kitebored said..

Driks said..
Ahh I also thought about the glide 750 over the whizz 850. So u think for winging the glide is better?

I've got the glide v2 in 750 and 900, and the whizz 1000.

Glide 900 is my preferred, 750 when windy but not as comfortable for me as the 900. Whizz 1000 is my least favourite foil.. harder to get up than the 900, slower and has less glide, it does turn well but I really the glides turns perfectly fine and for me is much more fun.

I came from the previous gen 1 glides 905, 1085, 1305 and now don't need a larger foil, I get out in 10knts with the 900 and a large wing. For context I am a 95kg rider, have been riding almost a year, gybing and tacking and doing 50km sessions mostly lake and wind swell, maybe the whizz will be more useful when I get into the ocean more...

It sounds like you're really happy with the new setup! I'm considering getting one myself, especially since I am in similar weight. My previous brand had too much flex, so I decided to switch to another brand. SAB is a strong contender, but after reading your comments, I'm now also interested in Duotone DLAB slim 2.0. Did you use the DLAB Slim Mast? If so, what's the mast length, and did you notice any wobbling? Also, what was the highest speed you reached with the 750 and 900 models?

The Glide and Carve 2.0 are very contrasting foils and as such behave very differently. The Carve doesn't have nearly the glide of the Glide, but where it really shines is manoeuvrability and pop.

I would like to share my experience on the new glide v2 750 and ask for advice. I was a huge fan of the glide v1 905 and sailed it most of last year. So I ordered the new v2 750 glide as soon as I could get my hands on it. I have both really positive but also somewhat frustrating experience with it so far. As others have mentioned, it's the superior foil in terms of its glide, pump, and turning abilities, and the 750 is very generous with its stall speeds and is very forgiving and requires a similar skill level to the old 905. I could see this being a one-foil quiver type of foil.

However, here's the flip side. I can't seem to get the balance quite dialed in yet. At first when I tried setting the mast in the middle of the foil tracks like I used to with the 905, I noticed the nose of the board wanted to dive as soon as I'd get on foil. I was recommended to try pushing the mast forward and shimming up, and as others have mentioned earlier in this thread, that seems to help. It has taken away most (but not all) of the nose wanting to dive. I still can't push for my max speed because at higher speeds, the nose still does have a slight propensity to want to dive a bit. This is with the mast slammed all the way forward on the foil tracks and using a +0.3 shim on the stabilizer. I've also noticed that with this setup, at lower speeds, the balance is shifted in the other direction, requiring excessive front foot pressure to keep the nose down (it's very lifty and jumpy).

I've also tried using the larger stab from the v1 905 (no shim) and mast also most of the way forward, and that actually does seem to mostly fix the nose diving issue, but seems to sap the glide, pump, and playfulness of the foil, so I don't like that setup as much.

I am curious if people have any thoughts on any other adjustments I could try. I was planning to try the +0.6 shim with the mast less forward in hopes that this will help balance things out a bit between the nose diving at high speed and nose lifting at low speed. Would appreciate any other thoughts/ suggestions.

sagefoil said..
I would like to share my experience on the new glide v2 750 and ask for advice. I was a huge fan of the glide v1 905 and sailed it most of last year. So I ordered the new v2 750 glide as soon as I could get my hands on it. I have both really positive but also somewhat frustrating experience with it so far. As others have mentioned, it's the superior foil in terms of its glide, pump, and turning abilities, and the 750 is very generous with its stall speeds and is very forgiving and requires a similar skill level to the old 905. I could see this being a one-foil quiver type of foil.

However, here's the flip side. I can't seem to get the balance quite dialed in yet. At first when I tried setting the mast in the middle of the foil tracks like I used to with the 905, I noticed the nose of the board wanted to dive as soon as I'd get on foil. I was recommended to try pushing the mast forward and shimming up, and as others have mentioned earlier in this thread, that seems to help. It has taken away most (but not all) of the nose wanting to dive. I still can't push for my max speed because at higher speeds, the nose still does have a slight propensity to want to dive a bit. This is with the mast slammed all the way forward on the foil tracks and using a +0.3 shim on the stabilizer. I've also noticed that with this setup, at lower speeds, the balance is shifted in the other direction, requiring excessive front foot pressure to keep the nose down (it's very lifty and jumpy).

I've also tried using the larger stab from the v1 905 (no shim) and mast also most of the way forward, and that actually does seem to mostly fix the nose diving issue, but seems to sap the glide, pump, and playfulness of the foil, so I don't like that setup as much.

