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No News from Luderitz??

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Created by hardie 1 month ago, 18 Oct 2017
sboardcrazy
NSW, 5988 posts
11 Nov 2017 1:52PM
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Spotty said..
Walk thru' down the course with Faz' O'Shea...very good accurate description of how difficult it can be to tie a really good run together. No secrets or fake news here except Proffitts comment at the endThe lull section into stronger section towards the end, where the wind angle changes strength/direction as it works it way around the hill/range, adjacent to the stopping box, is where many including myself had the worst/scariest O'Sh#T,O'F*# moments. Luckily my forgiving Ka Assy fin saved me and re gripped with inches to spare from hitting the leeward bank.

The slow down area can be a challenge too, I tried a few different techniques. Sheeting out and straight lining it when it's on does not work, you will still hit the far end with speed. Bailing off is not an option as your gear will get launched blown out of the box and end up far away by the time, and if you get to it. Laying it down hard up against the road in the rolling chop is the way, A2 a master of it. Though once you have done that you have to turn back into it and hang on super tight at times. I got lifted at this point and slammed in a heavy gust. No time time to waste reading your gps, get out of there is the sporting thing to do, save it till after getting ashore.





What an excellent and informative commentary.
I don't think I'm up to Luderitz standard yet.



I wouldn't even consider trying unless they lined the sides with airbags.. Actually after the in depth coverage video I think I'd give it a miss even then..

Spotty
1026 posts
12 Nov 2017 4:16AM
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Consider flying a 7m2 airbag down a canal, ......well watching Seb' go around that corners apex on edge is incredible to witness, the acceleration he gets is pretty wicked.... for a kite. Throws a mean rooster tail too.

Sailquick may be able to share a old track and to see what his m/s2 is.

This is an Amazing Story!!!!!
The Guy is a NUTTER!!!!
We have a chat with the man behind the original Luderitz Speed Challenge Channel. Sebastien Cattelan
This year is the first time he's not organising the event but the 'Catman' is Back with no pressure and wants his World record back!!
WARNING: This Video includes Kites :) ...but don't worry he also Windsurfs!!

gavnwend
NSW, 878 posts
12 Nov 2017 7:55AM
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Seb is a character because he windsurfers as well.didnt relize he started the trench & dug it as well. He truly is a speed Knight.

choco
SA, 3188 posts
12 Nov 2017 8:37AM
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Port Parham Sa , any one got an excavator?

choco
SA, 3188 posts
12 Nov 2017 5:14PM
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Port Parham

Dr Speed
67 posts
12 Nov 2017 4:45PM
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7m kite is way too big in 60 kn. Bad mistake to have nothing smaller.

sailquik
VIC, 3539 posts
12 Nov 2017 11:37PM
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choco said..

Port Parham



very nice weed beds!

But how deep is that??

And in the first picture, you don't need an excavator, the channel is already there!

jimbob SA
SA, 833 posts
13 Nov 2017 8:56AM
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sailquik said..

choco said..

Port Parham




very nice weed beds!

But how deep is that??

And in the first picture, you don't need an excavator, the channel is already there!


Not deep enough, Hamma has had a go at it ?? Said never again, long long walk.

choco
SA, 3188 posts
13 Nov 2017 3:16PM
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jimbob SA said..

sailquik said..


choco said..

Port Parham





very nice weed beds!

But how deep is that??

And in the first picture, you don't need an excavator, the channel is already there!



Not deep enough, Hamma has had a go at it ?? Said never again, long long walk.


He didn't have the right gear, kept dragging on the bottom when trying to take off from memory, one of those weed fins that the NSW boys use could work.
That spot would be perfect to build an Aussie version of Ludertiz plus only an hour from Adelaide,
has anyone got better GPS speeds whether Windsurfer or Kite in Australia?

sailquik
VIC, 3539 posts
14 Nov 2017 10:11PM
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Top effort on the new kite record by Alex Caizergues for sure!

Does that spot get fairly regular 'serious' wind Choco? If so it needs to be explored and exploited more thats for sure!!

