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Global climate strike day

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Created by decrepit 1 month ago, 6 Sep 2019
decrepit
WA, 9520 posts
6 Sep 2019 3:38PM
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www.schoolstrike4climate.com/sept20

Wow that's a very long url, but I've been there, I'm sure it's legit.

Imax1
VIC, 2253 posts
6 Sep 2019 7:10PM
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I was listening to a science lady on the radio the other day and sadly she said we haven't got much time on earth.
We are an extreamly fast expanding animal. We have already over saturated earth . It won't stop until we kill ourselves .
None of us care enough to make enough change for us to have a chance .
But if your an earth lover , all is not lost . No matter how much we farrrk it up , earth will re grow and not even know we were here . It's got time .
I believe her , I give it 1000 years tops .

warwickl
NSW, 1250 posts
6 Sep 2019 7:28PM
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My opinion which counts for nothing:
We had the ice age, earth is moving on its axis, earth is still very unstable.
So what impact do humans make?
Well - cities increase health risks, over population so resource depletion proportionally.
To me humans create health and resource issues on an increasing scale with population growth.
However nature will make humans impact minor compared with the major changes that nature/earth history of proven change over time will iniveratibly do.
Looking forward to a good surf tomorrow .

Harrow
NSW, 2774 posts
6 Sep 2019 7:44PM
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decrepit said..Wow that's a very long url, but I've been there, I'm sure it's legit.

Yep, my kids are talking about it.

Foghorn
WA, 304 posts
6 Sep 2019 6:19PM
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Well i hope they all stop demanding the latest devices to maintain their social profiles.

Shifu
QLD, 1283 posts
6 Sep 2019 8:32PM
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Looking forward to this.

bjw
NSW, 3021 posts
7 Sep 2019 9:39AM
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It's far easier to protest to blame the government than to take action yourself.

decrepit
WA, 9520 posts
7 Sep 2019 9:17AM
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bjw said..
It's far easier to protest to blame the government than to take action yourself.


Very true, but individual efforts have limited effect, Govts can set the agenda to encourage individuals and businesses, to do positive stuff. In Aus the feds are lagging behind business and some states. Some of their polices are discouraging renewables.

Foghorn
WA, 304 posts
7 Sep 2019 10:01AM
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Imax1 said..
I was listening to a science lady on the radio the other day and sadly she said we haven't got much time on earth.
We are an extreamly fast expanding animal. We have already over saturated earth . It won't stop until we kill ourselves .
None of us care enough to make enough change for us to have a chance .
But if your an earth lover , all is not lost . No matter how much we farrrk it up , earth will re grow and not even know we were here . It's got time .
I believe her , I give it 1000 years tops .


I think a total social implosion will happen way before then. Our co2 will be a gift for the continuation of life.

Ian K
WA, 2962 posts
7 Sep 2019 10:09AM
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decrepit said..


bjw said..
It's far easier to protest to blame the government than to take action yourself.




Govts can set the agenda to encourage individuals and businesses, to do positive stuff.


You mean tax them. How many consumers have you seen voluntarily hold back to save the environment? The cars are getting bigger, the houses are getting bigger, the dogs are getting bigger, the overseas holidays are getting more frequent. The Murray Darling is in bad shape yet we still buy t shirts like they're going out of style. Wear them for a couple of hours and throw them in the wash - and drier. It's not the wearing that wears them out.

Foghorn
WA, 304 posts
7 Sep 2019 10:17AM
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Ian K said..


decrepit said..




bjw said..
It's far easier to protest to blame the government than to take action yourself.






Govts can set the agenda to encourage individuals and businesses, to do positive stuff.




You mean tax them. How many consumers have you seen voluntarily hold back to save the environment? The cars are getting bigger, the houses are getting bigger, the dogs are getting bigger, the overseas holidays are getting more frequent. The Murray Darling is in bad shape yet we still buy t shirts like they're going out of style. Wear them for a couple of hours and throw them in the wash - and drier. It's not the wearing that wears them out.



Also wont drink water out of the tap.

Mark _australia
WA, 19559 posts
7 Sep 2019 11:37AM
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Yes how many of them just had to upgrade the phone and tablet to something with a 10% bigger screen?
Or buy everything from Woolies pre-packed in plastic?
Buy bottled water when the stuff in the tap is fine?
The list goes on.

But its fun to go scream and wave banners - that's the main driver.

log man
VIC, 7200 posts
7 Sep 2019 2:35PM
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Mark _australia said..
Yes how many of them just had to upgrade the phone and tablet to something with a 10% bigger screen?
Or buy everything from Woolies pre-packed in plastic?
Buy bottled water when the stuff in the tap is fine?
The list goes on.

But its fun to go scream and wave banners - that's the main driver.


geez you're a grumpy old bastard. Don't you know children are our future? We should teach them and then let them lead the way. We should show them all the beauty they possess inside.

