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jord070
jord070
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28 Apr 2007 11:12pm
im currently in year 11 doing tee, and am hoping to get an apprenticeship after year 12 possibly in the oil/mining industry, but it is going to be a trade, and thats what im determined to do,. only trouble is im not to sure what im going to actually do or how i should go about it, any help would be much appreciated, i just thought thAT windsurfers and kite surfers must have a couple of old apprentices or apprentices in the whole community,
mineral1
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28 Apr 2007 11:24pm
Jord, some of my heavy duty mechanics (plant mechanics) earning 130k a year on a 2 x 1 roster. There are better rosters, 9 x 5, 8 x 6 (days) and so on.
Start watching the weekend papers, particularly Saturday add section. Big Companies start adverts just after June.
You can start off just ring around if need be to get the jump. Check with your Uncle he will have some good contacts for you. If you have the smarts, go high voltage electrical. Stick with electrical big industry, try not to go general house, as in this State, mining gives more scope.
You will need good marks both English and maths, not tops, but good.
You need any other data, PM me and I will try to help out.
Mineral
Blaster
Blaster
WA
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28 Apr 2007 11:41pm
Hi Jord,

IMHO look at a dual trade in electrical/instrument fitting. Industry has become very automated taking over the manual side of many tasks, Meaning the tradesman will always be required for installing and maintaining equipment. Also, with this trade you have the best of both worlds to choose from. For example you can change to domestic sparky if the industrial side of things isn't your thing. That way your the boss and you can knock off work anytime to go kiting. ]

Anyhow you have the right attitude, the fact you posted this means your a go getter instead of a wait for it to come to you guy. Remember you spend a lot of hours at work. So try find something that you know you will enjoy, or life will become miserable for a large portion of your time on this planet.
jord070
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28 Apr 2007 11:53pm
i think i will be looking at the industrial side of things, and ever since i was 3 i have been pulling apart ** and trying to fix it, and only resently i have been actually doing more good than worse, and blaster dont you meen windsuring not kiting[:p, but i hadnt thought of the papers so i may go have a look at the west now just see if there is actually anything listed. and luckely i have alot of family friends with woodside who are fairly high up so lets hope they can put a good word in for me and my uncle hopfully knows a few contacts
KEARNSY
KEARNSY
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29 Apr 2007 1:36am
Jord, Im a Mechanical Fitter Machinist! I love my trade and it can offer alot of variety. Lotsa$$$ to be earned too as in all trades at the moment. The first step is to decide exactly what you want to do then go and pick up a pre- voc certificate at tafe if ur really keen. Its the equivilent to ur 1st year of ur apprentaship and you still get 6months off ur sentence as an apprentice. It also makes it alot easier to be employed as you will already have the basic skills. Anyway if ur interested in more p.m. me! Best of luck mate and verry wise choice on getting a trade- Kearnsy
jord070
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29 Apr 2007 11:07am
sent a pm ro you kearnsy and blaster what company are you with??
Blaster
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29 Apr 2007 2:07pm
Hey Jord,

I'm employed by alcoa I did my trade with them in mechanical fitting, I hated it. I switched over to process operations a year out of my trade, which opened up opportunities for me that would not have presented if I'd stayed in the trade. I'm heavily involved now with training and assessing workers, but hey different courses for different horses, it comes down to individual preference

Kearnsy is right, there's money to be made in industry within WA. Good if that's important to you. But that goes for all trades not just fitters. The other point about the pre-voc cert, when I did mine it was called a pre-apprenticeship conducted through TAFE. That got me my apprenticeship, as my school grades weren't good. Still had to do 4 years though.

I would suggest you go and do work experience with a company that will provide you with the opportunity to spend equal time finding out what is involved with all the mainstream trades. That way you won't commit to something without knowing what to expect.

Oh and sorry about the kiting comment. I to use to windsurf as well from the age of 13. Where I live it's more practical to kite, I'm actually getting more enjoyment out of it than windsurfing at the moment. Again Courses for Horses.

