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Created by olskool 1 month ago, 13 Jun 2019
olskool
QLD, 1407 posts
4 Jul 2019 5:38AM
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^^^ Wooohooo!! Hows the massive nose rocker on those bad boys!

LeeD
533 posts
5 Jul 2019 2:34AM
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Let's be somewhat realistic.
Huge difference in surface area between a Sealion and a 10'6" x 32 longboard shape SUP.
Even more difference from big sup to 115 liter wave boards.
I'd favor a 150 liter Fanatic Shark with it's multiple forward footstrap options or the bigger Sealion.

Mark _australia
WA, 19257 posts
5 Jul 2019 2:43AM
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Wow. Bottom turning a Shark must be fun. Freeride in the waves?

LeeD
533 posts
5 Jul 2019 3:43AM
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Not much difference than a 10'6" SUP.
This is not high performance DTL aerial crazy big air wavesailing.

forceten
730 posts
5 Jul 2019 11:00PM
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olskool said..
Righto all you wave bandits. Im 110kg looking for a wave board for SE Qld.
Happys / Mooloolaba
What should I be looking for?
Length?
Volume?
Width?
I'm ok on 120litre freeride/ slalom gear.


Does he want what he's asking for A wave board, that size wise stops near 105liters ?

i can not relate to his weight. I think that a Tabou 3S Classic in largest size. Or other generic equivalent.

forceten
730 posts
5 Jul 2019 11:06PM
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LeeD said..
Let's be somewhat realistic.
Huge difference in surface area between a Sealion and a 10'6" x 32 longboard shape SUP.
Even more difference from big sup to 115 liter wave boards.
I'd favor a 150 liter Fanatic Shark with it's multiple forward footstrap options or the bigger Sealion.


Why start now.
the SeaLion specs show a 109 115 135 and 150 liters, which bigger version ?
If a crossover SUP, windsup, light wind windsurfing training platform were wished for the SL 115/135 liter would be a front runner.
the OP wants a wave board.
As mentioned the Shark doesn't fit any of theses.

Mark _australia
WA, 19257 posts
8 Jul 2019 10:59AM
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LeeD said..
Not much difference than a 10'6" SUP.
This is not high performance DTL aerial crazy big air wavesailing.



You don't think a SUP rockerline is any different to a freeride board?

God, its about 4" more.

You do talk some rot.

martyj4
201 posts
9 Jul 2019 6:31AM
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Olskool, I have a 105 Dyno. Best board I have ever owned. Primarily for wavesailing in light conditions, but have also bought a big 34cm fin so can drop all the thrusters out and use it as a flat water blaster. Fairly flat rocker thru the back, so it'll get up and plane pretty early, but have found it VERY manouverable. It'll plane up almost as early as my slalom oriented boards. Yes, it was expensive, but it's very versatile. And really forgiving too.

olskool
QLD, 1407 posts
9 Jul 2019 2:35PM
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Marty, im 110kg. Rode my 120Hawk the other day. Sunk it to my knees when sail not powered up.
Dont think 105 will cut the mustard.
Thanks anyway.

P.C_simpson
WA, 1371 posts
10 Jul 2019 7:32PM
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Nuevo 110 or a 105 Dyno, Nuevo will turn much better than the Dyno but the Dyno will Plane faster, i use a Nuevo 101 pretty much every time i go wavesailing on the east coast.

I would also consider a 105 Nano, the plane well and crank upwind.

forceten
730 posts
11 Jul 2019 10:02PM
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P.C_simpson said..
Nuevo 110 or a 105 Dyno, Nuevo will turn much better than the Dyno but the Dyno will Plane faster, i use a Nuevo 101 pretty much every time i go wavesailing on the east coast.

I would also consider a 105 Nano, the plane well and crank upwind.


P C , What is your weight

LeeD
533 posts
Saturday , 13 Jul 2019 7:29AM
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Fanatic Shark 150 has a fsw rockerline, NOT a flat freeride rocker.
The nose rides really high, like any FSW, the length managable at 250cm for 150 liters, and the widepoint is decidedly well forward, making a narrow tail for it's 78cm width.
And at 150 liters, not too different than most SUP's.

Mark _australia
WA, 19257 posts
Saturday , 13 Jul 2019 2:14PM
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^^ FSW average is about 1" tail rocker.

