There's a 463,000,000,000km cloud of alcohol...

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evlPanda
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5 Apr 2014 6:48pm
...only 10,000 light years away.

How do we get there?



phys.org/news/2006-04-astronomers-alcohol-cloud-spanning-billion.html
Dezman
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5 Apr 2014 7:52pm
By going on a Space crawl ...
theDoctor
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5 Apr 2014 8:05pm

What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export
myusernam
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5 Apr 2014 8:58pm
theDoctor said...

What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export

Best beer ever
stamp
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5 Apr 2014 9:26pm
theDoctor said..


What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export


then it's not far away enough...
stamp
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5 Apr 2014 9:28pm
myusernam said..

theDoctor said...

What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export

Best beer ever


i'm pretty sure it's made by fermenting roadkill emus- that's where the name comes from
Cassa
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5 Apr 2014 9:24pm
myusernam said..

theDoctor said...

What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export

Best beer ever


Mark _australia
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5 Apr 2014 10:08pm
Just wonderng if light bends (diffraction) and also has a spectrum change (red shift) over that massive distance, and also they reckon gravity does too, maybe even time!!! -- how the **** do they know a blob of something is methanol?

I challenge them to tell the difference between ethanol and methanol over 100km.
pweedas
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5 Apr 2014 11:51pm
Ten to one it's just a really big beer fart from some giant intergalactic space trash being, making his way back home after a drunken binge in a nearby galaxy. I guess he dumped it out a porthole or something. No point in being cooped up in a spaceship with something like that.
Either that or his mates threw him out of the ship while he was still dumping it.
patsken
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6 Apr 2014 12:10am
stamp said..

myusernam said..

theDoctor said...

What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export

Best beer ever


i'm pretty sure it's made by fermenting roadkill emus- that's where the name comes from


There is a reason it's called EXPORT....

Aussies don't want it !!
Darkspi
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6 Apr 2014 9:14pm
growning up with emu export was awsome but emu black was the best fracking beer ever! or was it swan black I remember swan gold do they still have it ??

Stuthepirate
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6 Apr 2014 9:26pm
^^^
Bondy's beer





Pitbull
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6 Apr 2014 8:32pm
I'll just have a carton thanks.
evlPanda
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7 Apr 2014 10:13am
Mark _australia said..

Just wonderng if light bends (diffraction) and also has a spectrum change (red shift) over that massive distance, and also they reckon gravity does too, maybe even time!!! -- how the **** do they know a blob of something is methanol?

I challenge them to tell the difference between ethanol and methanol over 100km.



Nobel prize challenger right here folks.
NotWal
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7 Apr 2014 12:43pm
Mark _australia said..

Just wonderng if light bends (diffraction) and also has a spectrum change (red shift) over that massive distance, and also they reckon gravity does too, maybe even time!!! -- how the **** do they know a blob of something is methanol?

I challenge them to tell the difference between ethanol and methanol over 100km.


Their spectral absorption profiles are different.
nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/jres/048/jresv48n4p281_A1b.pdf
Mark _australia
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7 Apr 2014 2:15pm
^^ Yes indeed they are.

So let's think about anything that analyses a spectrum, say a GC mass spectrometer in a lab. The tiniest bit of crap in there will ruin the results.
Or the level of cleanliness required of all kinds of measuring equipment with vacuums or dry gas purged environments blah blah cos even water vapour will skew results.

If you believe that in 10K light years - an unimaginable distance full of dust n gasses etc - that there is no interference then you have a lot of faith.

You can't extrapolate or calculate for such errors as you can only do that if somebody has been to the site (ie so we know what is there and then the readings from here so we KNOW what the error is.
Bit like if I say an object at about 1km away is 20m high and we have no frame of reference. You would not believe me and rightly so.

Faith.
Chris6791
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7 Apr 2014 2:51pm
^^^ I've no idea what you are talking about but surely with all their observations they would have a baseline level of interference they can factor in?
FlySurfer
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7 Apr 2014 4:52pm
The Police are already making plans for an RBT out there.

... this is as far as they've got...
Chris6791
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7 Apr 2014 3:01pm
Yeah it didn't pass the first OSH inspection, working alone in remote areas...
Dezman
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7 Apr 2014 6:37pm
^^^ hope the speed camera allows for red shifting...
NotWal
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7 Apr 2014 8:01pm
Mark _australia said..

^^ Yes indeed they are.

So let's think about anything that analyses a spectrum, say a GC mass spectrometer in a lab. The tiniest bit of crap in there will ruin the results.
Or the level of cleanliness required of all kinds of measuring equipment with vacuums or dry gas purged environments blah blah cos even water vapour will skew results.

If you believe that in 10K light years - an unimaginable distance full of dust n gasses etc - that there is no interference then you have a lot of faith.

You can't extrapolate or calculate for such errors as you can only do that if somebody has been to the site (ie so we know what is there and then the readings from here so we KNOW what the error is.
Bit like if I say an object at about 1km away is 20m high and we have no frame of reference. You would not believe me and rightly so.

Faith.


Well yes. I'm no expert but the scientific community displays utter confidence in spectrum analysis. They've been doing it for yonks. They know the problems etc and science is self correcting so I believe they know what they are doing and the probability that they are wrong when they make a strong assertion based on well established techniques is vanishingly small. It's not just alcohol that they have discovered. There are many organic molecules out there.

You can call it "faith". It would be churlish of me to assume you are attempting to disparage reasonable confidence by conflating it with religious "faith" so I will just assume you're not :)
Mark _australia
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8 Apr 2014 9:50am
^^^ oh no, be churlish

You know I was doing just that
da vecta
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8 Apr 2014 6:08pm
Do you think NASA will name in Boonie-nova?
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