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petermac33
petermac33
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29 Aug 2011 3:14am
Found my cat dead today outside on grass verge.

Very affectionate,it was the only kitten of litter of five that had escaped the cat haven's cage traps that had been set at our unit block few months earlier.

It did not come home for dinner couple of days ago,suspected then something was amiss.

Put bin out this morning and cat was not lying dead on verge.

I left house at nearly 4pm, saw it lying on grass verge.

I am thinking my neighbour who had threatened to kill it few months back,has killed it two days ago and dumped it on grass verge this afternoon.

It's body was stiff.

What is the mindset of cat-killers?

upwind
upwind
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29 Aug 2011 8:43am
pretty cowardly . I have a problem with a neighbours cat, it seems to prefer my garden for its own toilet, but would I not kill the thing.
wheelnut
wheelnut
WA
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WA, 90 posts
29 Aug 2011 7:11am
petermac33 said...

What is the mindset of cat-killers?



Firstly I have NEVER harmed animals or have the mindset to do so.
BUT what was the cat doing out of the yard in the first place?, local councils have very strict regulations pertaining to cats.
One of my neighbours has 6 cats that wander the neighbourhood, defecating and spraying everywhere, especially on our young children's toys and play equipment, the cat owners think its OK to enter peoples back yards to get their pets back, and we are sick of it. Jumping fences and rummaging through the stuff in the yard.
We have previously expressed our displeasure for their actions, we now call the police and regard them as trespassers and intruders.

So what is in the mindset of cat owners that let their animals out?


Sailhack
Sailhack
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29 Aug 2011 9:23am
We found raw meat (chicken neck, chop, cuts of steak) in our yard over a few occasions a few months ago. We've got a jack russell that barks when someone comes down the drive, but otherwise happy to sit & wander around the yard. There is a yappy dog over our back fence, maybe that one was the target?

The fact that it won't touch the meat tells me that it might be baited...haven't done anything about it, as it's been a couple of months. I lost a dog when I was a kid to a baited bit of meat, dad was furious & the neighbour was very lucky mum talked him out of 'paying them a visit'!

I hope your cat wasn't intentionally killed, maybe it was hit by a car, and someone that knew it was yours, but was too ashamed or sensitive to confront you found it & left it there? Maybe not a sinister act? I hope not anyway.
wodgina6722
wodgina6722
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29 Aug 2011 7:34am
It's very frustrating having cats pooing and pissing in your garden on your car.

I find pet owners to be oblivious to the bother caused by their animals. I recently complained to a neighbour about their animal pissing on my front doormat. This had been going on for years! He basically blamed me for the dog pissing (he called it leaving a scent!) because I leave a bin bag out the front while cleaning my house. This is when I realised animal lovers are nuts. He and his partner work 10-12 hour days and the dogs are left by themselves in a tiny garden all week. The even go on holidays and leave the animals behind.

I don't agree with killing animals but I understand the frustration when your trying to sleep and the neighbours cats are fighting.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
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29 Aug 2011 10:01am
petermac33 said...

Found my cat dead today outside on grass verge.


pierrec45
pierrec45
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29 Aug 2011 10:21am
I'm of 2 minds.
I don't like cats, and I think a good use for a cat is to make cat food.

However I'd never kill or even hurt one.
However (again), they're often in my backyard and they and their owners are a pain in the arse.

I even have one neighbour that angers at me when I chase his cat away when he scratches the door screen.
Charming effing people.
log man
log man
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29 Aug 2011 10:39am
Sorry to hear that Peter, very sad.
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
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29 Aug 2011 10:27am
Sorry to ear that Peter! I know how frustrating it is as it happened to me few years ago. I have a few cats myself, all came to live with me as they have been dumped (2 from the house at the back, they moved and left the cats there) 1 kitten came from the bush across the road (probably dumped) and the 2 I took from the cat haven long time ago! My neighbours are ok with it as they have cats as well, I keep them inside at night time and the 3 older never leave the backyard.
Gizmo
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29 Aug 2011 12:22pm
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FlySurfer
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29 Aug 2011 1:38pm
petermac33 said...

Found my cat dead today outside on grass verge.

