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Does Apathy Rule The Climate Debate - OZ reality

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Created by AquaPlow Friday, 11 Oct 2019
AquaPlow
QLD, 754 posts
Friday , 11 Oct 2019 12:42PM
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JIC you have not heard.
It is from Federal Canberra - let us know what you think poll...

With an October 16th deadline ...
www.aph.gov.au/petition_sign?id=EN1041
The numbers are indicative of a minority - a small minority..
(310740 and counting)

Apathy -- well - it is not a run-away success.. Tick Tick Tick...

Cheers
AP

nebbian
WA, 6191 posts
Friday , 11 Oct 2019 12:09PM
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AquaPlow said..

Apathy -- well - it is not a run-away success.. Tick Tick Tick...


Well, it does hold the record for the most number of signatures of any e-petition (three times the next highest) so there is that.

Shifu
QLD, 1278 posts
Friday , 11 Oct 2019 2:19PM
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Signed. Though of course Coalmo and his gang of dumbarses will ignore it.

TonyAbbott
257 posts
Friday , 11 Oct 2019 12:31PM
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The opposing petition has over 20 million signatures

roodney
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Friday , 11 Oct 2019 2:03PM
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TonyAbbott said..
The opposing petition has over 20 million signatures


Dosnt make it right

bjw
NSW, 3021 posts
Friday , 11 Oct 2019 6:48PM
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Apathy is signing a petition then driving a big fossel fuels car.

Ian K
WA, 2958 posts
Friday , 11 Oct 2019 4:54PM
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bjw said..
Apathy is signing a petition then driving a big fossel fuels car.


Yes the car we drive broadcasts our environmental sensitivities to all who see us drive by.

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-11/australians-car-not-actually-using-less-fuel-research-shows/11594666

Diesels are more efficient of course but we negate any advantages by "needing" vehicles 40% heavier.

Fleet average is worse that the infamous Yank Tanks.




Paradox
QLD, 752 posts
Friday , 11 Oct 2019 7:14PM
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Petition Reason
The overwhelming majority of climate scientists around the world have concluded that the climate is changing at unprecedented rates due to anthropogenic causes. The result of these changes will be catastrophic for future generations, and so we must act now to minimise both human and environmental destruction.

Completely inaccurate statement. You will get very low percentage of scientists/experts that agree with that statement. Pretty much par for the course for the alarmists though.

Harrow
NSW, 2774 posts
Saturday , 12 Oct 2019 4:47PM
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Ian K said..
Fleet average is worse that the infamous Yank Tanks.



Spend some time in traffic in the USA, and you quickly become aware just how many of them drive compact cars.

log man
VIC, 7183 posts
Saturday , 12 Oct 2019 5:38PM
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Paradox said..
Petition Reason
The overwhelming majority of climate scientists around the world have concluded that the climate is changing at unprecedented rates due to anthropogenic causes. The result of these changes will be catastrophic for future generations, and so we must act now to minimise both human and environmental destruction.

Completely inaccurate statement. You will get very low percentage of scientists/experts that agree with that statement. Pretty much par for the course for the alarmists though.


Nah, how?

Paradox
QLD, 752 posts
Yesterday , 14 Oct 2019 2:51PM
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log man said..

Nah, how?


Nah, how - what? how is the statement wrong?

"The overwhelming majority of climate scientists around the world have concluded that the climate is changing at unprecedented rates due to anthropogenic causes. The result of these changes will be catastrophic for future generations"

This statement is incorrect. Plain wrong and highly misleading by taking a small truth and turning it into a statement that says something else.

hilly
WA, 4840 posts
Yesterday , 14 Oct 2019 1:35PM
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There is more to it than just apathy.

It takes a lot to defy common sense on a global scale, all to benefit one industry. But for decades, fossil fuel interests have done just that, running a sophisticated and sprawling network of well-funded think tanks and front groups with one goal: Stop any real climate action, no matter the cost to billions.

www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/climate-denial-machine-how-fossil-fuel-industry-blocks-climate-action

Foghorn
WA, 299 posts
Yesterday , 14 Oct 2019 2:13PM
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www.fool.com/investing/2018/06/04/big-oil-is-investing-billions-in-renewable-energy.aspx
They might even save you .Until then put a trailer on your pushbike and ride to the beach.

Foghorn
WA, 299 posts
Yesterday , 14 Oct 2019 3:55PM
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hilly said..
There is more to it than just apathy.

It takes a lot to defy common sense on a global scale, all to benefit one industry. But for decades, fossil fuel interests have done just that, running a sophisticated and sprawling network of well-funded think tanks and front groups with one goal: Stop any real climate action, no matter the cost to billions.

www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/climate-denial-machine-how-fossil-fuel-industry-blocks-climate-action


Wouldn't listen to much from a far left activist group either.

log man
VIC, 7183 posts
Yesterday , 14 Oct 2019 7:00PM
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Paradox said..



log man said..


Nah, how?



Nah, how - what? how is the statement wrong?

"The overwhelming majority of climate scientists around the world have concluded that the climate is changing at unprecedented rates due to anthropogenic causes. The result of these changes will be catastrophic for future generations"

This statement is incorrect. Plain wrong and highly misleading by taking a small truth and turning it into a statement that says something else.


Could you explain how. I've read it through a couple of times thinking, maybe I've missed some little nuance or something, but I'm thinking of the IPCC reports and that seems to be they're take on it.

log man
VIC, 7183 posts
Yesterday , 14 Oct 2019 7:03PM
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Foghorn said..

hilly said..
There is more to it than just apathy.

It takes a lot to defy common sense on a global scale, all to benefit one industry. But for decades, fossil fuel interests have done just that, running a sophisticated and sprawling network of well-funded think tanks and front groups with one goal: Stop any real climate action, no matter the cost to billions.

www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/climate-denial-machine-how-fossil-fuel-industry-blocks-climate-action



Wouldn't listen to much from a far left activist group either.


But that's your problem though. You can't separate the politics from the science. Sure sometimes they overlap but even Margaret Thatcher saw the writing on the wall

Foghorn
WA, 299 posts
Yesterday , 14 Oct 2019 5:24PM
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Are you donating to them ?

hilly
WA, 4840 posts
6 hours ago , 14 Oct 2019 7:21PM
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Foghorn said..
Are you donating to them ?


ha ha you guys are so paranoid.
Just posted that to illustrate there are 2 sides to all arguments. Especially when money is involved.
The truth is somewhere in between.
But it would be nice to leave the planet in good shape for my kids and their kids. Have a great night



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