Good luck, wish I could help more
Pittsy
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29 Apr 2007 10:08pm
Hey Jord,

This Kind of off the topic but if you know any one in the trade that you want to do go and ask them about some work experience with them and if you can't fit it in with your school Work experience. Do it through one of your holidays. That is what i have just done I have just come back from a week on a farm I did this for a school project but since I was a young lad I have always wanted to be a farmer I may only be in year 9 but I have started my work experience in a way. From this experience I have lernt many new skills invoved in farming. I wish you good luck through year 11 and 12 and mate follow your dream.

Cheers Pittsy
monstagerage
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30 Apr 2007 12:25am
Hi Im not sure if there is this type of work up there but I hear that Under water dive welding pays good bucks and a hydrollic tech or maintenance fitting as pre mentioned, but what I do know is, I don't suggest Spray painting.
Greenroom
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29 Apr 2007 10:49pm
Jords, why are you doing year 11 and 12? start looking now and if the opportunity arises go for it. I did year 11 and 12 and wasted my time doing it thinking I was gonna be an artist. If I could go back to year 10 I would have started my apprenticeship then. I had mates who dropped out in year 10 to do trades and now own houses. I on the other hand started my electrical apprenticeship when I was 23 while married and bringing up a young family. Its the best thing I have ever done. Ive worked NW with Woodside. Ive worked on most of the big jobs in the city and Im telling you there is so much money to be made out there its ridiculous. A 3rd year apprentice working with me now is taking home $1400 a week. Not trying to boast (HELL YEAH!) but I worked over the Easter break on $100 an hour just to give you an example and thats on wages! Good luck. If you want some contact numbers PM me and I will round some up
jord070
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29 Apr 2007 10:59pm
green room what kind of electiction coarce did you do,?? and was it up north in karratha?
Greenroom
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29 Apr 2007 11:04pm
I didnt do any courses. Did a 4 year apprenticeship.
Yes it was Karratha. But out on the Burrup. At least 10 years worth of work up there. Big companies have leased out homes in Karratha for 10 years so thats gotta say something? The job I was on had 200 sparkies on it!
jord070
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29 Apr 2007 11:18pm
yeh i grew up in karratha upto when i was 13, do you know my dad Richard Crawford, he did some work out on the burrup and lived their for 20 years i think, so was your apprentice ship named any thing certain or just electrition?
MintoxGT
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30 Apr 2007 1:50pm
Hey Jords,

I totaly agree with all the guys for exactly the same reasons, you dont need marks you need enthusiasum, start looking now for any of the fore mentioned jobs / apprenterships, If I had my way again I would have left school at year 10, if you are doing ok in maths thats all that realy matters, being able to work by yourself and problem solve is like gold.

I agree with the electrical choice as well but realy all you need to do is get some kind of idea of what you want then go and have a look, by the looks there are lots of knowledgable guys here and they appear to be in good positions within their respective feilds. Listen to the many Yodas young grasshopper :)

Me, Im a Logistics Operations Supervisor, I run a warhouse and wish I did what the guys are telling you to do now.

Good luck.

Cheers GT
jord070
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30 Apr 2007 3:50pm
im going to finish year 12 because alot of the new aprenticeships need year 12 to finish it, but im looking into the electical side of things
MintoxGT
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30 Apr 2007 3:54pm
Good on ya Jordy,

At least you have a plan, the rest will follow.

Cheers GT
junior freestyle
junior freestyle
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30 Apr 2007 6:40pm
naa man u dont need year 12 i finished year 11 and left there is just nothin there its a big waste of time i rekon u should do year 11 but because u work with sin curves and **** dont do much of that in year 10. i am a 1st year apprentice electrician great job only u have alot less time to go windsurfing only on the weekends now.

talk to ur parent do wateva makes them happy cause they are gonna help u out heaps in the next 3 years (not alot of money in an apprenticeship)

Jesse
jord070
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30 Apr 2007 7:57pm
what i have been thinking today is to actually finish year 11 and start year 12, but start applying for apprenticeships early or during the chrissy holidays and if i get offered one i would drop out do what ever i needed to do at tafe and such and take it from there,
mineral1
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30 Apr 2007 8:02pm
jord070, don't wait until Christmas, get in with your application when the adds start hitting the news papers. By Christmas, its all over bar the shouting, and places have been finalised.
Reckon your in the box seat, we need young guns out there and there isn't that many to go all the way around to give us ol mungrels time off to go windsurfing. We need somebody to take the overtime heat out