It looks like it would work fine with the 'weedy lakes' fins that have been developed in the last few years if it is 18-20cm or more deep. It sure looks flat! The great thing about the weedy locations is that angle is completely free, and that will allow board speed to wind speed ratios to approach new levels. We have already seen this at Albany, Fangys, Liptons, Budgie, and of course Lake George. And if it ever gets 35-45 knot's, very big speeds are possible.

One of the big problems with most speed spots, and certainly with the Luderitz canal, is that when the wind is really strong and really broad - which you need to go really fast - the water gets dangerously choppy with a rolling following swell. This increases drag and makes control harder as well. I speculate that an ideal weedy venue would allow very broad running angles, in super strong winds, with almost no waves.

Spotty
1026 posts
15 Nov 2017 3:16AM
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BP getting his matching Melllon speed helmet on

Spotty
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15 Nov 2017 3:31AM
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The Wind is finally back here at the Luderitz Speed Challenge! Not the crazy winds we wanted but there was enough to get on the water and down the channel! Hopefully the Wind Machine will be turned up to Full power the next few days and we will see some epic action!

Spotty
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15 Nov 2017 3:48AM
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Cranking!! note the windward bank.

Spotty
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15 Nov 2017 4:12AM
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On the canal comparing Melons

Spotty
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Wednesday , 15 Nov 2017 2:31PM
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It appears the rules of "The Stick" that I introduced back in 2013 are still helping things run smoothly

Hardie's EP9 link from above..

choco
SA, 3188 posts
Friday , 17 Nov 2017 7:25AM
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Ben Proffitt 48knt 500m peaked over 50knt

Spotty
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Friday , 17 Nov 2017 4:30PM
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Ben Proffitt 48knt 500m peaked over 50knt






got to be pretty chuffed with that!!!! and he is... plenty of speed sailing stoke going down as he departed...

49.1 was his previsional "timed" 500 on the board before it gets officiated to 48 ?

www.facebook.com/windsurfingtv/videos/1975952442692846/

hardie
WA, 3861 posts
Saturday , 18 Nov 2017 12:27PM
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sausage
QLD, 4644 posts
Saturday , 18 Nov 2017 9:01PM
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From his first real foray into speed sailing, Ben's stoke just shows how exhilarating the sport is. Going fast (whether it be 20, 30, 40 or 50knots) hooks anyone in who has done it.

BSN101
WA, 912 posts
Saturday , 18 Nov 2017 7:55PM
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From his first real foray into speed sailing, Ben's stoke just shows how exhilarating the sport is. Going fast (whether it be 20, 30, 40 or 50knots) hooks anyone in who has done it.


And a first timer, light weight first timer getting right up there. He might have some hidden talent in front of the camera too. And on a skinny board.
Just wondering where A2 is and why there were few or nil NP sails on the course. Severne & Loft mainly.
Did Mr Severne have another go?
I'm surprised that he's not gone fast before since he makes fast sails. Who wants one of those custom jobs?

John340
QLD, 1683 posts
Saturday , 18 Nov 2017 10:23PM
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BSN101 said..

sausage said..
From his first real foray into speed sailing, Ben's stoke just shows how exhilarating the sport is. Going fast (whether it be 20, 30, 40 or 50knots) hooks anyone in who has done it.



And a first timer, light weight first timer getting right up there. He might have some hidden talent in front of the camera too. And on a skinny board.
Just wondering where A2 is and why there were few or nil NP sails on the course. Severne & Loft mainly.
Did Mr Severne have another go?
I'm surprised that he's not gone fast before since he makes fast sails. Who wants one of those custom jobs?


A2 is in New Cal for the last PWA event

BSN101
WA, 912 posts
Saturday , 18 Nov 2017 9:56PM
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John340 said..

BSN101 said..


sausage said..
From his first real foray into speed sailing, Ben's stoke just shows how exhilarating the sport is. Going fast (whether it be 20, 30, 40 or 50knots) hooks anyone in who has done it.




And a first timer, light weight first timer getting right up there. He might have some hidden talent in front of the camera too. And on a skinny board.
Just wondering where A2 is and why there were few or nil NP sails on the course. Severne & Loft mainly.
Did Mr Severne have another go?
I'm surprised that he's not gone fast before since he makes fast sails. Who wants one of those custom jobs?