SUP is about 4"

If there's no difference there I will eat my SUP.

The Shark not a waveboard no matter how you spin it. Fanatic call it freeride. They make other freemove and FSW boards so they are quite clear that it is not a FSW. The magazine tests put it in freeride.
It might be leaning towards FSW compared to other freerides, but that does not make it a waveboard. I doubt very much it has a FSW rocker and even if it did, a FSW is STILL not the same on a wave as a SUP.

My god. Somebody asked about Dodge Ram or F trucks and you said get a hatchback and a trailer cos its kinda the same.

LeeD
533 posts
Sunday , 14 Jul 2019 2:16AM
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Lotta talk, try experience maybe.
Shark 150 rides loose and hunting at full speed, NOT locked in like the 120 or 130, because it has slight full tail rocker.
Add in a widepoint well forwards and a relatively narrow tail compared to nose, a high lift nose rocker, and a VERY thin volume from front straps back with thin tail rails, and you get a bump n jump board for a 230lbs.+ rider...which is every bit as good as a 10' SUP, with correct wave riding positioned footstraps that allow jumping and bottom turn OTL combos.
At 22 lbs naked, same as the lightest high volume SUP, but waaay stronger for windsurfing in surf.
Not best for 6' Backyards for sure, but easily handles most surfsailing breaks like PuntaSanCarlos, WaddellCreek, Davenport higher tides, and all typical beginner to intermediate wave riding spots.

P.C_simpson
WA, 1371 posts
Sunday , 14 Jul 2019 5:16PM
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forceten said..

P.C_simpson said..
Nuevo 110 or a 105 Dyno, Nuevo will turn much better than the Dyno but the Dyno will Plane faster, i use a Nuevo 101 pretty much every time i go wavesailing on the east coast.

I would also consider a 105 Nano, the plane well and crank upwind.



P C , What is your weight


Around 100 Kgs

Madge
NSW, 158 posts
Sunday , 14 Jul 2019 7:28PM
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Goya make a 118 litres quad,I've got the 104 great board.

stehsegler
WA, 2974 posts
Monday , 15 Jul 2019 4:08PM
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Madge said..
Goya make a 118 litres quad,I've got the 104 great board.


The 118 Goya Quad is a pure wave board. Great for low wind down the line riding. Probably the best wave board for the purpose in that size on the market. Nog ideal in conditions were you need something that gets going early.

forceten
730 posts
Tuesday , 16 Jul 2019 10:48PM
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stehsegler said..

Madge said..
Goya make a 118 litres quad,I've got the 104 great board.



The 118 Goya Quad is a pure wave board. Great for low wind down the line riding. Probably the best wave board for the purpose in that size on the market. Nog ideal in conditions were you need something that gets going early.


Didn't know that a118 was in the Goya line up. I agree with your description in that it's what I would expect from Goya.
a proper wave board , pure .
it the opposite of a waddle out and ride in.

forceten
730 posts
Tuesday , 16 Jul 2019 10:51PM
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olskool said..
Thanks for all the info guys.
This would be my FIRST venture into the waves. Ive no idea about the different gear for different wind direction,onshore sideshore etc. Ive got a quiver of Ezzy SE.5.0,5.5,5.8,6.5. On the flat water I usually use at least+1m sail than most guys. Will the lil sails i have be ok?
Larger volume board would make sense to me. Swell usually only 3-4ft. Winds 10-20kts.
RichardG the 129 Exocet looks good. At least it'd have some float.
Mark, cost is a major part of the picture.Don't want to spend heaps on something i may not use often. I realize its going to be hard to find a suitable board with such high volume. But im sure there is something lurkin out there.
When i use my Hawk 120 im regularly dredging with the board totally submerged.


Interested in your findings so far.
a budget would put you into used categories, being practical and all.
I still think a FSW in the 115 liter size is the ticket to ride.

Von
SA, 94 posts
Wednesday , 17 Jul 2019 10:49PM
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I have a Nuevo 120, definitely not a good choice for you, hard work to get going, turns on a dime and is very reactive to weight shifting fore and aft just like a smaller wave board but it's good for my fat arse.
FSW is the go!

mr love
VIC, 1776 posts
Friday , 19 Jul 2019 6:54AM
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I,m working on one for ya Oldskool ...... 116 litres















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