And ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr says Stupid.


Not politics. Not religion.

Does go to the core of our social values.

www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-13/doctors-say-heterosexual-marriage-better-for-kids/4008452?WT.svl=news0

There is masses of research from around the world which concludes the same thing.

can 150 doctors be so wrong


is it now a numbers game

poor relative said...

Link me to a credible scientific study that supports that statement and reinforce that point.

Link me to a credible scientific study that opposes that statement and refutes that point.

Haven't gay people seen what a joke marriage is in Australia ,why they want to join the joke is beyond me .my bro asked me if i could make it to his engagement party the other day ,i replied sorry mate but i was at your last one and can't make this one .What a crock the wedding day is ,all that money wasted on silly over the top clothing and a party for all the guests of whom the couple get to spend one minute with if they ae lucky. Anyway it's not my buisiness to stop them (nor is it my business to stop the heteros whom one third will end up in divorce and another third live in misery )

^^^Doesn't say much except there is "no evidence to suggest".

Doesn't matter either because you will never convince me in a million years that a child is not better for being raised by a mother(female) and a father(male).

But that is not politically correct is it, so sic the thought police onto me.

cisco said...

^^^Doesn't say much except there is "no evidence to suggest".

Doesn't matter either because you will never convince me in a million years that a child is not better for being raised by a mother(female) and a father(male).

But that is not politically correct is it, so sic the thought police onto me.

It's mildly amusing that Bigoted people see themselves as somehow "victims" .....of the thought police or Political correctness. But in reality they're the same old, same old. Cisco see's himself as a maverick who won't be silenced, he's not afraid to take on the "establisment" with his radical views......Yawn.

And when you look at the propositions, they're basically just bigotry.

So gay parents are wrong, why..... because they are.... that's all...they just are!

And asylum seekers, and Muslims, and gay marriage, and climate change, and on and on and on. No basis for his conclusion apart from a crappy youtube clip or some other half bakery. Still, he will not be silenced by the powers that be.....yawn

log man said...
No basis for his conclusion apart from a crappy youtube clip or some other half bakery.

mmmMMMmmmmmm,.. Bakery,... slobber slobber,..
That would go really well with my morning coffee....

youtube clip? Did I miss that??

Anyways,.. I don't care what anyone does in the privacy of their own pants, or their best friends pants, but I do object to it being called "marriage".
They can call it whatever they like. Invent a word that sounds even better than marriage.
Gee, marriage doesn't have much gloss on it these days anyway so what's the attraction.
Whatever they call it can have all the same legal status as marriage but to me, the definition of marriage is a long established one over thousands of years and I don't think it should be mangled to comply with some present day trend.

Mr float said...

Haven't gay people seen what a joke marriage is in Australia ,why they want to join the joke is beyond me .my bro asked me if i could make it to his engagement party the other day ,i replied sorry mate but i was at your last one and can't make this one .What a crock the wedding day is ,all that money wasted on silly over the top clothing and a party for all the guests of whom the couple get to spend one minute with if they ae lucky. Anyway it's not my buisiness to stop them (nor is it my business to stop the heteros whom one third will end up in divorce and another third live in misery )

red thumbed by people in the wedding business perhapsAhh the pink dollar such an elusive thing at the moment for the wedding singers ,party planners ,dress makers and the like (but perhaps oh so tantalisingly close )

poor relative said...

doggie said...

A mother and father will give you life skills

LOL same could be said for having gay parents or being a bloke and having a name like sue.

I dont think so.

laceys lane said...


civil unions etc -yes

when a women can get pregnant from a strap on or a bloke can give birth to a child from his ass let me know and i'll be for it, until then, in my view a marriage is between a man and a woman.

i still think a child best interests GENERALLY is to a father and a mother.

Funny LL and I agree

poor relative said...

Link me to a credible scientific study that supports that statement and reinforce that point.

Whilst neither of these is a scientific study, you can easily get to the studies, if, as I very much doubt, you're interested. I have seen a list of a little over 1,000 peer-reviewed published studies on precisely this subject, but am having trouble remembering where it was. I'll keep looking though.

www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/falling-marriage-rates-hurting-children-report-20110905-1jubf.html

www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/children-need-mum-and-dad-for-best-mental-health/story-e6frfhqf-1226132579875

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8064435/Children-in-single-parent-families-worse-behaved.html

www.nationalobserver.net/2002_autumn_108.htm
www.nationalobserver.net/2002_winter_110.htm

Don't forget to check the bibliography for each paper.

cisco i love taking the piss out of homos but seriously all parents need to do is love the child. there are so many terrible abusive parents that surely sexuality isn't an issue. kids arent even aware of sex (shouldnt be) untill a late age anyway. Id take gay parents over an abusive family anyday

myusernam said...

cisco i love taking the piss out of homos but seriously all parents need to do is love the child. there are so many terrible abusive parents that surely sexuality isn't an issue. kids arent even aware of sex (shouldnt be) untill a late age anyway. Id take gay parents over an abusive family anyday

That is skewing the argument a tad.

Abuse and parenting are incompatible concepts.

The overwhelming evidence is that children raised by their biological parents who are in a stable and loving relationship are more likely to become productive and valued members of society than those not raised that way.

Children are less concerned about their parents loving them than they are about their parents loving each other.

Read the links dinsdale put up.

i like these arguments about credibility in this forum.

quoted authors are amateur left wing/right wing crackpot religious nut case agenda conspiracy loons on the opposition's payroll.

it just depends on what or who's side your on