A2 is in New Cal for the last PWA event


How long is the wind around for the canal? Are the other big guns gonna be having a go too?

Spotty
1026 posts
Sunday , 19 Nov 2017 4:44AM
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Some results from yesterday,
Dunks headcam footage give a perspective how narrow it feels when your going fast down the canal...
www.facebook.com/bjorn.dunkerbeck/videos/1935192519841998/


This shot below of maybe Mr Benz trying kitesurfing gives you a few insights from the finish area, ...

1. The wind there gets compressed up against the hill and swirls a bit, so hold onto your toys tight.
2. The chop is perfect for learning how to lay it down at 90kph or turn into a bouncing bomb.
3. If you are the person left trying to hold down the rigs on the trailer ride back, don't reach up to pull the stones n grit from your eyes, everyone is counting on you that all the kit does not take flight and turn into a birds nest for the local Flamingo community. Though Farrel referred to them as chickens..ehh.
4. Wearing some Fred Haywood style speed goggles is retro & cool and psychs out your opponents as you operate within your own speed bubble, also stops you getting punched in the face by small rocks when its super windy.
5. The rigs stack much easier together when they all run SS' booms.
6. Sporting conduct, 'FOTTLO' first on the trailer, last off trailer. Don't try and stall your way out of the box if the trailer is empty and your next in line to get on it. Its the luck of the draw to who ends up last down the run and onto the trailer. Back near the start it can be a mad run in 40+ knots to get your gear off the trailer and reattached to your board, then make your way to the start/staging area and grab the Stick from the last person in the line wtg for their run.

When the peak wind on a given day may last 30-60mins be prepared to be waiting in line 20-25min if there 18-20 plus riders. Luck can play a part somewhat, if you have your own caddy/big enclosed van that drives fast it can help a lot in getting a high session run rate in and making the most of it.

choco
SA, 3188 posts
Sunday , 19 Nov 2017 7:52AM
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Spotty said..
Some results from yesterday,
Dunks headcam footage give a perspective how narrow it feels when your going fast down the canal...
www.facebook.com/bjorn.dunkerbeck/videos/1935192519841998/


This shot below of maybe Mr Benz trying kitesurfing gives you a few insights from the finish area, ...

1. The wind there gets compressed up against the hill and swirls a bit, so hold onto your toys tight.
2. The chop is perfect for learning how to lay it down at 90kph or turn into a bouncing bomb.
3. If you are the person left trying to hold down the rigs on the trailer ride back, don't reach up to pull the stones n grit from your eyes, everyone is counting on you that all the kit does not take flight and turn into a birds nest for the local Flamingo community. Though Farrel referred to them as chickens..ehh.
4. Wearing some Fred Haywood style speed goggles is retro & cool and psychs out your opponents as you operate within your own speed bubble, also stops you getting punched in the face by small rocks when its super windy.
5. The rigs stack much easier together when they all run SS' booms.
6. Sporting conduct, 'FOTTLO' first on the trailer, last off trailer. Don't try and stall your way out of the box if the trailer is empty and your next in line to get on it. Its the luck of the draw to who ends up last down the run and onto the trailer. Back near the start it can be a mad run in 40+ knots to get your gear off the trailer and reattached to your board, then make your way to the start/staging area and grab the Stick from the last person in the line wtg for their run.

When the peak wind on a given day may last 30-60mins be prepared to be waiting in line 20-25min if there 18-20 plus riders. Luck can play a part somewhat, if you have your own caddy/big enclosed van that drives fast it can help a lot in getting a high session run rate in and making the most of it.



His board is sitting nicely on the water not much bounce

Ian K
NSW, 2479 posts
Sunday , 19 Nov 2017 10:04AM
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His board is sitting nicely on the water not much bounce



And like a good boy he ALWAYS looks behind before he gybes. You never know when someone faster is coming down your inside.

BSN101
WA, 912 posts
Tuesday , 21 Nov 2017 8:43AM
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Now that Ben has left (god knows why he didn't get a month visa, take it out of the beer money kitty) will we still get updates from someone somewhere?

Spotty
1026 posts
Tuesday , 21 Nov 2017 7:46PM
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^ cause the Wind Gods required his services at the PWA Noumea.



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