Heavy Handed or Justifed?
Obviously they were apprehending a violent criminal, accused of armed robbery.
The bloke was obviously armed (Knife/Gun) and was resisting.
I am all for the flat foots using force to protect themselves and the public
But was 5 bullets necessary to stop the bloke

only 5?
If the crim was up on drugs like meth or speed you would most likely need that many to just slow him down- let alone stop him.

Police training is to aim for "centre of mass" not fancy hollywood stuff like picking which eye.
Centre shots mean a bigger target for a stressed out officer and therefore less potential misses that might hit a bystander ,the officer on the spot doesnt have the luxury of time to make what we would consider a well balanced or even handed decision. He has to act and act fast. damned if he does- damned if he dont.

Unfortunately- these centre of mass snap shots are not guaranteed to drop a hyped up druggie, or someone full of adrenalin.

A head shot- in the right spot will switch off the motors instantly- dropping the target like the proverbial bag of spuds, but to be that good takes a lot more training and dedication than most police officers will ever be able to get.
There is also a very good chance that a head shot will go through the skull with enough residual force to kill anyone behind. A miss will be even worse as it will have full velocity.

Instead of jumping on the brutal police bandwagon- let the coroner do his bit.

stephen

My guess is the fifth one was needed because the the first four didn't stop the prick.

Who cares , after all he had been a bad bad boy

just look at it like this, if your one of the many law abiding citizens then you have nothing to worry about, but if you break the law dont bitch when you get tasered or shot you obviously did something for the cops to resort to that

Jarryd

maybe he was feelin lucky, punk.

Jradedmondo said...

just look at it like this, if your one of the many law abiding citizens then you have nothing to worry about, but if you break the law dont bitch when you get tasered or shot you obviously did something for the cops to resort to that

Jarryd

Like the brazilian lad who stole a pack of biscuits, got tasered and died.

This guy maybe was running away, but probably only to cause more mayhem. He had already stolen 2 cars at knifepoint, carried out an armed robbery, broken into a house and who knows what else. He had a lengthy police record. I would prefer he was stopped instead of running away and commiting all sorts of offences.

Gunna1 said...

This guy maybe was running away, but probably only to cause more mayhem. He had already stolen 2 cars at knifepoint, carried out an armed robbery, broken into a house and who knows what else. He had a lengthy police record. I would prefer he was stopped instead of running away and commiting all sorts of offences.

sure, every situation has to be assessed and appropriate action taken.

mostly i commend the cops for there job. seen first hand some awesome action taken to stop a bloke in a stolen car. he almost took me out on my pushie. the cops rammed him jumped out with canons drawn as he drove at them and some how didn't fill the bastard with lead. they got him out and appropriatly smashed him. i went to the station and gave them my praise.

what i do have a problem with is tasers being used for very minor issues, when they are not meabt to be.
A taser is to be used in replacement of a gun not an easy way to deal with a drunk.

Carjacking with a weapon,robbery are not mistakes.
They are crimes that you would not like perpetrated
on your loved ones.Drugs are the major cause, but
these crimes are outragious and wrong, far from mistakes.

DunkO said...

boofta said...

Carjacking with a weapon,robbery are not mistakes.
They are crimes that you would not like perpetrated
on your loved ones.Drugs are the major cause, but
these crimes are outragious and wrong, far from mistakes.

you are right, black and white, shoot em all.

yep! no discrimination![}:)]

doggie said...

DunkO said...

Jradedmondo said...

just look at it like this, if your one of the many law abiding citizens then you have nothing to worry about, but if you break the law dont bitch when you get tasered or shot you obviously did something for the cops to resort to that
Jarryd

Like the brazilian lad who stole a pack of biscuits, got tasered and died.

Dont steal and you wont get tazered.

last I read- the young fella wasnt involved in the theft at all

just wrong place- wrong time, much like the young bloke shot in the London underground as they thought he was a terrorist

stephen

BANG BANG BANG BANG,,,,,,,,FREEZE OR I'LL SHOOT.......opppps, I got them around the wrong way at police school too

^^
He was on a bad trip after a couple of day drug bender.. Couldn't be stopped by 6 cops or so the paper said but you know doggie, facts aren't needed in here


Edit

Looks like I was quoted above... Early edition. It was 2 weeks ago, you can read follow up stories as more details are revealed but wasn't really aimed at you anyway.


But Yeah tasers are nasty, I have seen them used and they aren't pretty, the guy probably didn't deserve it either but got 2 full hits to make sure he got the message. He didn't.

Best thing was the cop missed hitting him the first time so had to reload and shoot again, the whole time none of the 4 cops standing around did anything, I guess it took 30 seconds, old mate just kept going so they reloaded and shot him with it. He got up and kept going so they booted him again. He went down, then got up and got in the wagon. Night over. Must say I've seen cops and bouncers punch people one hit out and it much scarier

SP said...

^^
He was on a bad trip after a couple of day drug bender.. Couldn't be stopped by 6 cops or so the paper said but you know doggie, facts aren't needed in here


Edit

Looks like I was quoted above... Early edition. It was 2 weeks ago, you can read follow up stories as more details are revealed.

But Yeah tasers are nasty, I have seen them used and they aren't pretty, the guy probably didn't deserve it either but got 2 full hits to make sure he got the message.

there is a time and place for them,

like the mentally disabled man who was stubbing himself would would of been better off with a taser to back than a bullet. oh well at least he didn't get the opportunity to go and commit more nasty crimes against our loved.

actually saw that last one on australian story and trully believe the police officer just made an accident. the fact the police departmant never actually accept this is what is annoying.