Very affectionate,it was the only kitten of litter of five that had escaped the cat haven's cage traps that had been set at our unit block few months earlier.

It did not come home for dinner couple of days ago,suspected then something was amiss.

Put bin out this morning and cat was not lying dead on verge.

I left house at nearly 4pm, saw it lying on grass verge.

I am thinking my neighbour who had threatened to kill it few months back,has killed it two days ago and dumped it on grass verge this afternoon.

It's body was stiff.

What is the mindset of cat-killers?


My deepest condolences.
Ados
Ados
WA
421 posts
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29 Aug 2011 12:13pm
Firstly, sorry to hear about your cat.

But I would have to agree that some cat owners are selfish as can be. the lady two doors up has a cat which regularly craps in my son's sand pit if I forget to cover it up. I have asked this lady, nicely, to please contain her cat as its presence in our backyard is unwelcome. She has failed to do so.
I would never harm the cat but I just cant understand why some cat owners think that they are exempt from common council regulations.

Rant over.
busterwa
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29 Aug 2011 1:49pm
Dont be to disappointed Think of the benefits.
Owned cats have huge advantages over native predators. They
receive protection from disease, predation, competition, and
starvation—
Cats Are Not a Natural Part of Ecosystems

Roughly 60% to 70%
of the wildlife cats kill are small mammals; 20% to 30% are
birds; and up to 10 are amphibians, reptiles, and insects.
However, birds can be up to 100% of a cat's prey

In a study of cat predation in an urban area, 83% of
the 41 study cats killed birds


Ados
Ados
WA
421 posts
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29 Aug 2011 2:46pm
This is a sad story.:

"In 1894, ornithologists came to know of the existence of a small flightless bird on Stephens Island in New Zealand.
It was named Stephens Island Wren. The bird was only 10 cm long and was never seen to fly. It would scurry like a mouse on the ground.
There was a lighthouse there and the lighthouse keeper had a cat named Tibbles.
Tibbles found the birds easy prey. In the space of a few months, it killed all the birds on the mile-long island, making the Stephens Island Wren extinct in the very year that it was discovered.
If it were alive it would have been the world's smallest flightless bird. Now that distinction goes to the Inaccessible Island Rail which is about the size of a newly-hatched domestic chicken."
felixdcat
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WA
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29 Aug 2011 3:06pm
busterwa said...

Dont be to disappointed Think of the benefits.
Owned cats have huge advantages over native predators. They
receive protection from disease, predation, competition, and
starvation—
Cats Are Not a Natural Part of Ecosystems

Roughly 60% to 70%
of the wildlife cats kill are small mammals; 20% to 30% are
birds; and up to 10 are amphibians, reptiles, and insects.
However, birds can be up to 100% of a cat's prey

In a study of cat predation in an urban area, 83% of
the 41 study cats killed birds





Agree with you my cats kill the odd bird, I am trying my best to stop them... collar bells kept insight at nite time etc.. but in another hand they kill a lot of rodents and even rabbits that are easier preys. The biggest native bird killers in OZ are the farmers. Using pesticide on the crops they poison hundred of birds, lead mining is bad as well (thousand of birds killed in the Albany area). Yes ok cats are not producing any Dollars![}:)]
cwamit
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WA
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29 Aug 2011 7:17pm
felixdcat said...

busterwa said...

Dont be to disappointed Think of the benefits.
Owned cats have huge advantages over native predators. They
receive protection from disease, predation, competition, and
starvation—
Cats Are Not a Natural Part of Ecosystems

Roughly 60% to 70%
of the wildlife cats kill are small mammals; 20% to 30% are
birds; and up to 10 are amphibians, reptiles, and insects.
However, birds can be up to 100% of a cat's prey

In a study of cat predation in an urban area, 83% of
the 41 study cats killed birds





Agree with you my cats kill the odd bird, I am trying my best to stop them... collar bells kept insight at nite time etc.. but in another hand they kill a lot of rodents and even rabbits that are easier preys. The biggest native bird killers in OZ are the farmers. Using pesticide on the crops they poison hundred of birds, lead mining is bad as well (thousand of birds killed in the Albany area). Yes ok cats are not producing any Dollars![}:)]


correction - biggest native bird killers are vegans, farmers are just the delivery mechanism.

it wasnt albany area - twas esperance and thats about 600 k's away. wasnt from direct contact with lead but secondary contact through polination.

sorry to hear about your cat peter, a loss of any species of pet is an awefull experiance be that pet goat, cat. dog, bird, cow , rabit or a pet pig - i have owned all as pets untill they started looking like walking T bone steaks
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15101 posts
WA, 15101 posts
29 Aug 2011 7:30pm
Yeah Peter, sorry to hear about this. I hope it was only something innocent and not someone with a problem.

