WHY cant they build commercial buildings where the roof doesnt leak?

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myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6160 posts
QLD, 6160 posts
5 Jul 2022 12:10pm
walking through a hospital today and there's a corridor in the hospital (only a few years old) with buckets and towels out because it's raining.
Same with just about every bunnings everytime it rains. It seems to be large roofs are heaps harder to seal than house roofs?
How hard can it be FFS. Theres all these super well designed and engineered buildings but they cant seal the roof? Makes you wonder how reliable the other parts of the engineering in the structure are
Revhead
Revhead
ACT
372 posts
ACT, 372 posts
5 Jul 2022 12:24pm
Probs because no one does their job properly anymore. No pride in their work, no phucks given.
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
5 Jul 2022 12:36pm
Because Architects come up with weird and wonderful(?) designs without any consideration on how difficult its going to be to make water tight.
elmo
elmo
WA
8898 posts
WA, 8898 posts
5 Jul 2022 10:58am
I may be mistooken but it may have something to do with commercial roofs being flatter than residential.

Inclined roof the water runs of quicker whereas a flat roof the water can pool more allowing it to wick through overlaps and loose screws.

That said I've just had weeks of fun tracking down a leak on my tin roof.

But then again I may be in the wrong forest rather than barking up the wrong tree.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15111 posts
WA, 15111 posts
5 Jul 2022 12:15pm
elmo said..
I may be mistooken but it may have something to do with commercial roofs being flatter than residential.

Inclined roof the water runs of quicker whereas a flat roof the water can pool more allowing it to wick through overlaps and loose screws.

That said I've just had weeks of fun tracking down a leak on my tin roof.

But then again I may be in the wrong forest rather than barking up the wrong tree.


Makes you wonder. I remember seeing all these old factories where the rooves were made up of small angled sections, like a saw tooth type of thing. Now they seem to prefer to do it in single spans, so I wonder if this was one of the design considerations, or just a limitation of materials of the time?
woko
woko
NSW
1802 posts
NSW, 1802 posts
5 Jul 2022 5:29pm
I think the old way was definitely due to materials. All those truncated valleys would leak like sieves but folk lived a lot closer to nature then
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12889 posts
WA, 12889 posts
5 Jul 2022 4:05pm
Box gutters, horrible things. No fall, smallest pin hole will be like Niagra. Yes and or flat roofs, not enough overlap in the joins. All sorts of things, water is a bugger, it's amazing how it can leak with no sign of where or how it's happening.
Macroscien
Macroscien
QLD
6809 posts
QLD, 6809 posts
5 Jul 2022 7:41pm
Possibly Kiwi made the roof.
I know that almost all new buildings in NZ suffer from leaky syndrome .
That including my own commercial that is set for demolishing and rebuild due to this leak problem;
kk
kk
WA
953 posts
kk kk
WA, 953 posts
5 Jul 2022 7:31pm
Box gutters, or un-insulated box gutters that don't leak but get condensation on them. Also lack of cleaning or poor design.

Low pitch roofs withy long runs, and every Tom Dick and Harry running around up there sevicing something

And Massive penetrations all over the place.

Add to that people that dont give fart, plus the people that have no clue but still cut holes in roof.

If you had a roof with no penetrations for vents, aircon, plumbing, elctrical, personel access, exuast fans....

You probably wouldn't have any leaks.

My rant is a reflection of my life trying to prevent exactly these problems
ok
ok
NSW
1089 posts
ok ok
NSW, 1089 posts
5 Jul 2022 11:32pm
One word MAINTENANCE !

The gutter's or drainage will be blocked or slightly blocked somewhere.

It's this lack of maintenance that keeps me employed
psychojoe
psychojoe
WA
2241 posts
WA, 2241 posts
6 Jul 2022 5:34am
Macroscien said..
Possibly Kiwi made the roof.
I know that almost all new buildings in NZ suffer from leaky syndrome .
That including my own commercial that is set for demolishing and rebuild due to this leak problem;


Why would a kiwi spend four years learning a trade below the poverty line when they can skate through a defence force apprenticeship at full wage getting a very narrow breadth of experience.
BlueMoon
BlueMoon
867 posts
867 posts
6 Jul 2022 7:24am
Sumps in box gutters.
So called Tradies not knowing how to install them properly, and not being able to, or just dont care to think about potential problems of doing a certain task a certain way.
If designed well, and installed well box gutters can solve a lot of roof drainage problems, but because the two rarely happen together, they are a recipe for disaster.
Harrow
Harrow
NSW
4521 posts
NSW, 4521 posts
6 Jul 2022 9:44am
Just comes down to half the population being clueless, and the other half not giving a rat's. Then again, it's probably 3/4 of the population for each with a huge overlap having both.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23743 posts
WA, 23743 posts
6 Jul 2022 9:55am
Its also the hospital being built by the lowest bidder in the fastest time, due to the mistaken belief that it may get one re-elected....


Subsonic
Subsonic
WA
3428 posts
WA, 3428 posts
6 Jul 2022 1:01pm
Its bad enough with a low pitch tiled roof on a house, let alone a comparatively massive roof. If it rains hard enough, any gaps/things that aren't quite right start to leak.
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