TonyAbbott
257 posts
7 Sep 2019 12:48PM
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log man said..

Mark _australia said..
Yes how many of them just had to upgrade the phone and tablet to something with a 10% bigger screen?
Or buy everything from Woolies pre-packed in plastic?
Buy bottled water when the stuff in the tap is fine?
The list goes on.

But its fun to go scream and wave banners - that's the main driver.



geez you're a grumpy old bastard. Don't you know children are our future? We should teach them and then let them lead the way. We should show them all the beauty they possess inside.


I have a feeling that when you say

"We should teach them"

What you really mean is:

'we should brainwash them young and deny them any free thought or alternative view points'

Mr Milk
NSW, 1650 posts
7 Sep 2019 3:41PM
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Mark _australia said..
Yes how many of them just had to upgrade the phone and tablet to something with a 10% bigger screen?
Or buy everything from Woolies pre-packed in plastic?
Buy bottled water when the stuff in the tap is fine?
The list goes on.

But its fun to go scream and wave banners - that's the main driver.


Can you draw a Venn diagram showing how the groups of hyper consumers and politically engaged kids intersect?

amirite
350 posts
7 Sep 2019 1:56PM
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the bigger the climate lie
the more it will be believed

Kamikuza
QLD, 4312 posts
7 Sep 2019 4:39PM
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Imax1 said..
I was listening to a science lady on the radio the other day and sadly she said we haven't got much time on earth.
We are an extreamly fast expanding animal. We have already over saturated earth . It won't stop until we kill ourselves .
None of us care enough to make enough change for us to have a chance .
But if your an earth lover , all is not lost . No matter how much we farrrk it up , earth will re grow and not even know we were here . It's got time .
I believe her , I give it 1000 years tops .


Death rates are exceeding birth rates in many developed nations.

1,000 years is pretty generous, do you mean days?

Foghorn
WA, 304 posts
7 Sep 2019 3:04PM
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Prince Charles had a doomsday climate countdown which got passed several times .

decrepit
WA, 9520 posts
7 Sep 2019 3:53PM
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It's pretty extreme to wipe out humanity altogether, we're very good at surviving one way or another. But it won't be comfortable.
The end of civilisation as we know it is another thing, there's a lot of vectors all pointing in the same direction.

Scarcity of fresh water, fuel etc, global financial situation, climate change refugees, quarrelling nations. And the list goes on.
Can we all pull together to prevent the worst happening?
I'm afraid I don't see much evidence of that, too many heads in the sand.
Too much false information, spreading fake news.
And I even think there's an element relishing the end times, when all the sinners will get gobbled up and the righteous will be glorified.

warwickl
NSW, 1250 posts
7 Sep 2019 6:02PM
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decrepit said..
It's pretty extreme to wipe out humanity altogether, we're very good at surviving one way or another. But it won't be comfortable.
The end of civilisation as we know it is another thing, there's a lot of vectors all pointing in the same direction.

Scarcity of fresh water, fuel etc, global financial situation, climate change refugees, quarrelling nations. And the list goes on.
Can we all pull together to prevent the worst happening?
I'm afraid I don't see much evidence of that, too many heads in the sand.
Too much false information, spreading fake news.
And I even think there's an element relishing the end times, when all the sinners will get gobbled up and the righteous will be glorified.


The term 'Sinners ' is very subjective especially considering the variety of beliefs.
Humans will survive as the elite will be transported to the moon and Mars.
When all is normalised this group will discover earth and start an elite population .
Dam I need to find something else to do.

Imax1
VIC, 2253 posts
7 Sep 2019 6:59PM
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warwickl said..


decrepit said..
It's pretty extreme to wipe out humanity altogether, we're very good at surviving one way or another. But it won't be comfortable.
The end of civilisation as we know it is another thing, there's a lot of vectors all pointing in the same direction.

Scarcity of fresh water, fuel etc, global financial situation, climate change refugees, quarrelling nations. And the list goes on.
Can we all pull together to prevent the worst happening?
I'm afraid I don't see much evidence of that, too many heads in the sand.
Too much false information, spreading fake news.
And I even think there's an element relishing the end times, when all the sinners will get gobbled up and the righteous will be glorified.




The term 'Sinners ' is very subjective especially considering the variety of beliefs.
Humans will survive as the elite will be transported to the moon and Mars.
When all is normalised this group will discover earth and start an elite population .
Dam I need to find something else to do.



It doesn't make sense to move to mars , it would be sooooooooo much easier to fix earth ,
But we wont.
There is only one solution ..... every second couple have only one child. ( remember there is three generations in one lifetime ).
And then , everyone has to super behave if we have a chance .
Why should I care ? I'm lucky if I got thirty years left .
Unfortunately that's how we all think , we think of ourselves first , even the righteous tree huggers that live Nimbin style need us earth ruining tax paying dollars to survive .
We are all fleas on Earths back.

causehecan
WA, 668 posts
7 Sep 2019 5:56PM
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Just take up paragliding.

