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Moon landing faked proof

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Created by FlySurfer 2 months ago, 13 Dec 2018
Kamikuza
QLD, 3610 posts
14 Jan 2019 10:18PM
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petermac33 said..
Their claims are not science either. Like sending space probes billions of kilometres away - no veritable evidence just claims and shady images.

Science should be verifiable - all their claims of the moon landings are not,not to mention they look completely fake too!


Unlike the Bible, eh. THAT has loads of veritable (er what?) evidence.

But you agree they went billions of kilometers away? Interesting.

You realize to do so requires a precise understanding of the solar system and celestial mechanics, and they did all those calculations based on the heliocentric doctrine?

Meeting distant objects like this is like spinning on the back of a train traveling north from Sydney and swishing a jelly bean into a cup on a train traveling south from Perth. But harder.

There'd be no photos AT ALL (like the ones of Pluto) if they based the calculations on the wrong system...


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rockmagnet said..
I do like the bit about having a concubine, it's not all bad.


Wisest man in the Bible has 300 wives and 700 concubines. Should tell you how smart the Bible characters were. Or weren't, as the case may be.



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Adriano said..
Exodus 21:7 7

"If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do."

Quality stuff.


Yep. I'm looking and I give a good price too.

Don't forget Deuteronomy 22:28-29 -- grab the hottest girl you can find and get it on. Instant wife!

And Judges 19, especially verses 23 - 28 ... send your virginal daughter and your house guests' wife out as rape fodder and when they dump the beaten corpses on your doorstep in the morning, tell them to get their asses up and get your breakfast.

Quality stuff the Bible. I bet the science is of the same standard.

vosadrian
NSW, 244 posts
15 Jan 2019 12:05PM
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petermac33 said..

Biblical writings point clearly to the earth being fixed and unmovable.




Where in the bible are these writings?

To my knowledge, most people believing in the bible do not believe in a flat earth. I've never seen anything in the bible to suggest the earth is flat. Even if it says in the bible the earth is fixed and unmovable (which I have not found), I don;t see how a spherical earth does not achieve this? Surely it is possible to have something fixed, unmovable and spherical?

decrepit
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15 Jan 2019 11:52AM
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vosadrian said.. Where in the bible are these writings?

To my knowledge, most people believing in the bible do not believe in a flat earth. I've never seen anything in the bible to suggest the earth is flat. Even if it says in the bible the earth is fixed and unmovable (which I have not found), I don;t see how a spherical earth does not achieve this? Surely it is possible to have something fixed, unmovable and spherical?



Probably in one belonging to a flat earther, scribbled in the margins

IanR
NSW, 825 posts
15 Jan 2019 5:48PM
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petermac33 said..
You guys are not going to get your answer as I have no proof - suffice to say in the Bible it is mentioned frequently of a great deception on morality. I see this increasingly daily so I'm going with intelligent design / God.


Really Peter
If your going to make statement like this please give a reference to where this is stated
Also include which bible and version you are referring to
There is a edition of the bible that states "thou shall commit adultry"

Adriano
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15 Jan 2019 4:12PM
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vosadrian said..


petermac33 said..

Biblical writings point clearly to the earth being fixed and unmovable.

Where in the bible are these writings?

To my knowledge, most people believing in the bible do not believe in a flat earth. I've never seen anything in the bible to suggest the earth is flat. Even if it says in the bible the earth is fixed and unmovable (which I have not found), I don;t see how a spherical earth does not achieve this? Surely it is possible to have something fixed, unmovable and spherical?

Surely if God is all powerful, he wouldn't be so stupid as to create a flat earth.

Kamikuza
QLD, 3610 posts
15 Jan 2019 8:50PM
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Adriano said..

Surely if God is all powerful, he wouldn't be so stupid as to create a flat earth.


If god is all-powerful, a flat earth is no problem at all

Kamikuza
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15 Jan 2019 8:56PM
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vosadrian said.
Where in the bible are these writings?

To my knowledge, most people believing in the bible do not believe in a flat earth. I've never seen anything in the bible to suggest the earth is flat. Even if it says in the bible the earth is fixed and unmovable (which I have not found), I don;t see how a spherical earth does not achieve this? Surely it is possible to have something fixed, unmovable and spherical?


www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-flat-earth/

vosadrian
NSW, 244 posts
16 Jan 2019 11:04AM
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Interesting.... but I could not see anything about it being flat. There are mentions of it being strong, firm, secure, with foundations. It even mentions the circle of the earth. Nothing about it being flat, and nothing that prevents it being spherical.

As with many things in the bible, context has to be considered. We use many terms common speech that if taken literally are ridiculous: "It is boiling hot today". Terms like "ends of the earth" or "corners of the earth" are probably just terms to refer to everything on the earth. Often these quotes are in Poetic structured parts of the bible, and the author would have written them that way to add to the dramatic nature of his words rather than to be literal.

PM33 seems to present his main evidence for a flat earth as the bible, but I can't see that the bible has anything to say on the subject. I think comments in the bible about the earth are more about how solid and immovable and beyond the ability of man to control it is... yet God can so man should respect him. I don't think the bible even attempts to comment on the geometry of the earth.

evlPanda
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16 Jan 2019 11:23AM
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petermac33 said..
Their claims are not science either. Like sending space probes billions of kilometres away - no veritable evidence just claims and shady images.
Science should be verifiable - all their claims of the moon landings are not,not to mention they look completely fake too!



Moon landings are not "science". They are explorations.

The Polynesians arriving in Tahiti was no more "science" than the moon landings.

You going to a spot nobody has sailed before is also not "science". It's just going somewhere.

Why on earth do you think going somewhere, travel, is a scientific experiment?

petermac33
WA, 4736 posts
16 Jan 2019 6:05PM
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Interesting amateur video footage of the stars.

kingbily
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18 Jan 2019 12:23AM
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FlySurfer said..

And here we see the effects of our two Suns directly from NASA archives..

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The only fact is that the rest of the world is too stupid to get a human anywhere near the moon.


I don't see anything wrong with the perspective of the shadows.

Here - I mocked up a 3D model with an 80 degree view cone with two poles, one 2m high in the foreground and the other 10m high in the background. In the plan, you can see the shadows are parallel, but in the 3D the shadows converge to a vanishing point left of view, just as in the moon shot. The "sun" in my model has an infinite distance, which for this experiment is very close to the physics of the sun's rays on the moon. In fact the sun's rays are so close to parallel on earth and the moon that Eratosthenes was able to calculate the earth's circumference and diameter thousands of years ago using poles.

The photo is totally consistent with physical optics and the principles of perspective.

kingbily
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18 Jan 2019 10:39PM
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Interesting.... but I could not see anything about it being flat. There are mentions of it being strong, firm, secure, with foundations. It even mentions the circle of the earth. Nothing about it being flat, and nothing that prevents it being spherical.
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As with many things in the bible, context has to be considered. We use many terms common speech that if taken literally are ridiculous: "It is boiling hot today". Terms like "ends of the earth" or "corners of the earth" are probably just terms to refer to everything on the earth. Often these quotes are in Poetic structured parts of the bible, and the author would have written them that way to add to the dramatic nature of his words rather than to be literal.

PM33 seems to present his main evidence for a flat earth as the bible, but I can't see that the bible has anything to say on the subject. I think comments in the bible about the earth are more about how solid and immovable and beyond the ability of man to control it is... yet God can so man should respect him. I don't think the bible even attempts to comment on the geometry of the earth.



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