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Created by southace 6 months ago, 18 Apr 2017
southace
QLD, 3427 posts
18 Apr 2017 9:35PM
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finaly I agree it's time for a cull? Mosquitoes kill! AIDS kill! Rabbits kill! Fox kill! Crocs kill! North Korea and Isis kill! Oh no poor shark eating machine let's keep feeding him and breed him up and take everything else from the ocean? Really?

Bara
WA, 205 posts
19 Apr 2017 8:51AM
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It gets even more ironic with the new labor state government here in WA now not sure what to do after carping at any attempts by the then Barnett govt to try and tackle the problem.

Over to you Mcgowan.... cant wait

Razzonater
1417 posts
19 Apr 2017 12:04PM
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I will not comment on this thread other than this... I have banned myself however my opinion is clear from prior discussion.

Too soon

Poida
WA, 1635 posts
20 Apr 2017 6:13PM
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Federal Environment Minister quote
"..... there are great white sharks in the water........."

yes we know that

myusernam
QLD, 4327 posts
21 Apr 2017 6:42AM
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i think that the great whites might be more prevalent sue to greater numbers of whales etc.
watersports/ surfing etc all grew in a time when there were low whale numbers. now they are back to normal and we have lots of sharks. If we expect to be able to continue the way we have we are going to have to cull the gws in WA and SA. I daresay there will be a decline in tourism and watersports if we do nothing. I live in a non GWS are and spend heaps of time in the water. I do a lot of speqarfishing and am not overly afraid of sharks. But i;; be fxcked if i get in the water anywhere there could be a great white, even just swimming. Ditto with large crocs near high pop areas on the east coast.

Underoath
QLD, 2230 posts
21 Apr 2017 10:15AM
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I sit on the fence on this one. I'm not pro killing or against it.

If the increase in GW's is a global issue, is killing a few along the WA/NSW coastline going to have any impact in the bigger picture?

Vince68
WA, 544 posts
21 Apr 2017 8:43AM
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southace said..
finaly I agree it's time for a cull? Mosquitoes kill! AIDS kill! Rabbits kill! Fox kill! Crocs kill! North Korea and Isis kill! Oh no poor shark eating machine let's keep feeding him and breed him up and take everything else from the ocean? Really?


you forgot to mention that drunk drivers kill, psychos kill, drug pushers kill

Toph
WA, 1133 posts
21 Apr 2017 10:01AM
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^^^ Yeah sure. But there are policies and procedures put in place to deal with these issues.
The new WA Governments policy and procedures on shark mitigation is ...Zero.

rod_bunny
WA, 783 posts
21 Apr 2017 11:48AM
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Vince68 said..

southace said..
finaly I agree it's time for a cull? Mosquitoes kill! AIDS kill! Rabbits kill! Fox kill! Crocs kill! North Korea and Isis kill! Oh no poor shark eating machine let's keep feeding him and breed him up and take everything else from the ocean? Really?



you forgot to mention that drunk drivers kill, psychos kill, drug pushers kill


Quite happy for a cull on those listed... what's your point?

Vince68
WA, 544 posts
21 Apr 2017 2:03PM
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Vince68 said..


southace said..
finaly I agree it's time for a cull? Mosquitoes kill! AIDS kill! Rabbits kill! Fox kill! Crocs kill! North Korea and Isis kill! Oh no poor shark eating machine let's keep feeding him and breed him up and take everything else from the ocean? Really?




you forgot to mention that drunk drivers kill, psychos kill, drug pushers kill



Quite happy for a cull on those listed... what's your point?


Point is there is not enough done on the garbage on the mainland. The ratio of shark attacks to other crap is much lower. I guess they go for easy options hey!

southace
QLD, 3427 posts
21 Apr 2017 7:43PM
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Point is the big bruce and britney sharks have grown up since the protection laws came out and now they are big and breeding and grabbing what they can for a feast to maintain there evolution!

HENDO 77
WA, 166 posts
21 Apr 2017 6:12PM
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Its coming , that's for sure . Question is how many more will be taken before action starts.
Personally I don't think a cull is the answer, I believe commercial fishing sorted things before , bring it back.