All of you.

Every single problem will be solved after your life changeing experience
















By which i mean death

TonyAbbott
257 posts
7 Sep 2019 6:03PM
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Imax1 said..

There is only one solution ..... every second couple have only one child.



Talking about fake news and hyperbole

China tried a one baby policy, it was terrible and did little to reduce China's growing population. This is the reason they scrapped it.

Most western countries are already having less baby's. Some European countries have close to declining populations. All done with free choice.

If it wasn't for mass migration of mass baby breeders, Australia's population would be close to declining.

Mark _australia
WA, 19559 posts
7 Sep 2019 6:09PM
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log man said.. geez you're a grumpy old bastard. Don't you know children are our future? We should teach them and then let them lead the way. We should show them all the beauty they possess inside.



No really,. The consumption of sh!t like plastic, power use, and things that used to last 10-20ys like a TV, washing machine,car etc has gone thru the roof.
Its ironic that the protest is organised so much more easily than before - using social media that nobody really needed. The internet was for academics but its become overly consumerised, driven by a 'look at me' culture, and the protesters avail themselves of it. We're ALL guilty of that. I'm pointing out the irony.
How many of those protesting climate change actually truly minimise their power use?

As to teaching the young folk? YES! Go teach them not to leave 13 devices on standby at home, not to own 10 pairs of shoes, not to get a new phone just cos your plan expired so now its free to get another, protest built-in redundancy (ask for lemon laws), not to let uni architecture teach trends like no eaves and black roofs in the sunburnt country - all sorts.

Its more fun to go and scream at the Govt who must be evil.

Shifu
QLD, 1283 posts
7 Sep 2019 8:45PM
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I don't have a tv, my car is 16 years old, my laptop 13, I have hardly any furniture and what I do have I either made or restored. I have one pair of shoes and three pairs of thongs. My power bill is tiny, I use public transport to get to work. Most importantly, I didn't' Make any children. Nevertheless I am going to fry with everyone else. You fkers screwed up the planet for me with your big cars and your screaming children. Roll on public protest and civil disobedience. I hope they bring the cities to a standstill.

poor relative
WA, 9004 posts
7 Sep 2019 7:06PM
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If we could all just agree...... that would be a good start

Mark _australia
WA, 19559 posts
7 Sep 2019 7:07PM
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^^^ that's awesome

I bet of the highschool students jumping on the bandwagon maybe 1 in 1000 can say that

Of the uni ones, maybe 1 in 100


(My reply was to shifu, PR is a faster typist )

Imax1
VIC, 2253 posts
7 Sep 2019 9:10PM
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TonyAbbott said..

Imax1 said..

There is only one solution ..... every second couple have only one child.




Talking about fake news and hyperbole

China tried a one baby policy, it was terrible and did little to reduce China's growing population. This is the reason they scrapped it.

Most western countries are already having less baby's. Some European countries have close to declining populations. All done with free choice.

If it wasn't for mass migration of mass baby breeders, Australia's population would be close to declining.


One child per two couples would have to work . To implement this would be horrendous . Flip a coin ?
Nute every second female at birth and also after giving birth . This is not sexist , it just won't work the other way around
Its not pretty .
As I said were not prepared for that kind of change .
So we will continue to breed ourselves to death .

Imax1
VIC, 2253 posts
7 Sep 2019 9:15PM
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Shifu said..
I don't have a tv, my car is 16 years old, my laptop 13, I have hardly any furniture and what I do have I either made or restored. I have one pair of shoes and three pairs of thongs. My power bill is tiny, I use public transport to get to work. Most importantly, I didn't' Make any children. Nevertheless I am going to fry with everyone else. You fkers screwed up the planet for me with your big cars and your screaming children. Roll on public protest and civil disobedience. I hope they bring the cities to a standstill.


If people didn't have screaming children , you wouldn't be here .

log man
VIC, 7200 posts
7 Sep 2019 10:35PM
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TonyAbbott said..

log man said..


Mark _australia said..
Yes how many of them just had to upgrade the phone and tablet to something with a 10% bigger screen?
Or buy everything from Woolies pre-packed in plastic?
Buy bottled water when the stuff in the tap is fine?
The list goes on.

But its fun to go scream and wave banners - that's the main driver.




geez you're a grumpy old bastard. Don't you know children are our future? We should teach them and then let them lead the way. We should show them all the beauty they possess inside.



I have a feeling that when you say

"We should teach them"

What you really mean is:

'we should brainwash them young and deny them any free thought or alternative view points'


I dunno mate, I decided long ago to not walk in anyone's shadows, If I fail, if I succeed, at least I'll live as I believe.

busterwa
3688 posts
7 Sep 2019 10:03PM
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taking climate change advice of kids that watch tv and order dinner on an app while waiting for it to be delivered by some numpty on a moped may not be the best thing for the human race either



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