I'm just under 70 kg. I don't know if you'd consider that light, but I've had my LTX 5.5 flying pretty well in anything from 10 to 25 knots. Under 10 is when it starts to get a bit problematic, but honestly, below 10 knots I'd rather do something else than parawing anyway. On top of that, I prefer having a full quiver of hybrids so the handling stays consistent across all my parawings. I came from a 5.4 single-skin and a 4.3 Hybrid. The 5.4 was the parawing I used the most because conditions where I live tend to be on the lighter side. Every time I switched to the 4.3, I needed some time to adjust my handling. Now, with the LTX as my big wing, I can switch between wings without any real adjustment time. And at the other end of the range, I can take the 4.3 out in 30+ knots without any problem. For me, having similar handling across the whole quiver is worth much more than squeezing out a little extra low-end from the biggest size.

hudijudi said..

scheggia said..
I'm just under 70 kg. I don't know if you'd consider that light, but I've had my LTX 5.5 flying pretty well in anything from 10 to 25 knots. Under 10 is when it starts to get a bit problematic, but honestly, below 10 knots I'd rather do something else than parawing anyway. On top of that, I prefer having a full quiver of hybrids so the handling stays consistent across all my parawings. I came from a 5.4 single-skin and a 4.3 Hybrid. The 5.4 was the parawing I used the most because conditions where I live tend to be on the lighter side. Every time I switched to the 4.3, I needed some time to adjust my handling. Now, with the LTX as my big wing, I can switch between wings without any real adjustment time. And at the other end of the range, I can take the 4.3 out in 30+ knots without any problem. For me, having similar handling across the whole quiver is worth much more than squeezing out a little extra low-end from the biggest size.

Do you have experience with the 3.1 hybrid as well? What is the range for you on the hybrids? I was not aware that the 4.3 was able to go up to 30+

No, my smallest hybrid is the 4.3. We almost never have 30+ kts days where I leave and if I have a nuking day I'll just go SUP downwind. Ranges are huge. I'm confortable eith the LTX 5.5 from 10 to 25 kts and with the Hybrid 4.3 from 15 to 30. Reality is that when it's around 18 I switch to the Hybrid.

Youngbreezy said..

scheggia said..

hudijudi said..

scheggia said..
I'm just under 70 kg. I don't know if you'd consider that light, but I've had my LTX 5.5 flying pretty well in anything from 10 to 25 knots. Under 10 is when it starts to get a bit problematic, but honestly, below 10 knots I'd rather do something else than parawing anyway. On top of that, I prefer having a full quiver of hybrids so the handling stays consistent across all my parawings. I came from a 5.4 single-skin and a 4.3 Hybrid. The 5.4 was the parawing I used the most because conditions where I live tend to be on the lighter side. Every time I switched to the 4.3, I needed some time to adjust my handling. Now, with the LTX as my big wing, I can switch between wings without any real adjustment time. And at the other end of the range, I can take the 4.3 out in 30+ knots without any problem. For me, having similar handling across the whole quiver is worth much more than squeezing out a little extra low-end from the biggest size.

Do you have experience with the 3.1 hybrid as well? What is the range for you on the hybrids? I was not aware that the 4.3 was able to go up to 30+

No, my smallest hybrid is the 4.3. We almost never have 30+ kts days where I leave and if I have a nuking day I'll just go SUP downwind. Ranges are huge. I'm confortable eith the LTX 5.5 from 10 to 25 kts and with the Hybrid 4.3 from 15 to 30. Reality is that when it's around 18 I switch to the Hybrid.

Thats mad! I have a 4.3 pt hybrid that I just got recently and haven’t used it yet( had one session on a friends 4.3 hybrid) the range of 15 to 30+ knots is epic, thats pretty much all the good days we have here in Perth. If you can hold yours at 30 knots at 70kg I should be able to manage it a bit higher than that at 105 kg. It might end up making my 3m PT skin redundant. Realistically for me I could be using it from 18 to 30-35 seems a bit hard to believe.


Sheggia do you think the 5.5 LTX has a bit less low end than the 5.4 PT skin? I am pretty happy with the range on the 5.4 it gets me going from about 12-15 up to about 20 knots which is good for our lighter days. I wouldn’t want to give up too much low end but if the 5.5 LTX is better packing and better upwind/ vmg that would make it a good upgrade.

Hey, I also have both the 5.4 Skin and the 5.5 LTX. With the 5.4 I can get going with my dw board and 1130S in 8-10 kts kind of easily, with the LTX it seems comparable but has a more on-off behavior and it taxis a touch worst.... Realistically I think with the LTX you lose 1-2 knots of low end, but you gain more than 5 of high end and at least one of VMG. It's also a lot easier to pack. I'm working on a complete review of the LTX and now I just miss a couple of sessions in the low end "zone" under 12 kts....

BWalnut said..
Of course, the wind didn't stay the same from session 1 to session 2 today but it was horrendously gusty and I went back to back LTX 3.1 and BRM S3 2.7:



Starting to think the BRM has better low end and LTX has better top end. Both sessions felt like I was using the right parawing. Also, it seems like no matter what parawing I use, when my foil size is around 700 my VMG is always low 6's.

Both sessions on Code 720s with Flex 110 tail. One Ocean 78sss v2 mast.

What tide is pushing against you for the data. Gorge is different to most locations

hilly said..

BWalnut said..
Of course, the wind didn't stay the same from session 1 to session 2 today but it was horrendously gusty and I went back to back LTX 3.1 and BRM S3 2.7:



Starting to think the BRM has better low end and LTX has better top end. Both sessions felt like I was using the right parawing. Also, it seems like no matter what parawing I use, when my foil size is around 700 my VMG is always low 6's.

Both sessions on Code 720s with Flex 110 tail. One Ocean 78sss v2 mast.

What tide is pushing against you for the data. Gorge is different to most locations

Right now it's low flow for us. When the Orbit shows up we will see if it's VMG can overcome the Code 720s. At this point I'm confident in saying I am 100% happy with the feel and experience on the water. The only time I am ever bummed is when I look at the GPS or try to put value in my ride based on a VMG score. Going to stop doing that soon because I have so much fun on the water when I am just shredding with these sails that I don't want to loose focus on that with thinking too much about a single attribute.

Beans said..
BW could you show us a picture of you Code adapters on your One Ocean mast ?

It's zero penalty like the lift one, very clean, no turbulence, burbles, or drag.

7.5 vmg with the 3.1 and 720 today which surprised me. So... VMG feels a bit unreliable for me, at least in the spots I ride. The 3.1m LTX ate up gusts today that people on 2.1m sails said were too much. Really happy with it. Going to try to focus on the review and getting that wrapped up ASAP.

BWalnut said..
7.5 vmg with the 3.1 and 720 today which surprised me.

“The only time I am ever bummed is when I look at the GPS or try to put value in my ride based on a VMG score”. But you always do it 😂😂

BWalnut said..
7.5 vmg with the 3.1 and 720 today which surprised me. So... VMG feels a bit unreliable for me, at least in the spots I ride. The 3.1m LTX ate up gusts today that people on 2.1m sails said were too much. Really happy with it. Going to try to focus on the review and getting that wrapped up ASAP.

With the water current you have in the river you can easily have a couple of knots of water speed that will affect your VMG if you are calculating it with your GPS.... You should have a pretty good estimation of the current speed and correct your SOG....