ThinkaBowtit
WA, 1067 posts
21 Apr 2017 6:26PM
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^^ Which is another term for culling. There were a lot less attacks and fatalities when it was still ok to take a shark, because there were a lot less sharks. Der...

southace
QLD, 3427 posts
21 Apr 2017 8:33PM
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There was a hippy dude on abc 24 expressing his views on tv over the past week wish I could find the link. He suggested it should be called fishing and expressed that younger GWS are actually eatable and can be used for many health benefits. My thoughts cull the over 3 meter sharks and give water users a 10 year break.thats how it's been in the past 20 year cycle!

southace
QLD, 3427 posts
21 Apr 2017 8:33PM
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There was a hippy dude on abc 24 expressing his views on tv over the past week wish I could find the link. He suggested it should be called fishing and expressed that younger GWS are actually eatable and can be used for many health benefits. My thoughts cull the over 3 meter sharks and give water users a 10 year break.thats how it's been in the past 20 year cycle!

Cobra
6740 posts
21 Apr 2017 8:50PM
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Why the backflip Southace?
12 months ago shark lover now ?
Im not attacking you just interested why the flip flop.

thomas11
VIC, 160 posts
22 Apr 2017 7:39AM
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Bloody do gooder Greenies. Just don't go in the water, you know they live there, thats the sharks home.
Bloody inner city greenies who's only exercise is the 200m ride on their fixie down to their local trendy coffee shop for their deconstructed soy latte, sitting their making FB page after FB page to protest the next trendy thing to be offended by.
The only surf they will ever see is from the bar at the Kelly Slater wave pool while the sip their locally made boutique IPA.

Id like to see what happened if a brown snake wondered into one of these greenies backyard and bit their 17 year old daughter and she died. In theory your backyard is just the snakes land also, so don't go in their land and don't ever leave your house.

Cull them under the "commercial fishing" mumbo jumbo, I'm sure we could easily sell them to China or Japan.
Great White shark fin soup anyone?

People make a great point about the tourism. At this point I would not travel to WA or SA and surf, so so highly unlikely I know, but Im just not doing it. Humans have evolved superior intelligence to be able to protect themselves and therefore we are top of the food chain, hell no do we want people been eaten by less superior animals.
To me these hippies are valuing sharks lives above humans.

If i kill someone I go to jail for life, I may swell be dead, id probably prefer to be dead than in jail forever.
Maybe we can build big pools and put the sharks who kill people in those, make them swim around and think about what they have done.

djt91184
QLD, 1025 posts
22 Apr 2017 8:50AM
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Personally I dont like their attitude

southace
QLD, 3427 posts
23 Apr 2017 4:50PM
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Cobra said..
Why the backflip Southace?
12 months ago shark lover now ?
Im not attacking you just interested why the flip flop.



Because we are superior beings. We must protect our species at all costs and sacrifices . The planet will not survive without us! Amen

Richoa
NSW, 198 posts
23 Apr 2017 5:13PM
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Sharks make great takeaway fish n chips. Kill m and reduce the cost of take away. Win win

Stuthepirate
WA, 3085 posts
23 Apr 2017 5:41PM
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Maybe if we put it in the papers that the Great Whites are backing the USA then Kim Jong Un will nuke them.
Problem solved

Pitbull
WA, 1219 posts
23 Apr 2017 8:48PM
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Enter at own risk!

milani
3 posts
24 Apr 2017 11:20AM
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Sharks are not the killing machine that Hollywood makes us to believe. There are over 500 known species of shark and among those only 3 are known to be dangerous - the bull shark, tiger shark, and the great white shark. Humans are not their natural prey they only attack humans when they feel that their habitat is being threatened.

evlPanda
NSW, 8071 posts
24 Apr 2017 1:54PM
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^ ...Bronze Whaler, Mako.

"It's the sharks' home."


Yeah. Nah. Not anymore.

Bara
WA, 205 posts
24 Apr 2017 12:40PM
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^ ...Bronze Whaler, Mako.

"It's the sharks' home."


Yeah. Nah. Not anymore.

From below i imagine this would look alot like a seal colony....

Shame Mcgowan has finally broken his silence on this issue to announce his policy = do nothing. Its a personal responsibility thing apparently.


