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Kryspen
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31 Jul 2026 3:56pm
Kankama said..
Okay - I have nothing now. If the batteries are these ones

www.jaycar.com.au/12v-120ah-lithium-deep-cycle-battery-6000-cycles/p/SB2216

They can output 100A with a peak of 200A, so there should be no issue with the BMS reducing output current.

The next thing to do is to pull the motor apart. It could be that the problem in the toilet coincidentally occurred with the new batteries. It would be good to put the AGMs back on and check if the problem exists still. If it is a brushed motor it could be the brushes that have a problem. I had an electric anchor winch that was going slower and slower, it seemed like the batteries were problematic. However I bridged everything out and used another charged batteryand it still was an issue. So I pulled the motor apart and the brushes looked okay but I gave them a light sand with fine wet and dry. I also cleaned up the commutator with fine sand paper and lots of WD40 until the copper commutator was nice and bright. I couldn't find any real problem but when I put it back together it worked like new. It was only 3 years old.


Yep , that's the battery I've got. I will try taking macerator apart, again and test the motor.
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Kryspen
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31 Jul 2026 3:53pm
Kankama said..
Something odd here - of course. The 130 AH lithiums should be fine to run 25 amps, there should be no need to get three. The problem is somewhere else. It would help if we knew the type of Lithiums - maybe they are just bad batteries. I certainly know my Watt cycle 200AHs can deliver up to 100 amps as stated on the box - no worries with the anchor winch or inverter loads. Lithiums are great at running motors usually.

Maybe they didn't charge properly and are flat - the voltage curve on lithiums is really flat and hard to tell if they are depleted. If Kryspen has not updated the alternator then maybe this got fried initially and the lithiums didn't charge at all. Maybe take them home and charge one at home and try again.

I just read that there is solar too - so probably not charge - it could be a strange thing.

There are some anchor winches that do not like lithiums - Quicks IIRC. The electric motors are designed for less than 12 volts. So when connected up to lithiums (which don't do voltage drop like AGM or flooded) the motors get too HIGH a voltage. The Jabsco toilet may have some sort of voltage monitor to stop too HIGH a voltage running through it. Toilet wires are long and probably thin, so the voltage with the AGMs was probably about 11 volts and with lithiums it could be 13.5 still.

However AI tells me this will not be it, so maybe we are back to the lithiums and a shoddy BMS. When the connector is opened there could be a much hugher inrush current an the 25 amps pulled - maybe up to 50 or more for a microsecond. It would be a pretty terrible lithium not to be able to handle 100 amps, but if the BMS can only handle 40 amps, then the inrush current could certainly trip it - but what lithium would be so low in current delivery?

Kryspen could try putting another high load on the system - an inverter running something or the anchor winch. Do they work?

We need to know the specs of the battery and more about the system.


I did used inverter and there's no problem at all , it's 4000/8000 inverter, slight voltage drop but works ok ( used to power up my Watermaker.

Quixotic said..
I've lithiums and no problem powering my jabsco heads or my muir anchor winch. If the batteries went in, in May and its July you're having problems with the toilet, makes me wonder about length of time away from the boat, and whether its a heads problem independent of the batteries (ie just a coincidence). Assuming it's salt water flush, you can get salt build up around the impeller, if there's evaporation from the bowl while away for a long period. And/or the impeller can bind to the porcelain when not used for a lengthy period, or if it has been run dry. Best to put freshwater into the bowl and pump a little through when you're going to leave the head for a long time. I'd try running the jabsco directly off an AGM, and if its not turning willingly, pull it apart and make sure the impeller is OK. If it does turn willingly on the AGM, then that does suggest it is the new batteries, somehow. (BTW I'm assuming you've remembered to open the stopcocks etc 😉 and haven't got a blockage problem with a holding tank or somesuch)



