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FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
5 Oct 2017 6:15pm
Why is WA not petitioning to get the agency when they have the PERFECT launching environment... instead it looks like SA is getting it, and they sure has hell don't have the environment unless you travel all the way to the border with NT, and even then it would need to be tracked from NSW and NZ. Also CSIRO is sticking is nose right in.

Please explain.

And to thwart the smartarse

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Tonz
Tonz
525 posts
525 posts
5 Oct 2017 4:14pm
Perhaps do a little research about your geography,here is Woomera and its nowhere near NT
ThinkaBowtit
ThinkaBowtit
WA
1134 posts
WA, 1134 posts
5 Oct 2017 5:21pm
WA has SKA, the MRO and the MWA. How much more researching into the cosmos do you need?
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
5 Oct 2017 9:04pm
Tonz said..
Perhaps do a little research about your geography,here is Woomera and its nowhere near NT



Perhaps do some research on launching rockets... here are two clues:
1.- it ain't Woomera... btw last time I was in the area the WHOLE place was under water and we had to turn back.
2.- it is close to the equator with good dry weather.

ThinkaBowtit said..
WA has SKA, the MRO and the MWA. How much more researching into the cosmos do you need?



Exactly, why break the pattern?
jn1
jn1
SA
2764 posts
jn1 jn1
SA, 2764 posts
5 Oct 2017 9:10pm
SF is right. You need to be as close as you can to the equator to take advantage of the gravity savings. Woomera is a **** space port location.

There was talk in the 90's of developing a small space port at Gunn Point near Darwin. It never eventuated.
kk
kk
WA
953 posts
kk kk
WA, 953 posts
5 Oct 2017 7:45pm
I doubt it's about really launching rockets, our pollies don't plan that far ahead.

It will be more about jobs for the boys so need to keep the location close to Melbourne.
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
5 Oct 2017 9:48pm
^ likewise at Cape York.
jn1
jn1
SA
2764 posts
jn1 jn1
SA, 2764 posts
5 Oct 2017 10:23pm
Aboriginal land, don't go there (metaphorically).
Mr Milk
Mr Milk
NSW
3139 posts
NSW, 3139 posts
5 Oct 2017 11:19pm
Space agencies are for rockets. Rockets are for warfare. SA is the furthest part of Oz from any enemies, so it's the logical place to keep defensive assets safe.
Jolene
Jolene
WA
1624 posts
WA, 1624 posts
6 Oct 2017 9:33am
Mr Milk said..
Space agencies are for rockets. Rockets are for warfare. SA is the furthest part of Oz from any enemies, so it's the logical place to keep defensive assets safe.



It was decided back in the late 50s 60s that the Woomera range was not ideal for orbital space shots. Some fantastic infrastructure was built for the ELDO(European Launcher Development Organization) on the range but was abandoned, some without ever being used.
ASRI (Australian space research institute) a civilian organization,use to launch sounding rockets etc out at Woomera ,but It had become too hard to use the test facility in recent times. ASRI mostly used the 5" Zuni rocket motors that where gifted from the government and already certified for use on the Woomera test facility (WTF). Civilians trying to get certification for rockets and motors for use on the range is near impossible,,, The more recent HYshot SCRAM-jet program was an example of a project that left town because of range fees and hoops. Woomera is a place where they just don't want civilians other than those who are contracted by the ADF eg; BAE systems.

Lately the hobby rocket scene has become very active. Through the hard work of a few guys around Australia, large rocket motors have been able to be imported and flown in Australia. Good relations with Air-services Australia has provided them some pretty impressive ceiling heights and this is sparking interest in the space interested groups that are looking for recoverable sounding rockets or launch vehicles. Private property for launching is the key, you basically only have the hoops of the land owner to jump through and not those of the government bureaucrats to set up a range. I have heard talk of a new sounding rocket range on the cards in the NT that will basically replace Woomera for the civilians and offer more to University and ASRI types groups.

Oh yeah, If you want to launch a rocket into space (100kms alt) from Australia or if you are an Australian citizen and you take your project else where,,, you need to pay close to a cool $100,000 fee to the Government before you light it up.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
9 Oct 2017 5:11pm


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evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
9 Oct 2017 5:14pm
Christmas Island is a good launch pad. Can float equipment there. Might need a better wharf.
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