I am curious if people have any thoughts on any other adjustments I could try. I was planning to try the +0.6 shim with the mast less forward in hopes that this will help balance things out a bit between the nose diving at high speed and nose lifting at low speed. Would appreciate any other thoughts/ suggestions.

Lee's the expert, adding on 2022 Style 75ls two of us have mast at front with 66 fuse (60 pitch sensitive) and +0.3 shim cured nose dive at speed. When slow get huge front foot pressure as close to stall, a good thing as you can recover from lull instead of dropping out. Friend used 750 with 60 fuse and Px160, said it worked well.

patronus said..

sagefoil said..
I would like to share my experience on the new glide v2 750 and ask for advice. I was a huge fan of the glide v1 905 and sailed it most of last year. So I ordered the new v2 750 glide as soon as I could get my hands on it. I have both really positive but also somewhat frustrating experience with it so far. As others have mentioned, it's the superior foil in terms of its glide, pump, and turning abilities, and the 750 is very generous with its stall speeds and is very forgiving and requires a similar skill level to the old 905. I could see this being a one-foil quiver type of foil.

However, here's the flip side. I can't seem to get the balance quite dialed in yet. At first when I tried setting the mast in the middle of the foil tracks like I used to with the 905, I noticed the nose of the board wanted to dive as soon as I'd get on foil. I was recommended to try pushing the mast forward and shimming up, and as others have mentioned earlier in this thread, that seems to help. It has taken away most (but not all) of the nose wanting to dive. I still can't push for my max speed because at higher speeds, the nose still does have a slight propensity to want to dive a bit. This is with the mast slammed all the way forward on the foil tracks and using a +0.3 shim on the stabilizer. I've also noticed that with this setup, at lower speeds, the balance is shifted in the other direction, requiring excessive front foot pressure to keep the nose down (it's very lifty and jumpy).

I've also tried using the larger stab from the v1 905 (no shim) and mast also most of the way forward, and that actually does seem to mostly fix the nose diving issue, but seems to sap the glide, pump, and playfulness of the foil, so I don't like that setup as much.

I am curious if people have any thoughts on any other adjustments I could try. I was planning to try the +0.6 shim with the mast less forward in hopes that this will help balance things out a bit between the nose diving at high speed and nose lifting at low speed. Would appreciate any other thoughts/ suggestions.

Lee's the expert, adding on 2022 Style 75ls two of us have mast at front with 66 fuse (60 pitch sensitive) and +0.3 shim cured nose dive at speed. When slow get huge front foot pressure as close to stall, a good thing as you can recover from lull instead of dropping out. Friend used 750 with 60 fuse and Px160, said it worked well.

Yeah 2022 board will be right at front and 23. 24/25 boards have boxes further forward.

px 160 works great, no shim needed and mast will be further back than h or s tail

sagefoil said..

leepasty said..

patronus said..

sagefoil said..
I would like to share my experience on the new glide v2 750 and ask for advice. I was a huge fan of the glide v1 905 and sailed it most of last year. So I ordered the new v2 750 glide as soon as I could get my hands on it. I have both really positive but also somewhat frustrating experience with it so far. As others have mentioned, it's the superior foil in terms of its glide, pump, and turning abilities, and the 750 is very generous with its stall speeds and is very forgiving and requires a similar skill level to the old 905. I could see this being a one-foil quiver type of foil.

However, here's the flip side. I can't seem to get the balance quite dialed in yet. At first when I tried setting the mast in the middle of the foil tracks like I used to with the 905, I noticed the nose of the board wanted to dive as soon as I'd get on foil. I was recommended to try pushing the mast forward and shimming up, and as others have mentioned earlier in this thread, that seems to help. It has taken away most (but not all) of the nose wanting to dive. I still can't push for my max speed because at higher speeds, the nose still does have a slight propensity to want to dive a bit. This is with the mast slammed all the way forward on the foil tracks and using a +0.3 shim on the stabilizer. I've also noticed that with this setup, at lower speeds, the balance is shifted in the other direction, requiring excessive front foot pressure to keep the nose down (it's very lifty and jumpy).

I've also tried using the larger stab from the v1 905 (no shim) and mast also most of the way forward, and that actually does seem to mostly fix the nose diving issue, but seems to sap the glide, pump, and playfulness of the foil, so I don't like that setup as much.

I am curious if people have any thoughts on any other adjustments I could try. I was planning to try the +0.6 shim with the mast less forward in hopes that this will help balance things out a bit between the nose diving at high speed and nose lifting at low speed. Would appreciate any other thoughts/ suggestions.

