Originally posted by mineral1

Perfect, just slid it into the aqua pack, and NAVi rest up against it, bit at the base so it doesn't flop about

Good one mineral, yes not necessary to shape it to navi, if it's at the toggle end it holds the window high enough.
The other thing I'm doing is putting the car remote lock in as well.
(This one isn't part of the key, it's nice rounded plastic. I wouldn't recomend putting a key in the pack)

mathew

QLD

2172 posts

mathew

QLD, 2172 posts

12 Jun 2007 11:29am

quote:
Originally posted by decrepit

Hardy started me of with the rope round my neck.
Elmo kindly pointed out, that in a bad catapult if the rope happened to tangle in the boom, -- you could strangle or loose your head!!!!

Since then the rope goes round my arm.

Doubt that will happen - the rope will break before you do :-) And if there is that much slack in the rope that it can get tangled, you probably have other problems to worry about - like trying to waterstart and have the rope tangle around your legs.

decrepit

12885 posts

decrepit

WA, 12885 posts

12 Jun 2007 6:55pm

Think I'll stick with Elmo's advice anyway, putting a slip knot round my neck just doesn't feel right anymore!!!

mineral1

4564 posts

mineral1

WA, 4564 posts

15 Jun 2007 9:08pm

quote:
Originally posted by mt best

Detailed instructions how to setup and use Navi in Aquapack are at ~~http://mtbest.net/using-navi-in-aquapack.html~~

Tom

Thanks for that Tom, good data, and yep have some of the Nylon type washers at work

can use them. Like the idea that you can toggle while its in the case

Mineral

yoyo

1646 posts

yoyo

WA, 1646 posts

15 Jun 2007 9:13pm

Mathew, if you (or your partner) are handy with a needle and thread you could sew some of the hook part of velcro on the inside of the arm band so it catches on the wetsuit nylon. Had the same circulation problems as you. Now with a 4 x 5cm patch on the inside even if it's loose it never slips or rotates. Makes it easier putting on one handed as well. I used some old hook side stuff from worn out footstraps.

decrepit

12885 posts

decrepit

WA, 12885 posts

16 Jun 2007 6:44pm

quote:
Originally posted by yoyo

you could sew some of the hook part of velcro on the inside of the arm band so it catches on the wetsuit nylon.

Now that's a great suggestion, ---where's my needle and thread!

sick_em_rex

NSW

1601 posts

sick_em_rex

NSW, 1601 posts

16 Jun 2007 9:09pm

I use a foretrex in an aquapac. The velcro strap on those is really long so I have it wrapped around my spreader bar. It doesn't foul the hook at all and it's super easy to look down and see it whilst sailing. Plus it makes the whole thing totally floatable so if by some weird and bizarre circumstance it does get ripped off in a wipeout it won't be too hard to spot it floating nearby.

OSkl

NSW

5 posts

OSkl

NSW, 5 posts

17 Jun 2007 12:49am

Go sick_em. That's what I do too

mathew

QLD

2172 posts

mathew

QLD, 2172 posts

17 Jun 2007 10:00pm

quote:
Originally posted by sick_em_rex

I use a foretrex in an aquapac. The velcro strap on those is really long so I have it wrapped around my spreader bar. It doesn't foul the hook at all and it's super easy to look down and see it whilst sailing. Plus it makes the whole thing totally floatable so if by some weird and bizarre circumstance it does get ripped off in a wipeout it won't be too hard to spot it floating nearby.

Except that you will get poor satellite coverage... -> your body will obstruct the satellite signals.

NotWal

QLD

7436 posts

NotWal

QLD, 7436 posts

17 Jun 2007 10:07pm

Is anyone using a Navi in the small Aquapack. I know its a tight fit.

sick_em_rex

NSW

1601 posts

sick_em_rex

NSW, 1601 posts

17 Jun 2007 10:08pm

actually Mathew, the unit is totally unobstructed by any part of my body. I can easily look down at the unit as I'm sailing to see the screen. It is effectively at waist height and due to the natural leaning back stance of windsurfing the unit is always face up to the sky and pulling in all 4 satellites 100% of the time. I have never had any loss of signal and rarely had a spike when wiping out so I think I'm on a good thing. But you're welcome to your point of view

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