AMA Prez rejects-Sarah Hanson-Young dismisses.

> 10 years ago
Reply
Register to post, see what you've read, and subscribe to topics.
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6160 posts
QLD, 6160 posts
16 May 2012 10:27pm
cisco said...

myusernam said...

cisco i love taking the piss out of homos but seriously all parents need to do is love the child. there are so many terrible abusive parents that surely sexuality isn't an issue. kids arent even aware of sex (shouldnt be) untill a late age anyway. Id take gay parents over an abusive family anyday


That is skewing the argument a tad.

Abuse and parenting are incompatible concepts.

The overwhelming evidence is that children raised by their biological parents who are in a stable and loving relationship are more likely to become productive and valued members of society than those not raised that way.

um der. but the point is there are that many kids that are born into non loving families that i think the sexual preferance of the parents is low on the list of importance. who's worse off, the kid that is raised by an unemployed single mum with a string of druggie no hoper boyfriends or an orphan raised by a successfull, affluent, hard working, caring, benevolent person and their life partner?

im not reading any links because i cant be farked reading any propoganda



cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
17 May 2012 2:01am
No need for the um der

The point here is not about children in abusive households. It may be yours but not mine.

Yes, we all by accident of birth, get born into different parental circumstances, be it abusive parents, single mother, given up for adoption or whatever.

The point of my thread is that a group of 150 Doctors in Australia has come out in support of the concept that "raising children in a family where the parents are a loving heterosexual couple" is the healthiest environment for a child to grow in.

That 150 Doctors would agree on that is a milestone. For two Doctors to come up with the same diagnoses on the one set of symptoms is rare enough but for 150 Doctors to agree on one thing has to be noteworthy to say the least.

The ABC news service thought it was important enough to publish it nationally.

Maybe you had an unhappy childhood myusernam. Let me tell you about mine.

My parents married less than a year before I was born. Don't know how much less but the marriage was in 1949 and I popped out in August 1950.

My father was schizophrenic and my mother an English Rose upon whom he often beat which did not dim her love for him.

From age 6 to 8, I was sent to boarding school in Toowoomba though home was Brisbane. Bit of a tender age for an only child from the city to be going to a school populated mostly by country boys.

Then my father contracted tuberculosis as a result of his war service in New Guinea, had one of his lungs progressively removed a lobe at a time over the next year and as he was recovering he managed to get hold of a scalpel and slash his wrists and died.

Fortunately for me I had the greatest Mum in the world, which I will argue every day of the week and 100 times on Sunday, who was heterosexual and after the appropriate time of mourning found herself another man, whom I love to this day, but who could never take the place of my real father.

Do I wish my real father had not topped himself and was still around today so that I could talk with him though he would be in his 90s???

You better believe it, especially if my Mum was still around too.

Imagine sitting around on a Sunday arvo with a couple of old men or old women and wondering whose dick or fanny you actually came out of. No thanks.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
17 May 2012 8:55am
I'll pick a few choice paragraphs from that article.

The Australian Medical Association (AMA) has distanced itself from a group of prominent doctors who say children are better off when raised by heterosexual parents, rather than same-sex couples.



Doctors for the Family's convener Lachlan Dunjey, a right-to-life campaigner who has run as a Senate candidate for the Christian Democratic Party,


AMA president Steve Hambleton has rejected the claims, saying there is no evidence that children with same-sex parents are any different to those with heterosexual parents.
"There is a growing body of evidence that says there's no difference in their psychological development, their general health, their sexual orientation," he said.
Dr Hambleton says the opinions expressed in the submission do not reflect the views of the wider medical community, saying there are nearly 90,000 doctors in Australia.




Who are Doctors for the Family?
Doctors for the Family was established in November 2011.
Its convenor is Dr Lachlan Dunjey.
Dr Dunjey is a Perth GP and a right-to-life campaigner who has run as a Senate candidate for the Christian Democratic Party in multiple elections.
He was president of Baptist Churches of WA in 1989/90 and set up Medicine With Morality in 2006 to lobby politicians on issues including cloning and euthanasia.



150 Drs in a group of 90,000 whats that in percentage .016% ? Less that half a percent. Hardly a majority
Lachlan Dunley - so the guy is a full on christian pro-lifer. Do you think he may have an agenda?
Do i need to go on..........

I know i'll never convince you on this issue Cisco, but you're just reading what you want to see and not really looking at the facts.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
17 May 2012 12:40pm
dinsdale said...

poor relative said...

Link me to a credible scientific study that supports that statement and reinforce that point.

Whilst neither of these is a scientific study, you can easily get to the studies, if, as I very much doubt, you're interested. I have seen a list of a little over 1,000 peer-reviewed published studies on precisely this subject, but am having trouble remembering where it was. I'll keep looking though.

www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/falling-marriage-rates-hurting-children-report-20110905-1jubf.html

www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/children-need-mum-and-dad-for-best-mental-health/story-e6frfhqf-1226132579875

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8064435/Children-in-single-parent-families-worse-behaved.html





Children in lesbian homes scored higher than kids in straight families on some psychological measures of self-esteem and confidence, did better academically and were less likely to have behavioral problems, such as rule-breaking and aggression.

"We simply expected to find no difference in psychological adjustment between adolescents reared in lesbian families and the normative sample of age-matched controls," says Gartrell. "I was surprised to find that on some measures we found higher levels of [psychological] competency and lower levels of behavioral problems. It wasn't something I anticipated."

www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1994480,00.html#ixzz1v5P3RStq
www.nllfs.org/images/uploads/pdf/nllfs-quality-life-january-2012.pdf

I also think that a child should have both a mother and a father, but if the facts say otherwise I'd have to change my opinion.
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6160 posts
QLD, 6160 posts
17 May 2012 4:25pm
nah good childhood, good parents for the most part. just saying there are plenty of hetro bad parents.

Of course a loving mother and father is best. But I would imagine good gay parents would also be better than average hetro ones.

I dont know how i feel about gay adoption, But you will never stop lesbos having kids. there are plenty of well adjusted hetro kids brought up by gay parents.

I reckon if if your parents aren't complete cants then you've got a head start, no matter what they do in the bedroom.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
17 May 2012 2:54pm
cisco said...


The point of my thread is that a group of 150 Doctors in Australia has come out in support of the concept that "raising children in a family where the parents are a loving heterosexual couple" is the healthiest environment for a child to grow in.



89,850 Drs disagree and have distanced themselves from this group.
Isn't that more significant?
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
17 May 2012 10:30pm
poor relative said...

cisco said...


The point of my thread is that a group of 150 Doctors in Australia has come out in support of the concept that "raising children in a family where the parents are a loving heterosexual couple" is the healthiest environment for a child to grow in.



89,850 Drs disagree and have distanced themselves from this group.
Isn't that more significant?


No. Just means that 89,850 Drs haven't got the guts to openly declare one way or the other for fear of losing customers.

cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
17 May 2012 10:39pm
One has to ask and answer the question:- If children being raised by adoptive parents, single parents and homosexual parents is sooooo correct, why do sooooo many of those children in later years make extreme efforts to connect with their biological parents?????

Seems to me they don't want to:-

"Imagine sitting around on a Sunday arvo with a couple of old men or old women and wondering whose dick or fanny they actually came out of."
Please Register, or first...
Topics Subscribe Reply