I would hate it if anyone did anything to my pets.
ka43
ka43
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30 Aug 2011 10:00am
One way to stop cats coming into your yard to attack other cats or spraying everywhere is get a plastic spray bottle (we have one that goes about 10-12 feet), fill it it with half water and half vinegar. leave it outside or handy to reach.
When you spot the offender give it a couple of shots. They take off quick smart. Then being cats they clean themselves and the taste of vinegar makes them dislike getting sprayed.
this is from a vet so is safe. Doesnt take long to work either.
Then every couple of days give the fence line or whatever the cat uses to enter your property a spray and hey presto, force field for Tiddles!!!
Sorry about your cat Peter.
oceanfire
oceanfire
WA
718 posts
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30 Aug 2011 8:41am
ka43 said...

One way to stop cats coming into your yard to attack other cats or spraying everywhere is get a plastic spray bottle (we have one that goes about 10-12 feet), fill it it with half water and half vinegar. leave it outside or handy to reach.
When you spot the offender give it a couple of shots. They take off quick smart. Then being cats they clean themselves and the taste of vinegar makes them dislike getting sprayed.
this is from a vet so is safe. Doesnt take long to work either.
Then every couple of days give the fence line or whatever the cat uses to enter your property a spray and hey presto, force field for Tiddles!!!
Sorry about your cat Peter.


I'm gonna call shennanigans on this one.
Sounds like an old wives tale to me; how the heck do you get close enough to spray the offending cat?
They take off like a rocket when you see them in your yard, unless you've been friendly to them previously which means you've encouraged them coming ino your yard, so unless you're as fast as the Flash, you ain't gonna spray one.

Damn I had a good laugh this morning when I went to work; there's been a grey cat lately spraying our front door, and it bloody stinks, so this morning I'm reversing out the driveway and I see the offending cat walking back home from wherever he's been, he has to cross our yard to get home.
So I'm half out of the driveway, I stop, he stops, and we look at each other for a few seconds, both of us working out our game plans.

He thinks he can make it past me and I know if I get out of the car to chase him, he will, so I put the car in drive and put my foot down, heading him off at the pass so to speak.

He craps it and turns tail, but I'm still in between him and his destination/safe place.
As he tries to run around behind the car I floor it and swing the car around and chase that little bastard down the street, man can that cat run!
I chase him down the street for maybe 10-15m till he decides to veer off the road and onto the opposite verge, but keeps running further for good measure.

Laughing like a maniac I decide I've had my funnest morning for ages and watch him sitting there looking at me as I drive off, I can imagine him thinking 'WTF just happened??'

I'd never have the heart to run him over, but damn it was so good to scare the crap out of him like that


Disclaimer- I have/had two cats, lost one to cancer, both fixed females rescued from the cat haven, docile and never leave the yard; but I'm damn sick of the unfixed male cats coming into our yard, eating our cat's food and beating up on them and spraying everything.


Condolences on the loss of your pet pertermac33, I've also found one of our previous cats dead on the door step in years past.


I'll share the mother of all cat stories later on; better get some work done first
cisco
cisco
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30 Aug 2011 11:58am
This one has been on the forum before but it is worth another post.

pweedas
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30 Aug 2011 12:28pm
cisco said...

This one has been on the forum before but it is worth another post.




Yes it has. In fact less than a day ago. And on this very same thread!!!!

Now get with the program Cisco and PAY ATTENTION!!!!! (I'm not sure how much that might be in australian money but pay it anyway.)
cisco
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30 Aug 2011 10:34pm
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