How dumb is this bitch?? She reckons if your motor vehicle is pre 1995, it is a "Klunker"!!!! and has to be taken off the road.

She has a fixation on the number 2.

She says there are 200,000 cars that need to be taken off the road at a cost of $2,000 each and that will reduce our carbon emissions by 200 or 2000 or 2 something tons per annum.

This is obviously some figure she has plucked out of the air in her menopausal head.

So if she gets in the taxpayer, (you and me) is going to buy the worst 200,000 cars in the country for $2,000 a piece.

$40,000,000?? What is that?? Oh it is only 40% of what we borrow weekly, or is it daily. Just a triffle in comparison with the big picture.

Labor!! If you have got nothing, they will give you everything. If you have got something they will take it from you.

Labor will ensure you labour till the day you die!!!

Cisco, you need to get over the fact the PM is a woman. Apart from that, do you think she solely is the one that makes these decisions and not the rest of the party?

Anyhow, despite your rant, someone in the media pointed out that the people in a position to buy a Prius or similar car very rarely have a car that's that old.

It's politics, every party gets the chance to make policy announcements that are either crazy or just unbelievable in the bid to win a vote. Welcome.

i likes the school heaters proposal .. 51,00 heaters to replace so they trhrow 450million at the problem .. works out at 9grand perheater .. give me the nine grand and ill install it thanks

Mobydisc, what greenhouse gas do we make by producing cars here ???

Do we still do that , or are all the gasses produced, are by overseas producers,

With the coal we sell them. I would vote for leaving the coal in the ground

Slightly off topic - I watched a training vid of a new commode (VE) crash test @100km/h this week...the front completely crumpled but not a piece of glass broke and the passenger compartment was basically unaffected apart from the doors jamming. Secondly was a 20yr old car & it was obliterated - no chance of survival for the passengers.

I'm pretty sure the emissions of manufacturing a new car would be higher than that produced by the every day running of an older car...it would make more sense for her to aim the legislation at the safety side of things.

The title of this topic is entirely misleading

It is an XE as in XEllent with the Australian Design Award for the Watts Link Rear Suspension which has been incorporated in the build rules for the V8 Super Cars.

It is a Fairmont too if you don't mind.

There have been no significant improvements in automobile design since 1984 and mostly, the longevtiy of motor vehicles has gone down since then. Many later model vehicles are not even repairable.

The piston engine was the first I.C.E. invented and as such the technology is 150 years old. Why would you put a computer on top of it??

For those that believe the myth of global warming/climate change is fact, a comparison should be made of the "carbon footprint" resulting from the manufacture of new motor vehicles at the frenetic rate it is today, with the "carbon footprint" that would result from repowering existing vehicles with truly environmentally friendly technology.

The oil companies would never allow it but that is what should be happening.

Further, if the authorities were serious about pollution and road safety, they would ban the production of these ridiculously powerful "hot rods" that are so prevalent today. Off road intended four wheel drive vehicles should be banned from use on sealed roads too.

Those concepts are going to get some people "squawking".

Talking of squawking, I had no doubts that the mere mention of the P.M. being a bitch would bring out accusations of sexism from the political correcties and R.Ts. Reel 'em in spinner.

Oh!!! and rangas!!! I love them. Only ever had the good fortune to bed one of them but got close with a couple of others. My favourite celebrity one is Ann Margaret.

Sailhack and Dawn Patrol seem to be on the right track but japie and cwamit have dirty minds.

Re:- "But, could i buy, say 50, $1000 cars now and then if this comes into play, sell them all for $2000 to the government?"

I think you could buy 1,000 of them for $50. Better numbers there.

We can't blame it all on the ranga though. It is typical Labor. Ill conceived band aid policies done on the run, blow the dough. There are still plenty of milkers out there.

But the real bogey man in the bushes is Hill Billy Bob Brown. If he gets the balance of power you can forget about any sort of prosperity for the next decade.

You watched cash for clunkers in america, sad but again no ones putting any gun to anyones head overthere either. Mate if you happy driving your piece of crap, good luck to you. I owned a worked xe s pack lsd, and it was a fast comfortable car 15 years ago, classic, I doubt it.

FlySurfer said...

it's an OK idea if they buy < 1600cc Australian made cars.

And Cisco u really screwed up on the title it's missing a 0.

Oh and this is hardly original... the US/Japan/most of Europe have done it > once.