Mineral
jord070
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30 Apr 2007 10:24pm
im not to sure if i should be aplying this year tho because i have a late b-day 17 oct so im in the last couple months of the year so im ot to sure, but i have made my mine of on doing an elctrical trade of some sorts weather it be fitting or wot ever im not to sure about mechanical sid of things nd my dad seems to think its the rong pathway for me
monstagerage
monstagerage
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1 May 2007 3:29am
Jord070,
i did 11/12 then got 4 yr apprenticeship also and thought the same as greenroom though after my accident I cant return to my manual work and now I have to change type of work, I am now looking at Real Estate and my vce cirtificate has come into play. Also what I learnt In personal development in dealing with the real world stopped me from making mistakes and having the hard times had by our friends who left early. Having said that Linsay fox left at yr 9
Blaster
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1 May 2007 2:23am
Jord, here goes now listen.

You are well ahead of all the others your age just in your thoughts alone.

OK you have an idea now what you want right, everyone has told you the different ways of going about it. Good TEE results won't get you a trade. Finish this year, maximise the work experience program through your school. If someone likes what they see you may land a job just from that(highly unlikely, But never know).

Apply for all jobs in the paper which start around October-September ready for the January intake of apprentices. Still no luck, don't worry instead of year 12 use that year to go to TAFE and do a pre-apprenticeship.

I will guarantee you'll land a job when you finally get the opportunity to show a potential employer what lengths you have gone to. Plus you will cruise through your trade with confidence as you will already have the the basic skills and work place enviroment awareness. Safety is a major concern for companies these days, you will be more in touch with the hazards than some punk just out of year 12.

This was the process I took. I've never struggled from not going to year 12, I have friends that went all the way through to uni (still paying it off) and earn half my wage and still unhappy with their work.

Good luck mate, try get with a big company. It can be dangerous work and they take safety policies more serious

Greenroom
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1 May 2007 12:13pm
quote:
Originally posted by Blaster

Jord, here goes now listen.

You are well ahead of all the others your age just in your thoughts alone.
Good TEE results won't get you a trade.
This was the process I took. I've never struggled from not going to year 12, I have friends that went all the way through to uni (still paying it off) and earn half my wage and still unhappy with their work.
Good luck mate, try get with a big company. It can be dangerous work and they take safety policies more serious




Nicely said
monstagerage
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1 May 2007 5:43pm
here here
jord070
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2 May 2007 7:12pm
well i have been speeking to some of the guys from wood side, and i need to have tee passes in maths science and English to get an apprentice ship. i also talked to a few of the apprentices who go out on the cossack and they all did tee so i am goin to finish year 12 with tee and apply next year for wood side, and to make it safe also apply for a pre apprenticeship coarse AT TAFE

jordan
Greenroom
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2 May 2007 8:25pm
Good on ya Jords
nebbian
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2 May 2007 8:43pm
Onya Jords,

I got a cadetship which meant that my employer paid for me to go to uni while I did my electrician's trade. Some of the maths in the electricians course was pretty damn tricky, if I hadn't done year 12 I'd have been completely stuck.

It's only one more year, but the knowledge stays with you for the rest of your life (even if that knowledge only involves how to win when playing 500 )
Greenroom
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2 May 2007 8:46pm
There seems to be alot of sparkies on this forum?
Who are electricians here?
digital
digital
WA
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3 May 2007 1:17am
not me , i`m a busted arse boilermaker and highly recommend people NOT to do this trade or anything that involves manual labour .

stay at school jordo , leave when your a engineer of some sorts , heaps better on your body in the long run .
mineral1
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6 May 2007 1:34pm
Jord, just in case you missed it, Detroit ran add for apprenticeship yesterday in paper.
But if you can go electrical, go that way, I know how small the pool is out there, trying to get people for my power generation package team
Mineral
jord070
jord070
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6 May 2007 1:44pm
yeh i saw that, me and my daad are going to sit down and have a talk about the options out thier, but yeh im going to get into the electrical side of things, even if it takes a couple of years
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