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9 Jul 2026 7:04pm
DaHammerBDA said..
*wing range subject to board and foil size. I'm guessing you are gonna need +25L on the board and a 1300 foil to get a 3.5m going in 12kts. Regardless, I'm pretty excited about the Orbit, I'm a huge fan of the BRM Paia, and have been somewhat disappointed with S3. I was hoping for a Paia 2.0 from Greg which doesn't look like it will happen. The Orbit looks like it could be the 2.0 version of the Paia, looking forward to reading the reviews.


Subject to foil and board 😀I have the same range on the pocket rocket v2 4,3m . (ok to be honest 12 to 28 knt) .
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6 Jul 2026 12:34pm
Windoc said..
I have the PR2 in 3.6 and 2.4 as well as a 3m and 4.3 PowerPack. LOVE the 3.6 for all of the reasons already described, and it's my favourite wing in the quiver. The 2.4 PR2 feels great too, but not quite as steady and secure as the 3.6 PR2. It is more demanding to fly and gets pretty busy (not unstable, just busy) in the top end of its range, making it a little more physical to fly. The behaviour of the parawing doing quick sine-movements in gusts can be managed, but once it hits its limit, this behaviour gets a little annoying and can rip you off the board suddenly on rare occasions. But this is not at all a deal breaker for me. Still goes upwind great, is fast, and very reactive (sometimes too much so when OP'd). I'd like to see a little more calmness out of the 2.4 PR2 in the upper end due to the bigger gusts you encounter flying such a small para. Packdown is still excellent and I really enjoyed some absolutely epic days in the Eastern Gorge on it recently. I could have been on a 1.9 easily some days.


What is your top end with the 2.4m?
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3 Jul 2026 6:48pm
I have the ARC 68l for 2 weeks. With one set of insert in the center and V strap. I guess is the first batch.
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1 Jul 2026 1:58am
BWalnut said..
Something that has been remarkable to me is that across platforms the commentary in response to this review has been a little mixed on larger sizes. Some people are loving them and others not so much. I did not expect that. Before publishing, I hadn't heard anything but praise for the larger sizes, and thought my 3.6 was great.

I also did some dw/uw laps with a friend this week. He went out on his new 2.4 v2, but ended up going back in to swap it out for his power pack.


What I'm hearing over here in Tarifa is that is that the v2 pulls more and wind range seems to be moved to the lower wind side of the spectrum which I tend to agree with 4.3 m for now.
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30 Jun 2026 1:33am
BWalnut said..
I definitely don't want to discourage any trouble shooting and at the same time I want to clarify something about the video vs my experience. The video was meant to show the sail behavior, it wasn't meant to reflect my personal control inputs. When I was using the 2.4m it was still in the middle of its wind range and I definitely wasn't trying to depower it. In fact, I was trying to stay powered. So, I don't think that my control issues were related to sheeting too far out.


I do really appreciate the honest review, this is extremely helpfull; but I want to explore all options and points of view before taking a decision to change my order. In any case, my experience with the 4.3m is different to what was said here, and I talked the other day with a 3m V2 owner and he as extremely happy with it. So I don't know if we are talking about a manufacturing issue here. In any case thanks for the heads up and advice.
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30 Jun 2026 1:29am
hilly said..
Have ridden the 4.3m PR V2 twice now, gusty crappy conditions. Not much of an upgrade over my Frigates as far as performance, upwind and speed. Main win is the collapse which is way better. A bit more stable in gusts with less flapping but harder to sort out in the water and get back in the air. Ends stick in the water and the lines still tangle more than the Frigate lines. Big win is how comfortable it is in gusts rock solid no flapping. Adding up all the small wins I am very happy. 🎉


I will not agree that the lines tangle more, the frigate lines are horrible, plus the frigate tends to fold tips more in high winds. I guess it depends on the size and how old are the lines, but the stashing experience with the frigate 4,7m was so bad that I went back to BRMs
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29 Jun 2026 1:50am
baldy123 said..
I’ve had two more parawing sessions over the weekend. Took the 4.3m out in the upper end of its wind range. Was gusting 30knots. Wing tips folded over at max wind and felt pretty hard to control. Had the 3.6m Powerpack on my back so swapped in the water. This was much more controllable. Probably due to smaller size more than design. For my weight (85kg) i reckon the 3.6m is the optimum size parawing when correctly powered up. Not too small and twitchy but enough power to lean into it.


Today was lighter around 20knots and the 4.3m felt great. I need to work on harness line placement I think and maybe go to a two point line. I feel the PRv2 wants to ride with more back hand pressure. Not a fan of gybing the PRv2 in light wind. I figured out the stash and redeploy better today and had a lot more success. Just takes more care and effort to stow neatly than my powerpack.


I have the same feeling in terms of back hand pressure, maybe that is part of the problem, back lines are mainly steering, and it looks like in those videos with vertical movement is happening when the bar is fully on depower mode.
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28 Jun 2026 12:50am
I have the 4.3m fors 2 weeks and tested it from 12 to 28knt. Im very happy with it. Never experienced tips folding at all, even in extreme wing in upwind or downwind.
I owned ensis, naish, brm and frigate. This is by far the best of all them.
Im waiting for the 2.4m so I will report when it arrives.
Im not surprised about the vertical movement, my BRM 2.4m kanaha used to do so, I always blamed the short lines for these nervous movement.