Appreciate advice.
I live on my boat so there's no " away from boat ". Macerator pump pulled apart, inspected, all good. Lifting water with no problem.
After spending $ on lithium battery + victron DC DC charger + mppt I'm not going back to AGM or gell ( they are gone ).
I try upgrade wiring to 8wg size, maybe will help.
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Kryspen
Kryspen
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31 Jul 2026 9:15am
Kankama said..
Something odd here - of course. The 130 AH lithiums should be fine to run 25 amps, there should be no need to get three. The problem is somewhere else. It would help if we knew the type of Lithiums - maybe they are just bad batteries. I certainly know my Watt cycle 200AHs can deliver up to 100 amps as stated on the box - no worries with the anchor winch or inverter loads. Lithiums are great at running motors usually.

Maybe they didn't charge properly and are flat - the voltage curve on lithiums is really flat and hard to tell if they are depleted. If Kryspen has not updated the alternator then maybe this got fried initially and the lithiums didn't charge at all. Maybe take them home and charge one at home and try again.

I just read that there is solar too - so probably not charge - it could be a strange thing.

There are some anchor winches that do not like lithiums - Quicks IIRC. The electric motors are designed for less than 12 volts. So when connected up to lithiums (which don't do voltage drop like AGM or flooded) the motors get too HIGH a voltage. The Jabsco toilet may have some sort of voltage monitor to stop too HIGH a voltage running through it. Toilet wires are long and probably thin, so the voltage with the AGMs was probably about 11 volts and with lithiums it could be 13.5 still.

However AI tells me this will not be it, so maybe we are back to the lithiums and a shoddy BMS. When the connector is opened there could be a much hugher inrush current an the 25 amps pulled - maybe up to 50 or more for a microsecond. It would be a pretty terrible lithium not to be able to handle 100 amps, but if the BMS can only handle 40 amps, then the inrush current could certainly trip it - but what lithium would be so low in current delivery?

Kryspen could try putting another high load on the system - an inverter running something or the anchor winch. Do they work?

We need to know the specs of the battery and more about the system.


I did used inverter and there's no problem at all , it's 4000/8000 inverter, slight voltage drop but works ok ( used to power up my Watermaker.
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Kryspen
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31 Jul 2026 9:12am
Kryspen said..










Today's chart - did use toilet ( no seeds 😁 ). Possibly BMS stop it
Battery is brand new installed in May - Powertech lithium 120ah each from Jaycar charged by victron DC DC charger, now with victron mppt 100/30 charging ok as display parameters.
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Kryspen
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31 Jul 2026 9:07am







Kryspen
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30 Jul 2026 1:11pm
Well, i replaced my AGM ( 3 x 110 ah ) with 2 lithium 120 ah each.
Yes, it works nicely, plenty of juice to run fridge 24/7 and lights.
But, when it comes to flushing my jabsco electric don't really want to run. It looks like battery is dying. I run engine before flashing and not much healp really. Few seconds and everything stop. Have to weigh a minute to system response. Today i by pass everything thinking that there's some wiring issues. Connect jabsco directly to + - battery bass bar and nope, same thing. Looks like fully charged lithium with 240 ah and engine running is not able to run jabsco electric to run properly. Have to admit that there was no problem with AGM.
If i install another 120 ah lithium than i need also upgrade my mppt from 100/30 to 100/50 i think due to charging time.
Reading about the solar, the 2 120 ah supposed to be equivalent to 300 ah. You would think that this should be enough to turn electric jabsco macerator over without any problems.
Anyone have similar hiccup ? Appreciate possible solution.
Kryspen
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3 Mar 2026 2:25pm
Planing on replacement my victron gell battery's ( after 5 years ) to lithium. There are so many brands ( no Temu ?? ) and all claim wanders. Is anyone have good info on the brand for lithium batteries ? Some claim many different cycles life. I have no shore power staying on the hook and wonder if charging new batteries with DC DC charger ( new are about 30% charged only ), is enough by running engine will be sufficient.