Lee's the expert, adding on 2022 Style 75ls two of us have mast at front with 66 fuse (60 pitch sensitive) and +0.3 shim cured nose dive at speed. When slow get huge front foot pressure as close to stall, a good thing as you can recover from lull instead of dropping out. Friend used 750 with 60 fuse and Px160, said it worked well.

Yeah 2022 board will be right at front and 23. 24/25 boards have boxes further forward.

px 160 works great, no shim needed and mast will be further back than h or s tail

Really appreciate the feedback so far! Looks like I can't really get my hands on the p 160x here in the US, but I do still have the p 165 stab from my 2024 glide v1 725, looks pretty similar to the p 160x. I'll give that a shot and report back.

I prefer +0.3 shim on the p165

sagefoil said..

leepasty said..

sagefoil said..

leepasty said..

patronus said..

sagefoil said..
I would like to share my experience on the new glide v2 750 and ask for advice. I was a huge fan of the glide v1 905 and sailed it most of last year. So I ordered the new v2 750 glide as soon as I could get my hands on it. I have both really positive but also somewhat frustrating experience with it so far. As others have mentioned, it's the superior foil in terms of its glide, pump, and turning abilities, and the 750 is very generous with its stall speeds and is very forgiving and requires a similar skill level to the old 905. I could see this being a one-foil quiver type of foil.

However, here's the flip side. I can't seem to get the balance quite dialed in yet. At first when I tried setting the mast in the middle of the foil tracks like I used to with the 905, I noticed the nose of the board wanted to dive as soon as I'd get on foil. I was recommended to try pushing the mast forward and shimming up, and as others have mentioned earlier in this thread, that seems to help. It has taken away most (but not all) of the nose wanting to dive. I still can't push for my max speed because at higher speeds, the nose still does have a slight propensity to want to dive a bit. This is with the mast slammed all the way forward on the foil tracks and using a +0.3 shim on the stabilizer. I've also noticed that with this setup, at lower speeds, the balance is shifted in the other direction, requiring excessive front foot pressure to keep the nose down (it's very lifty and jumpy).

I've also tried using the larger stab from the v1 905 (no shim) and mast also most of the way forward, and that actually does seem to mostly fix the nose diving issue, but seems to sap the glide, pump, and playfulness of the foil, so I don't like that setup as much.

I am curious if people have any thoughts on any other adjustments I could try. I was planning to try the +0.6 shim with the mast less forward in hopes that this will help balance things out a bit between the nose diving at high speed and nose lifting at low speed. Would appreciate any other thoughts/ suggestions.

Lee's the expert, adding on 2022 Style 75ls two of us have mast at front with 66 fuse (60 pitch sensitive) and +0.3 shim cured nose dive at speed. When slow get huge front foot pressure as close to stall, a good thing as you can recover from lull instead of dropping out. Friend used 750 with 60 fuse and Px160, said it worked well.

Yeah 2022 board will be right at front and 23. 24/25 boards have boxes further forward.

px 160 works great, no shim needed and mast will be further back than h or s tail

Really appreciate the feedback so far! Looks like I can't really get my hands on the p 160x here in the US, but I do still have the p 165 stab from my 2024 glide v1 725, looks pretty similar to the p 160x. I'll give that a shot and report back.

I prefer +0.3 shim on the p165

Okay, reporting back after getting to properly test things out today. p165 solved all my problems :)

I tried with and without a +0.25 shim, as well as adjusting the mast forward and back. I found for me the best setting was with no shim, and mast about an inch or so foward of center. Super well balanced. Absolutely no nose-diving at higher speeds, while not requiring excessive front-foot pressure at low-speeds. Can finally really enjoy riding this foil!

THANK YOU to both of you (lee and patronus for the awesome suggestion).

Great you found a combo that works. What fuse are you using?

Migkite said..
I've just got a a Glide SLS 2.0 900/H185 to replace a Carve SLS 2.0 1100/P200. I've just use the new glide a couple of times on very tricky conditions so I still don't have a clear idea of its performance, but I would really appreciate any recommendation about:

I use a Carbon 68 fuse and ride mainly on lakes and open sea but normally no waves at all.

- Should I used for winging the H185 or I had better using it with a P200 or a P180?
- Should I shim the H185 or the P200?
- Any recommendation for mast position in an Armstrong ML 75?
- For high winds and choppy conditions I plan to keep on using a Carve 2.0 850/P180, as I think that in those tough conditions control and turning will help me better than glide. Am I right?

