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18 Jul 2026 6:43am
Toph said..
Trek, just to clarify for my sake, are you pro lithium only provided it has the right certification, or would you not go the lithium route again??








I think Lithium is fine as long as good ones, ideally certified, and precautions in place. Ive got them on my boat. I got that confidence from them being used as main batteries on the A350 and 787 aircraft. My main precaution is temperature sensor on top of each and I get alarm at 50 Deg. I picked that because 50 Deg+ is too hot to touch and something must be wrong.

I looked into any way of putting out a lithium battery fire and there isnt, except massively cool them which is hard to do. Ideally they need a quick release mechanism so if there was impending danger they could quickly be tossed overboard.
Trek
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16 Jul 2026 12:28pm
The obvious point about the SMH article is even with the best efforts of teams of engineers the batteries still seem imperfectly controllable. The BMS software is blamed in one case allowing the batteries to over charge. What??!! Obviously untested. So that's what we are relying on. Untested BMS unless there Is a certificate. In my medical work software is not allowed to control critical devices.

Trek
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15 Jul 2026 2:03pm
Sorry to jump in.

Hmmm these are lithium batteries
www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/why-do-sydney-s-trams-keep-catching-fire-20260713-p60eyt.html

Over to you Jules......
Trek
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10 Jul 2026 10:22am
A very simple step the battery manufacturers could take is to make the top of the battery removable and/or the case transparent so a user can check out its basic build.
Trek
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3 Jul 2026 7:38am
There actually is a USA standard for installation of lithium batteries on boats ABYC E-13. The American Boat and Yacht Council’s industry-standard for the safe installation, operation, and maintenance of lithium-ion battery systems on recreational boats. It requires marine-certified batteries that meet IEC62619 (ie. they should come with a certificate of safety), proper ventilation, robust Battery Management Systems (BMS that actually work and are bullet proof), and secure restraints. This is an excellent guide. In Australia there is AS/NZS 3004.2:2014 which are government mandated standards for installation of lithium batteries on recreational vessels.
Trek
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2 Jul 2026 4:03am
IMHO even LiFePO4 barreries can burn but are enormously safer than other chemistries. Thermal run away much less likely. Since we cant see inside a big battery we have to assume its unknown BMS and cell quality unless certified. So take precautions. Put them in a metal vented box so if they fail the fire is less likely to sink the boat. Like on aircraft that use them. And monitor their temperature. I dont have mine in a box but both batteries have temperature sensors glued on top to trigger an alarm if they get hot and isolation relays to disconnect them if that happens.Maybe Im paranoid but fires on boats are scary.
Trek
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30 Jun 2026 7:20pm
Hi Andy what deal did you get and which insurer?
Trek
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26 Jun 2026 9:57am
Put a Trek Transponde or similar on your boats. Same concept as an alarm in your home. Can make uninsurable boats insurable and reduce premiums and excess on other boats. My boat was doubtfully insurable but because the insurer knows its monitored they took it on. No out of water survey required. The bonus is unless something goes wrong really fast you can fix if before it costs you.
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23 Jun 2026 8:08am
A good news story.

By Raphael Lee Cass

Trek
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19 Jun 2026 10:39am

There is a list of marine insurers you can get quotes from here:

www.boatinsure.au
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Trek
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10 Jun 2026 8:47pm
cammd said..

Trek said..
I like solar and lithium batteries because barring rare breakdowns it makes the boat totally independent of the mainland. We can head off any time for an "unlimited" time. Very very rarely ever need to find somewhere to fill up with diesel run the engine for electric power.

Same reason for preferring a metho stove. Don't need to lug an LPG tank around or find a place to refill it. We can pull in anywhere that has a hardware shop and get more metho. After teaching everyone how to light it, which is a scary process, we can have a meat/fish and three veg meal anytime. One 75W solar panel (and a spare) with MPPT regulator 300AH of batteries has never in 5 years got desperately low in power. And that includes warming pies and sausage rolls in our 12V oven.

The old Volvo 2003 did have an alternator on it which was a very noisely and dodgy. Full of corrosion and rust. I thought about replacing it but after finding out the cost of a new one - no way. So because the solar power system was running fine I took it off 3 years ago and never looked back. Got rid of the fan belt that ran it, got rid of a lot of noise and the boat motors noticably faster. So for better or worse Ive dumped generators.



What do you do if you get a week or two of overcast weather.




As mentioned in my post in 5 years never a problem. Even if its overcast the batteries charge. Thats why a good MPPT regulator is worthwhile. If the batteries are looking low just dont use the oven that day.
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Trek
Trek
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10 Jun 2026 4:32pm
I like solar and lithium batteries because barring rare breakdowns it makes the boat totally independent of the mainland. We can head off any time for an "unlimited" time. Very very rarely ever need to find somewhere to fill up with diesel run the engine for electric power.

Same reason for preferring a metho stove. Don't need to lug an LPG tank around or find a place to refill it. We can pull in anywhere that has a hardware shop and get more metho. After teaching everyone how to light it, which is a scary process, we can have a meat/fish and three veg meal anytime. One 75W solar panel (and a spare) with MPPT regulator 300AH of batteries has never in 5 years got desperately low in power. And that includes warming pies and sausage rolls in our 12V oven.

The old Volvo 2003 did have an alternator on it which was a very noisely and dodgy. Full of corrosion and rust. I thought about replacing it but after finding out the cost of a new one - no way. So because the solar power system was running fine I took it off 3 years ago and never looked back. Got rid of the fan belt that ran it, got rid of a lot of noise and the boat motors noticably faster. So for better or worse Ive dumped generators.
Trek
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25 May 2026 9:56am
colinbeashelmarine.com/ usually have mooring available, you would need to pay a nominal amount. Located Elvina Bay. Then get Pink Lady water taxi to Church Point wharf where there is a bus to Woolworths.
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24 May 2026 7:55pm
YouTube, click on the video above
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24 May 2026 11:23am
Now I realise the main purpose of the crash helmets. After watching the races from time to time the TV coverage would switch to a boats intercom. So you can see the action and hear it. Sometimes tense messages between crew and very good for AC marketing. Get the younger generation interested by showing action versus dinosaurs 😆. I learnt some good stuff about sail trim. These boats are perfect. Anyway when sound switched to boats intercom the crew are shouting above howling noise and wind whistling. Because the boats are cruising at 35kts they are sailing in a gale all day. Hard work. Hence helmets and goggles. We are looking at sail plans that work without fail in 35kts+. Amazing.
Trek
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23 May 2026 12:36pm
Preliminary regatta for 38th Americas Cup being sailed now in Italy. Fantastic speed and tactics. Countries there, NZx2, Italyx2, Swiss, France, UK.