OK fine time to tale personal responsibility. Deterrents shown to be ineffective against great whites in attack mode so they are out.

Whos for a fish then? We could become the home of the worlds first vigilante fishers.

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1967 posts
24 Apr 2017 1:15PM
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You have any info to what study found the deterrents ineffective to a great white in attack mode?

I personally think this this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Since 2000 there is less than 1 fatality a year in WA. I don't see this apparent incredible danger.

southace
QLD, 3427 posts
24 Apr 2017 3:23PM
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milani said..
Sharks are not the killing machine that Hollywood makes us to believe. There are over 500 known species of shark and among those only 3 are known to be dangerous - the bull shark, tiger shark, and the great white shark. Humans are not their natural prey they only attack humans when they feel that their habitat is being threatened.



No they don't attack because they feel threatened that is false information!
They attack anything that splashes around in the water that's how they hunt.
They do attack humans and eat them. It's also false information to say they don't like to eat humans!
They are somewhat preastoric like crocodiles and dinosaurs small brains trapped in large body's!

Bara
WA, 205 posts
24 Apr 2017 3:11PM
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You have any info to what study found the deterrents ineffective to a great white in attack mode?

I personally think this this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Since 2000 there is less than 1 fatality a year in WA. I don't see this apparent incredible danger.


i cant recall the link but it was for the sharkshield version (supposedly the best option) and reviewed several studies in south africa and south australia by UWA. I think it was referenced in an earlier thread on sharks here if you search it. The south australia study was labelled "inconclusive" but the scary thing for me was in 30% of cases it appeared turning the thing on actually provoked an attack in some large (4m plus) females!

No i dont think its an overdone risk if you are a regular surfer in either the south west or south coast. Think about it - maybe we are talking a regular population of "risk takers" of say 20,000 people (being pretty generous here to include people coming down from Perth) with an average of 2 fatalities per year more recently thats a 1 in 10,000 chance you will eventually die from shark attack in WA. Far higher than the risk from car crash where we spend 100s of millions trying to make people safe so $200,000 on unproven deterrents is a real cop out by McGowan IMHO

myusernam
QLD, 4327 posts
24 Apr 2017 5:45PM
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Bara said..

Dawn Patrol said..
You have any info to what study found the deterrents ineffective to a great white in attack mode?

I personally think this this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Since 2000 there is less than 1 fatality a year in WA. I don't see this apparent incredible danger.



i cant recall the link but it was for the sharkshield version (supposedly the best option) and reviewed several studies in south africa and south australia by UWA. I think it was referenced in an earlier thread on sharks here if you search it. The south australia study was labelled "inconclusive" but the scary thing for me was in 30% of cases it appeared turning the thing on actually provoked an attack in some large (4m plus) females!

No i dont think its an overdone risk if you are a regular surfer in either the south west or south coast. Think about it - maybe we are talking a regular population of "risk takers" of say 20,000 people (being pretty generous here to include people coming down from Perth) with an average of 2 fatalities per year more recently thats a 1 in 10,000 chance you will eventually die from shark attack in WA. Far higher than the risk from car crash where we spend 100s of millions trying to make people safe so $200,000 on unproven deterrents is a real cop out by McGowan IMHO


peter clarkson was devoured by two GWS in full view of his decky. He was an advocate of the sharkshield with testamonials on the ss website and was wearing it at the time of his death.
www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2011/02/18/3142851.htm

SandS
VIC, 4935 posts
24 Apr 2017 6:55PM
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southace said..

Cobra said..
Why the backflip Southace?
12 months ago shark lover now ?
Im not attacking you just interested why the flip flop.




Because we are superior beings. We must protect our species at all costs and sacrifices . The planet will not survive without us! Amen


have you had a scare while diving on your yacht to clean to prop or something SA ?

southace
QLD, 3427 posts
24 Apr 2017 7:18PM
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SandS said..

southace said..


Cobra said..
Why the backflip Southace?
12 months ago shark lover now ?
Im not attacking you just interested why the flip flop.





Because we are superior beings. We must protect our species at all costs and sacrifices . The planet will not survive without us! Amen



have you had a scare while diving on your yacht to clean to prop or something SA ?


Not at all I get a Abb diver to do my yacht in southern waters!



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