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hilly
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21 Sep 2026 5:48pm
Which is the best 2IC? Albos right hand man v Paulines pit bull.
jn1
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21 Sep 2026 8:49pm
You mean Beet Root ?. The guy that banged his staffer in 2017, got her up the duff, and threw away his marriage ?. I'm surprised that guy's political career survived. I was hoping that was the last I would see of him. Mind you that is AU politics for you. I've no idea about Chambers.
Carantoc
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21 Sep 2026 8:20pm
Interesting notion hilly.

If it is about specifically the best 2IC, as opposed to the biggest F*&^wit in general, then I'd suggest that :

Chalmers brings the average of the rest of his team down
Bar-joy lifts the average of his team up

But I am not sure if it should be easy to be 2IC in either group given the very low bar set by the rest of the team, or if it would it be very hard given the low bar set by the rest of the team.

So I don't think raising or lowering the average of the rest of the team is much of an indicator as to either's ability or lack of it.
hilly
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22 Sep 2026 12:59pm
I was thinking along the lines of Albo or Pauline having a health issue and the 2IC is promoted to the main gig. Thoughts?
myscreenname
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22 Sep 2026 5:04pm
hilly said..
Which is the best 2IC? Albos right hand man v Paulines pit bull.


Wouldn't it depend on what political qualities you value?

The two different styles operate under entirely on different political structures.

if you value formal governance, international diplomacy, stability, and the ability to run a federal apparatus:

Albo

if you prefer a disruptive, aggressive political warfare:

Hanson

Easy Peasy
Carantoc
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22 Sep 2026 5:08pm
Argh I see.

But I don't think Chalmers is deputy PM, isn't that Richard Marles / defense minister. And I believe Penny Wong is ALP leader in the Senate and would be 3IC.

Although I'd bet the real 2IC of the ALP is some shadowy figure working in the background that no-one but a select few even know exists. They will also be a militant unionist.


Barnaby would be a very entertaining PM. Well, unless you are an actual Aussie at which point I don't think it would be much fun at all.

I have no idea why Tanya P isn't deputy PM. Not saying I'd rate her ability in any single aspect, but for an all-round step-in when Albo is off getting an award from the UN for being a top bloke on the word stage I'd probably rate her ability to do nothing except hold it together higher than Dr Chalmers' ability to react to whatever the Guardian financial column is saying that morning and f*&^ing it all up .


Although maybe any of these should be top choice :

PARLIAMENTARY FRIENDS OF SURFING
It is intended that this Group will provide a non-partisan forum for parliamentarians to meet and interact with surfing icons and industry leaders on matters relating to surfing.
Contact Persons:
Ms Libby Coker MP
Hon Nola Marino MP
Senator Peter Whish-Wilson
(Co-Chairs)

www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Friendship/Previous_Parliament_Friendship_Groups


Carantoc
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22 Sep 2026 5:10pm
myscreenname said..
if you value formal governance, international diplomacy, stability, and the ability to run a massive federal apparatus debt:
Albo


Hey MSN,

I notice you had a minor typo there, I corrected it for you. No worries, easy to make.
hilly
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22 Sep 2026 7:00pm
Carantoc said..
Argh I see.

But I don't think Chalmers is deputy PM, isn't that Richard Marles / defense minister. And I believe Penny Wong is ALP leader in the Senate and would be 3IC.

Although I'd bet the real 2IC of the ALP is some shadowy figure working in the background that no-one but a select few even know exists. They will also be a militant unionist.


Barnaby would be a very entertaining PM. Well, unless you are an actual Aussie at which point I don't think it would be much fun at all.

I have no idea why Tanya P isn't deputy PM. Not saying I'd rate her ability in any single aspect, but for an all-round step-in when Albo is off getting an award from the UN for being a top bloke on the word stage I'd probably rate her ability to do nothing except hold it together higher than Dr Chalmers' ability to react to whatever the Guardian financial column is saying that morning and f*&^ing it all up .


Although maybe any of these should be top choice :

PARLIAMENTARY FRIENDS OF SURFING
It is intended that this Group will provide a non-partisan forum for parliamentarians to meet and interact with surfing icons and industry leaders on matters relating to surfing.
Contact Persons:
Ms Libby Coker MP
Hon Nola Marino MP
Senator Peter Whish-Wilson
(Co-Chairs)

www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Friendship/Previous_Parliament_Friendship_Groups




Can you explain this - n Dr Chalmers' ability to react to whatever the Guardian financial column is saying that morning and f*&^ing it all up .

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jn1
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22 Sep 2026 9:39pm
hilly said..

Carantoc said..
Argh I see.

But I don't think Chalmers is deputy PM, isn't that Richard Marles / defense minister. And I believe Penny Wong is ALP leader in the Senate and would be 3IC.

Although I'd bet the real 2IC of the ALP is some shadowy figure working in the background that no-one but a select few even know exists. They will also be a militant unionist.


Barnaby would be a very entertaining PM. Well, unless you are an actual Aussie at which point I don't think it would be much fun at all.

I have no idea why Tanya P isn't deputy PM. Not saying I'd rate her ability in any single aspect, but for an all-round step-in when Albo is off getting an award from the UN for being a top bloke on the word stage I'd probably rate her ability to do nothing except hold it together higher than Dr Chalmers' ability to react to whatever the Guardian financial column is saying that morning and f*&^ing it all up .


Although maybe any of these should be top choice :

PARLIAMENTARY FRIENDS OF SURFING
It is intended that this Group will provide a non-partisan forum for parliamentarians to meet and interact with surfing icons and industry leaders on matters relating to surfing.
Contact Persons:
Ms Libby Coker MP
Hon Nola Marino MP
Senator Peter Whish-Wilson
(Co-Chairs)

www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Friendship/Previous_Parliament_Friendship_Groups





Can you explain this - n Dr Chalmers' ability to react to whatever the Guardian financial column is saying that morning and f*&^ing it all up .

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I've stopped reading the news now. I'm sick of reading every 2nd article about how AI is going to turn the universe into a paperclip factory, or AUKUS. I read this now. Not many article though. I suppose not much good news ?

www.abc.net.au/news/good-news

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