Hi there,

Depends a bit on what you are looking for - speed, glide, turning, early starts?

But generally to the questions:

1. Try it first with the H185 for winging, this will give the best balanced performance, as this is the back wing it was developed with, also for winging. If you want to use a P stab, then you will lose some pump/glide, but gain some speed. Would suggest the 180 rather than the 200.
2. Shimming - first get the mast position in the board right, this is a lot easier than playing around with shims/has a much bigger influence, shimming is more about trimming - so the Armstrong boxes are usually a bit further forward than our DT boards - so probably around the centre to slightly in front of the centre is a good place to start - if you miss front foot pressure, just keep moving it forward every 10mins after trying, until you have a good steady front foot pressure that is comfortable, but not overpowering.
3. Carve 2.0/850 - yes those two should be well enough spaced apart in terms of range, as the Glide 2.0 has a lot more lift/power than the 1.0 version, closer to the Glide 1.0 1085 than the 905.- you may need to play around to get the right mast position which works for both - typically the Glide 2.0 should be placed slightly further forward than the Carve 2.0, for normal riding. Yes, Carve 2.0 better in strong conditions, control, tighter turns possible due to lower aspect ratio.
4. Shimming, once you have the mast position figured out, just add shims accordingly, ie you need more lift, add the positive shims, less lift/front foot pressure, negatives. usually best to do this in small increments.

Good luck!

patronus said..

sagefoil said..

leepasty said..

sagefoil said..

leepasty said..

patronus said..

sagefoil said..
I would like to share my experience on the new glide v2 750 and ask for advice. I was a huge fan of the glide v1 905 and sailed it most of last year. So I ordered the new v2 750 glide as soon as I could get my hands on it. I have both really positive but also somewhat frustrating experience with it so far. As others have mentioned, it's the superior foil in terms of its glide, pump, and turning abilities, and the 750 is very generous with its stall speeds and is very forgiving and requires a similar skill level to the old 905. I could see this being a one-foil quiver type of foil.

However, here's the flip side. I can't seem to get the balance quite dialed in yet. At first when I tried setting the mast in the middle of the foil tracks like I used to with the 905, I noticed the nose of the board wanted to dive as soon as I'd get on foil. I was recommended to try pushing the mast forward and shimming up, and as others have mentioned earlier in this thread, that seems to help. It has taken away most (but not all) of the nose wanting to dive. I still can't push for my max speed because at higher speeds, the nose still does have a slight propensity to want to dive a bit. This is with the mast slammed all the way forward on the foil tracks and using a +0.3 shim on the stabilizer. I've also noticed that with this setup, at lower speeds, the balance is shifted in the other direction, requiring excessive front foot pressure to keep the nose down (it's very lifty and jumpy).

I've also tried using the larger stab from the v1 905 (no shim) and mast also most of the way forward, and that actually does seem to mostly fix the nose diving issue, but seems to sap the glide, pump, and playfulness of the foil, so I don't like that setup as much.

I am curious if people have any thoughts on any other adjustments I could try. I was planning to try the +0.6 shim with the mast less forward in hopes that this will help balance things out a bit between the nose diving at high speed and nose lifting at low speed. Would appreciate any other thoughts/ suggestions.

Lee's the expert, adding on 2022 Style 75ls two of us have mast at front with 66 fuse (60 pitch sensitive) and +0.3 shim cured nose dive at speed. When slow get huge front foot pressure as close to stall, a good thing as you can recover from lull instead of dropping out. Friend used 750 with 60 fuse and Px160, said it worked well.

Yeah 2022 board will be right at front and 23. 24/25 boards have boxes further forward.

px 160 works great, no shim needed and mast will be further back than h or s tail

Really appreciate the feedback so far! Looks like I can't really get my hands on the p 160x here in the US, but I do still have the p 165 stab from my 2024 glide v1 725, looks pretty similar to the p 160x. I'll give that a shot and report back.

I prefer +0.3 shim on the p165

Okay, reporting back after getting to properly test things out today. p165 solved all my problems :)

I tried with and without a +0.25 shim, as well as adjusting the mast forward and back. I found for me the best setting was with no shim, and mast about an inch or so foward of center. Super well balanced. Absolutely no nose-diving at higher speeds, while not requiring excessive front-foot pressure at low-speeds. Can finally really enjoy riding this foil!

THANK YOU to both of you (lee and patronus for the awesome suggestion).

Great you found a combo that works. What fuse are you using?

I'm on a carbon 68 fuse