Its not original. Clearly the main reason why overseas countries run such schemes or have financial disincentives to keep an older car is to support their automotive industry. As the Australian car industry only makes big cars, with only Toyota making a hybrid Camry, this scheme will only promote the sale of imported cars which does little to help the Australian economy.

I think it would be better if the rebate was available if you bought an Australian built car that runs on LPG. Doing this would encourage the companies making cars in Australia to run on a fuel that Australia has heaps of. We could reduce the need to sell LPG to the Chinese for 1 cent a litre and sell it here for more. We wouldn't have to import as much petrol, which Australia imports a fair bit of and it would get more jobs in Australia.

With the amount of greenhouse gasses created by manufacturing a new car, it must be a fair bit. All the raw materials collected then refine, processed, shaped, moulded, heated and screwed together. Then the car sent across the world. It should be environmentally friendlier to keep the old car going. In regards to safety, yes new cars are safer but if you have a head on with a semi, a thousand star rating isn't going to help you.

cisco said...

It is an XE as in XEllent with the Australian Design Award for the Watts Link Rear Suspension which has been incorporated in the build rules for the V8 Super Cars.

It is a Fairmont too if you don't mind.

There have been no significant improvements in automobile design since 1984 and mostly, the longevtiy of motor vehicles has gone down since then. Many later model vehicles are not even repairable.

The piston engine was the first I.C.E. invented and as such the technology is 150 years old. Why would you put a computer on top of it??

For those that believe the myth of global warming/climate change is fact, a comparison should be made of the "carbon footprint" resulting from the manufacture of new motor vehicles at the frenetic rate it is today, with the "carbon footprint" that would result from repowering existing vehicles with truly environmentally friendly technology.

The oil companies would never allow it but that is what should be happening.

Further, if the authorities were serious about pollution and road safety, they would ban the production of these ridiculously powerful "hot rods" that are so prevalent today. Off road intended four wheel drive vehicles should be banned from use on sealed roads too.

Those concepts are going to get some people "squawking".

Talking of squawking, I had no doubts that the mere mention of the P.M. being a bitch would bring out accusations of sexism from the political correcties and R.Ts. Reel 'em in spinner.

Oh!!! and rangas!!! I love them. Only ever had the good fortune to bed one of them but got close with a couple of others. My favourite celebrity one is Ann Margaret.

I have been following developments on the Venus project. Jacques Fresco is a 94 year old social designer who has an answer for our current predicament. For those who do not know him he advocates the transition to a resource based society where the globes resources are recognised as being the inheritance of all the worlds people.

He describes society when we become civilised. The first interview on this link is quite compelling.

http://www.thevenusproject.com/get-involved/video-library

FlySurfer said...

it's an OK idea if they buy < 1600cc Australian made cars.

I don't think any of those beasts exist.

And Cisco u really screwed up on the title it's missing a 0.

Sorry, that was just my Labor alter ego coming out. ie "We missed a zero did we. Oh well it is nothing really."

Oh and this is hardly original... the US/Japan/most of Europe have done it > once.

Mobydisc said...
Its not original. Clearly the main reason why overseas countries run such schemes or have financial disincentives to keep an older car is to support their automotive industry. As the Australian car industry only makes big cars, with only Toyota making a hybrid Camry, this scheme will only promote the sale of imported cars which does little to help the Australian economy.

I think it would be better if the rebate was available if you bought an Australian built car that runs on LPG. Doing this would encourage the companies making cars in Australia to run on a fuel that Australia has heaps of. We could reduce the need to sell LPG to the Chinese for 1 cent a litre and sell it here for more. We wouldn't have to import as much petrol, which Australia imports a fair bit of and it would get more jobs in Australia.

Do you see guys? 5 minutes think time in a kitesurfing/windsurfing forum and we come up with better ideas... do we really need the parasites?

It is less about the state of most cars and more about the state of the driver's skillz. Spend the $$ on re-testing all drivers every 10 yrs.

And get over that the PM is a sheila. No-one seemed to mind when we had a Gollam for a decade so whassprob?

Is that the old gillard or the new real gillard that is going to do this ?or was this just a adviser,s idea that the real juilia wont go along with now ?
How stupid does this crafty cow think the bulk of the voter.s are.
Little johnny was a dream compared to this back stabbing red rattler.
and theres no way shes getting my 92mod **** banger for a depsit on a 30000 bucket of bolts.

We know we dont need the parasites. But who here would we vote for for head honcho?
New topic maybe , any takers?

That virgin bloke Branson, or Dick Smith???